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Got scammed and Employer called me stupid

149 replies

FidoO5 · 05/05/2026 23:32

Made a massive error at work
I pay suppliers. We had new supplier who emailed to change bank details from original bank details. We usually phone supplier to confirm but it was over and back for a while and it was getting urgent.
I asked them to confirm new details and I sent the payment.
later it was discovered by the original supplier while on phone to buyer that they did not request to be sent to new bank.
My Employer was notified by the buyer and employer said how could you be so stupid.
I broke down and cried when I came off the phone.
I was able to recall the payment but now have to worry about what Employer will do tomorrow. I understand he was angry and annoyed but I am doing Accounts for 35 years so don't think I'm stupid.
I fell for a scam.
Don't know what point off my post is only getting it it in a note makes it helpful
What should I say to Employer tomorrow
If I say yes I made an error his answer is that is not a good enough answer.

OP posts:
ArtAngel · 06/05/2026 07:41

Marmalade71 · 06/05/2026 07:36

Op if your follow up post is the actual process - you absolutely need to tell your boss who didn’t make call when they’re supposed to do so. Choosing not to dump on someone could literally cost you your job. If you’ve explained the situation to your boss as you first did to us - though of course they should know the process - it does make you look stupid. If the Canadian team are actually responsible because of time zone issues then you need to document exactly where the process fell down.

Send that email so it’s with your boss when they come online this morning!

Edited

THIS!

Be factual. The important outcome is the whole company / system getting it right in future not you martyring yourself.

ClaireEclair · 06/05/2026 07:41

You’re not stupid at all. People at my work have done worse. One made an error which resulted in a company wide hack. She’s still employed and was just given training. We’ve also had quite bad data breaches. All are seen as learning exercises so mistakes aren’t made again.

You realised your error, flagged it and corrected it. At my company this would be seen as a positive thing and something no one else will do again.

Mummyoflittledragon · 06/05/2026 07:43

Agapornis · 06/05/2026 07:39

Clearly the buyer is happy to drop you into it, so why wouldn't you do the same in return? It's the buyer that either fell for the scam, or he's involved in the scam himself.

Alternatively the buyer and admin email addresses have been hacked. They need to get IT involved.

Edited

This is true. And it doesn’t have to be a drop the buyer in it. Purely factual timeline.

BeavisMcTavish · 06/05/2026 07:45

AbzMoz · 06/05/2026 00:05

These scammers are using increasingly sophisticated techniques. If you followed the process of how to update / validate supplier info then it suggests the process isn’t strong enough. You’ve apologised and taken steps to correct the error. Of course it ‘could have cost him’ - but that’s precisely the point of the scam! TBH if he calls you stupid or other derogatory words I’d be documenting that as it’s not on.

my friend once fell for similar - say their company was million the scammer had set up an email address as miliion so v difficult to recognise.

Edited

But they didn’t… they have processes and sounds like they were not followed.

rule 101 - never change bank account details because they appear on an invoice or via email. Use a ‘known good number’ at least and speak to a known contact.

DinosaurBlue · 06/05/2026 07:50

FidoO5 · 06/05/2026 01:22

Thanks everyone
Yes it was a large sum 57k Canadian dollars
I work for a Canadian company but I work from home in Ireland so we have time difference
The invoice had, been approved for payment but I didn't wait on the verbal agreement of the change of bank account
I am going to suggest double authorize on bank but don't know if that will solve it as, after a, while he will just approve in a hurry and if wrong still be my fault.
Boss is never in the wrong
Thank God I work from home

Well if wasn’t your boss who didn’t follow company procedure, so not sure why you’re mentioning that he can never do wrong.

He was wrong to call you stupid but I’m not an account and even I know you verify any account changes over the phone. Mistakes happen to all of us, but he’s not the one who caused the issue here.

Deadleaves77 · 06/05/2026 07:55

I can't actually work out who has emailed you to say the bank details changed, and who was supposed to get verbal authorisation and who OP was actually supposed to call.

Is the buyer in on the scam? They are the one creating pressure, who I think is supposed to check the payment details and conveniently wouldnt answer your calls

helpfulperson · 06/05/2026 07:57

Sodthesystem · 06/05/2026 00:25

"Well that's the only answer answer can give you. I've already apologised so the balls in your court".

Mistakes happen. It's not as if anyone would have expected a scam like that.

It is a very common workplace scam and is the main example in the regular scam awareness training we get at work. Generally people in accounts are very aware of it.

But he still shouldn't have called you stupid.

LittleBearPad · 06/05/2026 08:05

You apologise and figure out exactly what happened with your boss so it can’t happen again.

You did make a payment without the details being checked - regardless of who was required to check them. It was a stupid thing to do which you are going to have to acknowledge and ensure doesn’t happen again.

Bedtimeread · 06/05/2026 08:06

Is there a possibility that the buyer was doing something fraudulent? Seems strange you now can’t contact him. It’s not about getting anyone in trouble but if you value your own job you need to be fully honest and transparent with the process. We all make mistakes.

Yodeldodeldo · 06/05/2026 08:09

Ah they tried this scam at the small business where I work a few months back and I think the banks anti fraud team detected it and phoned the CEO.

Do you work at a small business with an offsite book keeper by any chance?

Owly11 · 06/05/2026 08:11

It sounds like something slipped up between admin and yourself. It's a learning point for you to ask them next time directly 'has verbal agreement to the change been made'. In this case I would take the paper trail to show exactly what happened and maybe already have thought of an upgraded process that will ensure this doesn't happen again.

rwalker · 06/05/2026 08:14

Marmalade71 · 06/05/2026 07:36

Op if your follow up post is the actual process - you absolutely need to tell your boss who didn’t make call when they’re supposed to do so. Choosing not to dump on someone could literally cost you your job. If you’ve explained the situation to your boss as you first did to us - though of course they should know the process - it does make you look stupid. If the Canadian team are actually responsible because of time zone issues then you need to document exactly where the process fell down.

