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Help!! .thinking of opening an indoor play centre and I crackers or what?!!!

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mummy2go · 22/08/2008 20:41

Hi

The astronomical start up costs haven't put me off which means I must be crazy as I have no money! LOL

Does anyone visit soft play/indoor adventure play venues on a regular basis and if so what do you like to see and what don't you like to see? (also what do your kids like to see)

What would make you go to one over going to say a Wacky Warehouse?

How improtant do you feel any educational benefits are of these facilities?
what do your Dh's like?..
What about Food?

And would you use one located in your loacl town centre with a drop and shop facility?( i know sounds terrible)

It would be in the Redditch/Solihull area.

Thanks Ladies your all super stars!!!

OP posts:
mummy2go · 23/08/2008 19:48

Thanks everyone! totally agree with everything you have said and lots I hadn't thought about which is great

Fanny street!??! - LOL

Thanks for all the Good Luck messages!

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llareggub · 23/08/2008 20:41

You will come back and let us know when you've opened, won't you? I'll come and try it out and post a review!

The one thing I hate about our local soft play is the horrid, loud crap music. I went to a great playbarn today at Stratford Armories. It was clean, light, airy with great, healthy food. To be honest the food looked so good, and was served by chefs in whites, that we may even take a trip there just for the food.

The sensory stuff and Banbury is great. Put in the right facilities, keep it clean and people will travel far to you. I avoid the two local places, including a Wacky Warehouse half a mile away, to drive 8 miles to Stratford.

twinklytoes · 23/08/2008 22:16

llareggub - are you talking stratford upon avon? if so, where is it? I thought the one there had closed down because of the lack of parking?

llareggub · 23/08/2008 23:49

Yes, this one has just opened. It is off the A46 and has loads of parking!

here is the website.

elkiedee · 24/08/2008 00:01

mummy2go and kathryn77, perhaps the two of you should get together if you're in the same area. I'm nowhere near you and people have covered the things that bother me - one soft play place we've been to is much nicer than the other, but there are still problems with older kids in the little ones area and parents who seem to think they can forget about their kids while they drink their hot drinks. I regard indoor soft play as a bit of a last resort for when it's too wet for our local park.

nappyaddict · 24/08/2008 00:01

i did a massive post on this a few months ago will try to find it.

nappyaddict · 24/08/2008 00:17

got it. glad i only have to copy and paste this time. this is going to be long but here goes:

most places are free for under 1s but i think it should be free for under 2's. i really begrudge paying the same amount as older children who can use the whole centre when my little boy can only use the baby area. ours is free for under 1s, 1-4s are £1.50 and over 5s are £2.95. ours does have a thing though where you pay full price for the first child and each additional child is only £2. another good thing is recognised groups and childminders get a discount and the prices don't increase in school holidays or weekends. there is also a group rate where if there is 10 children or more you get 50p or £1 off each child.

i like the ones that are open from 9:30am to 8pm every day - it means it doesn't get as crowded cos the times when people go are more spread out. also think of your location. somewhere on a bus route is best - not everyone drives. also something only about 10-15 mins walk outside of the town centre means that people can just drop in before or after doing their shopping.

unlimited play is best unless it is really busy then i think a 2 hour limit would be good.

partys are a good idea too. our local one does laser parties where they go around in the dark trying to shoot one another,pottery painting parties, 5 a side parties and mini make over parties. popular themed party rooms at these places are pirates, space, diamond mine, land of sweets, desert island, under the sea, jungle, disco, harry potter, star wars, pop idol where they have a karoke competition. some have a party throne for the birthday boy/girl. you get free invites, party bags and a free return visit for the birthday child. one has an option to have a stretch limo!!! some do circus skill parties with a clown, balloon modelling and face painting, arts and crafts parties and cookery parties which are a bit different to your average soft play party. my cousin went to one where there was an animal person with skunks, meerkats, owls, snakes, spiders, hedgehogs, parrots etc. also my friend's little boy went to one where they made personalised teddy bear's and t-shirts and then had a teddy bear's picnic. i'm sure lots of little girls would love a princess party - but i'm not sure if the boys would be very impressed. maybe you could combine it with something a bit more boy friendly? we got to one which lets you hire out the whole centre for the day aswell if you want and they also do adult parties between 8 and 10pm which are fab. my favourite bit is the drop slide!!!! it's £5.95 per person and you get free food and drink.