Send that email so it’s with your boss when they come online this morning!

Edited

I presume OP should of had some confirmation that the call had been made so ok to go ahead

so she went ahead without confirming the called had been made nice try but it’s still on her

Ellie1015 · 06/05/2026 08:22

You didnt follow the processes in place to protect against this scam. Stupid is not professional language but I would expect words to that effect tbh.

Double authorisation at the bank would not have prevented this. I would such Canadian admin should state "bank details confirmed" if they have checked, if not you must always check.

StephensLass1977 · 06/05/2026 08:31

Every time I transfer money from my personal bank account, even if it's £50, you're warned to specifically watch out for any sense of "urgency" as it's likely to be a scam. I'm surprised that with 35 years' experience this has bypassed you. Also do you not receive training?

Glad you could recall it though, so no real harm done, and you'll have to take it on the chin as to what your boss does. Do NOT ever let him call you names, though. You made a mistake.

CharSiu · 06/05/2026 08:32

I received and signed for a delivery at work once, around 80 items. Not my job but the finance and acquisitions officer who ordered it was nowhere to be found. An item was missing, item was around 2k but I had signed for it. They changed the procedure to two people having to check items. I didn’t get in trouble, not sure if finance officer did and I did not care.

You need to relay exactly what happened as in your further post. If some random Canadian gets a warning what is it to you? You still have the fact you didn’t confirm so it’s on both of you really.

I used to have to check drugs that were going to anaesthetise patients, very strict protocols at play there. I love a procedure and always abide to the letter. It’s purely for self protection.

WindyAnna · 06/05/2026 08:34

YummyPieCrust · 06/05/2026 00:15

They may be covered by their cyber insurance, assuming they have any.

I'm sorry you were called names. That's not on.

If it was a phone call then cyber insurance won't cover it as there's nothing cyber about it. The OP dies day they recalled the payment successfully.

YummyPieCrust · 06/05/2026 08:36

WindyAnna · 06/05/2026 08:34

If it was a phone call then cyber insurance won't cover it as there's nothing cyber about it. The OP dies day they recalled the payment successfully.

Cyber includes scams via various methods. It also includes staff training in order to ensure cover going forward when there has been a breach.

Persephonegoddess · 06/05/2026 08:37

You made a mistake and did not independently verify the bank details. You are lucky you were only called stupid and not given a formal warning on the spot or removed from the banking process going forward.
Given the details you have given, your company needs to investigate the buyer, them putting pressure on makes me think they are involved. I hope you learn from this and are more careful to follow process in the future.

WindyAnna · 06/05/2026 08:39

Wrong of them to call you stupid but as you said it's a massive mistake. It's possible to check the validity of a bank account on-line in most cases, that should be part of the process. If not then calling the bank to check the name on the account as well as calling the supplier themselves (someone's they'll have called a few weeks before to change the phone number).

Duvetdayneeded · 06/05/2026 08:40

This is such a basic scam… I’m surprised more people don’t realise this.

LoyalMember · 06/05/2026 08:52

RawBloomers · 06/05/2026 02:23

I'm not sure why so many people are going on about how sophisticated a scam this might have been. It was basic and you screwed up by not following a straightforward company policy.

So the question to focus on is why, with 35 years experience, did you fail to follow the simple, and blindingly obvious, policy? What made you feel so pressured on this occasion? Is the policy often ignored, but normally it's not a scam so people have been getting a bit lazy? Has there been management pressure to get more done and that makes you feel like you need to take shortcuts? Are you short staffed? Ask yourself, OP, why you made the mistake this time when you normally don't. And then work out what steps you can take to reassure your boss that you won't be making that, or a similar mistake, again.

Edited

Oh, I see the OP's boss has got himself a Mumsnet login.

Woodfiresareamazing2 · 06/05/2026 08:55

FidoO5 · 06/05/2026 03:08

Thanks, everyone
Just to clarify as I am in a different country and time zone it is actually not me that rings for verbal confirmation
There is, different buyers and admin in the office in Canada and Admin emailed me this is the bank details for the payment, so I assumed they had the verbal authorisation but as I am Accounts I will not drop anyone else in. It is the buyer that gets the verbal instructions for a new supplier.
The buyer turned his teams, to busy and wouldn't accept my call on what's app
All our internal communication is done via teams or email.
The buyer had sent few emails to get it paid.
If I have a disciplinary I have backup emails to cover why I proceeded with the payment.
Yes I agree with everyone it was stupid of me.

I don't think it's dropping anyone else in it if you just explain the whole process of how this happened.

If someone else also did something wrong/didn't follow procedures, that's relevant to why you did what you did.

Sounds like everyone involved needs to be reminded that procedures are there for a reason and must be followed.

The name calling is completely inappropriate but sadly we've probably all had a boss like that...

DinosaurBlue · 06/05/2026 08:55

Duvetdayneeded · 06/05/2026 08:40

This is such a basic scam… I’m surprised more people don’t realise this.

Yes agree so many people think it’s sophisticated. It’s one of the most common scams involving businesses and OP should be more worried about losing her job than being called stupid.

Viviennemary · 06/05/2026 08:58

You made a mistake because you didn't follow policy. At least it was sorted. Just apologise and say it won't happen again.

IDontHateRainbows · 06/05/2026 08:59

I once signed off a £25000 invoice without checking the source, it had been posted to my department in error so for a while we thought it was a scam until we found it was a legit bill sent to wrong department.

Just trying to make OP feel a bit better although in my case I wasn't called stupid or even told off, whole company was quite slap dash about these things.