there seem to be quite a few with climbing walls and go kart tracks aswell these days. climbing and go karting parties would mean getting older children having parties there too as do the sports areas which mean you can have netball, basketball, tennis and football parties. oh and the one with the disco room i mentioned has disco parties.

good idea to advertise on the website if you are goin to be closing early because of a party or if certain areas will be closed off.

obvious essentials are lots of free parking, lots of easy to clean high chairs and play gyms for younger babies, low sinks and toilets for littlies, toilets big enough to take the buggy into, empty nappy bin regularly - ours has one of those nappy wrappers and it hardly ever smells and if it does if you tell them they empty it immediately. i think all staff should crb checked and therefore need to be 18+. choc/sweets not on counter - ds often stands up at the counter and grabs as much as he can which is a bit of pain. also a cleaning station is useful but only if it is high up. same for the little table where you have milk, jugs of water, sugar etc for drinks. drinks in boxes like those wine carriers but smaller so when you are walking to your table running children don't knock them all flying. laminate flooring and leather seating is easy to keep clean and stays looking nicer for longer. a microwave for baby food and bottle warmer is fab so you don't have to wait in the queue to get it warmed up with a hungry, screaming baby.

lockers for handbags, purses etc i always have to make sure i wear trousers with large pockets cos i don't want to leave it unattended when i go on the equipment with ds. a buggy park could be useful too. magazines and newspapers a good idea along with some kids mags and books.

also have lots of tables of 2 that you can push together if you need a bigger table. when our soft play is busy you can never get a table but there's always say 1 parent taking up a table for 4 or sometimes bigger while their kids are off playing.

instead of horrible plasticky seats ours has big sofas and leather beanbags to sit on. another thing that i hate is all these places have horrible flickering lights. would it kill them to put a few windows in so we could get some natural light? gorgeous (and healthy) food like wraps, paninis and baguette amongst other things is a must.

ours has a netted off area with blow machines to fire soft balls at targets, a bouncy castle and an indoor sports area. every saturday they do a soccor group for 1-5 year olds in there. they hire out their sports area to local 5 a side teams and tennis and basket ball clubs, a gymnastics school and a dance school. they also do rollerblading sessions.

every morning and afternoon up until 3:30 is parent and toddler group which is £1.50 and you get 2 rounds of toast, a hot drink, squash and biscuits or toast for the children and every afternoon where the adult gets a hot drink and a cake and the children get squash and biscuits or toast again. it's 50p for additional children. also every afternoon they have a different activity on which includes free play after. after 3pm you also have the option of paying £3.25 and you get tea and squash included.

mondays is dancing
tuesdays is pottery and painting
wednesdays is music group
thursdays is cookery
fridays is story and rhyme time

they have a face painter there most days and also do a baby signing group on one of the mornings and a breastfeeding support group on one of the other mornings which is good cos it lets people know they are breastfeeding friendly.

we went to ours this morning and found out they are just starting a morning session of messy play - so sand, jelly and water, pasta etc. sounds great - means i won't have to do the clearing up afterwards! they are also starting trampolining lessons, a baby massage course and language classes in french and spanish. i'm thinking of signing ds up for the spanish ones.

also ours do a thing mon-fri where if you buy an adult meal you get a child's meal for a £1. children's meals are a must have. different portions for unders 5s and under 10s are less wasteful. they also sell sunday roasts on a sunday which are very popular apparently. they have sky tv which show are the latest programmes and premiership football matches. also companies can pay to put adverts on the tv.

Also one near us allows you to take your own food if you want. A lot of people don't bother but for weeks when i don't have much money but still want to do things with ds, it means i can still go as it only costs £1.50 but i don't have to worry about paying extra for food and drinks for him.

I love it cos there is no height restriction so i can go up too!! also have the age limit as 16 cos often, especially if you are on holiday and using one of these places or going en route from shopping or whatever you will have older siblings with you and they will probably want to join in too. no one wants a sulky teen hanging around whilst their younger brothers and sisters are having the time of their lives. and make sure the adults can go on too. when i take my child somewhere i want to be able to play with him and have fun not sit bored at a table. The only thing with this is you need to make sure the staff will enforce rules cos older children might be a bit boisterous and start throwing balls out of the ball pit etc and hurting the younger ones.

agree an outdoor area and air con would make me more likely to go in the summer. also good heating in the winter. a lot of them are in industrial places and are so cold in the winter we have to keep our coats on. passes are a good idea too. ours has a loyalty scheme where after every 10 visits you get a free one.

i agree 3 areas would be good but i would make it so younger children can go in the older area at their parent's own risk but older children can't go in the younger areas. i would do it by age not height cos some children are tall for their age and its a shame if they can't go on when all their friends can.

if you have those air hockey machines, pool tables, coin operated machines can you make it so they don't actually require any money? i don't know how but i have been to one where they work without putting anything in them - i'm not sure if they use tokens or something instead?

it also has a kids hair salon and beauty rooms which are a great hit with the mums. they offer a creche service so you can go off and get pampered or go and do your shopping whilst your kids go and play or bribe your kids with being able to play after having their hair cut.

ours does a play scheme for over 8s where you can leave the children and they have trained play supervisors to keep them amused. it is £7.99 in term time and £8.99 at weekends and in holidays. they have a creche for younger children which is £4.20 for up to 2 hours or £2.95 for up to 90 minutes.

One thing I've seen at one play centre that I haven't seen anywhere else is alarmed belts to put on the children when you go in, so that any child heading out the door will set the alarm off. The belts are 'locked' with a key onto the child's clothing.

someone told me about one in australia with a little train than ran around it. that would be fab!!

staff who don't just spend the entire time chatting and ignoring the children would be nice. ones that get involved and help them and play with them would be fab.

a bit of music is fine obviously but not blaring!!

in cardiff there's a place called cafe junior which is a play area with lots of wooden toys. They have a brio train set, a wooden noahs ark, dolls, cars, castles, kitchens, dogs, rocking horses, animals, push alongs, bricks, slides, play houses, books, prams, costumes and much more. i wish our play centre had a little area with stuff like this cos sometimes by little boy is too tired to go climbing and sliding and just wants a quiet play with trains and cars.

ds loves those huge car mats too. he spends ages playing with those. my friend goes to one with trampolines which sound fun. ours has a supervised messy area where you can do painting, pottery, playdough, colouring, drawing, cutting and sticking etc. they've just got some of those wheelybugs which all the kids love. there is also a sensory room which is fabby. we've also been to one where they had a little race track for ride on toys which ds thought was great.

also been to one where they had a disco room with flashing lights and music and a games console area and a tv room with lots of floor cushions and beanbags where they play movies etc. games consoles, tvs etc in need to be a separate room so they aren't the first thing your child sees which means they won't go on anything else.

a big play pen where you can put younger babies would be good. i used to hate it when ds would crawl off and i would be trying to drink my drink. more than once i've jumped up in alarm to rescue him and knocked it all over me.

a gift shop that sells little crafty items will bring extra money in.

i have been to one with internet access but i would love it if you could take your own laptop and get wi-fi - even better if it was free like in wetherspoons/starbucks.

ours also sometimes has book fairs and sometimes has different companies coming in to try and sell stuff. usually those home-sellers that do phoenix cards, usborne books, children's clothes etc.

just looked at one near where we are going for half term and it has an outdoor area with "climbing frame, paddling pool, mega-sized sand pit, play houses, toddlers' cars... and more !

There's plenty of grass, picnic tables and deck chairs too, so bring along a picnic or choose from our full cafe menu."

Phew that took a while!!Hope you're still with me

1dilemma · 24/08/2008 00:51

wow nappyaddict you wrote the thread!

Your ds is cute cute cute

You are pretty and you look soooo young I wish I was 19 again (meant as a compliment I assure you)

Your soft play sounds fab is it N/S/E/W? How far from London?
(presuming you don't want to say where you are obviously)

To answer the OP as most have said, agree don't charge for babies who can only sit in a ball pool, under no circs charge the parents (!!) and don't charge 2.95 for 1 sainsburys valus crumpet (as a cafe near us does and yes I've never been able to bring myself to go back)

sophiebbb · 24/08/2008 00:56

make sure the under 2s area is kept that way. It really annoys me when the big kids bound in and step on my 1 year old and no one else gives a !

nappyaddict · 24/08/2008 00:58

Just remembered other toddler activities are singing, cooking and building. We went to one with a big wooden pirate ship and farm with tractors and animals that ds loved. Tried one of the messy play sessions which was fab. ds especially loved glitter and water play.

I noticed in that post that i have copied and pasted there's nothing about art and crafts parties. Quite a few places are doing these now.

My friend was telling about one where they have a photographer come in one week a month and they put effects etc on the pictures while your child plays. It's free to have them taken - you just pay if you decide you want them.

Found this on one website - "Thanks to strong demand, we are installing a brand new Quickie Charger to make sure you are never caught out with a low battery. The new Quickie Charger will accept most mobile phone models and for only �1 will give a 'super' charge giving your phone hours of standby time." - not sure if i would bother with that tbh. what do others think about that?

Consider twins discount, discount for disabled children, discount for families with 3 or more children, discount for groups of 6 children or more, discount for childminders and nannies.

As for the play structure - ball pits, wavy slides, vertical slides, twirly slides, those rope swingy things, trampolines, up and down tunnels, rope bridges, cargo nets, those spinny things where you hold on to the pole, look outs, those big ball things that you can roll around on, those vertical and horizontal roller things that look like car washes, log thingys that you walk across, massive building blocks, giant connect 4, snakes and ladders, ludo, draughts, twister, chess etc

Sensory mats and textured flooring, bubble tubles, lava lamps, touch walls, lightshows, disco ball, disco lights are good for sensory rooms.

nappyaddict · 24/08/2008 01:00

1dilemma - i'm in the midlands. anything i've written is based on a few local ones that i go to. my favourite 3 are in wolverhampton, blackheath and wednesbury but you've probably never heard of those places!

1dilemma · 24/08/2008 01:03

lol cheeky
Blackheath is near Greenwich isn't it?

Look on google maps

1dilemma · 24/08/2008 01:04

I can hear that Wolverhampton accent as we write!!

They do sound great it is a bit far to go for a play though!

nappyaddict · 24/08/2008 01:05

there's one in surrey, essex, london and birmingham (the one i was talking about)

1dilemma · 24/08/2008 01:06

Gambado??

nappyaddict · 24/08/2008 01:12

eh?

1dilemma · 24/08/2008 01:13

It's Spanish for soft play!

1dilemma · 24/08/2008 01:15

No I just wondered if that was the one in all those places you listed.
I am in London might be able to take the dcs sounds fab they'd love it, if the coffee is any good I'd love it.

(I'm wondering now how far I'd go accross London for a soft play?)

nappyaddict · 24/08/2008 01:17

1dilemma- may i ask how old you are? i always imagine you to be youngish.

1dilemma · 24/08/2008 01:19

You're my favourite person

A lot more than you think

I found a hair today that was brown at the bottom and grey at the top I can't believe it i really am too young for grey hair.

It's probably because you think only the young can be up this late!

nappyaddict · 24/08/2008 01:19

i guess 33?

1dilemma · 24/08/2008 01:22

Add 3!!!

So is 33 young or youngish?

nappyaddict · 24/08/2008 01:23

ooooh it was a toss up between 33 and 37! yep tis youngish in my mind lol. 33 may even be young!!

1dilemma · 24/08/2008 01:24

Now you're my double favourite person

or maybe my fave tomorrow night as well

nappyaddict · 24/08/2008 01:26

tehe excellent. i bet you are also beautiful with a gorgeous figure, sparkly eyes, clear dewy winkle-free skin, high cheekbones, long lashes, perfect eyebrows and plump lips oh and a nice bum and boobs. how long can i be your favourite for now?

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