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Got scammed and Employer called me stupid

149 replies

FidoO5 · 05/05/2026 23:32

Made a massive error at work
I pay suppliers. We had new supplier who emailed to change bank details from original bank details. We usually phone supplier to confirm but it was over and back for a while and it was getting urgent.
I asked them to confirm new details and I sent the payment.
later it was discovered by the original supplier while on phone to buyer that they did not request to be sent to new bank.
My Employer was notified by the buyer and employer said how could you be so stupid.
I broke down and cried when I came off the phone.
I was able to recall the payment but now have to worry about what Employer will do tomorrow. I understand he was angry and annoyed but I am doing Accounts for 35 years so don't think I'm stupid.
I fell for a scam.
Don't know what point off my post is only getting it it in a note makes it helpful
What should I say to Employer tomorrow
If I say yes I made an error his answer is that is not a good enough answer.

OP posts:
AllJoyAndNoFun · 06/05/2026 06:36

If it is the buyer who calls to check bank details that’s not a great control as it doesn’t guard against collusion between the buyer and the supplier or a buyer setting up a fake supplier- collusion with accounts also possible but less likely as would be harder to approve the purchase without a budget to allocate to. It’s usually finance who call the supplier via their switchboard number to confirm bank details.

Mummyoflittledragon · 06/05/2026 06:39

Naddd · 06/05/2026 05:48

It's quite simple, she should have rung the supplier back to confirm it was genuine but didn't and it turns out it was a scam.
She screwed up by not following procedure

It’s not op’s job to do that. This to me is a procedures issue.

Bearbookagainandagain · 06/05/2026 06:46

This is such a well known scam by now, that if anyone in your team fell for it - particularly someone with a lot of experience - then there is an issue with the procedure and training.
You should suggest to your boss a review and update of the SOP on payment management (if you don't have an SOP, suggest to write one).

Change in banking details should absolutely be confirmed before payment, ideally using the 4 eyes principles (meaning that 2 individual are involved in the review, e.g. 1 call the supplier to confirm the new details, and a 1 signoff internally that the new details are correct).

PenelopePinkerton · 06/05/2026 06:47

This is a well known scam and you should have followed procedure for the change of details. Unfortunately this is totally on you and your employer is right to be annoyed.

Ophy83 · 06/05/2026 06:48

Has your boss provided cyber security training? We have to do it and one key thing we are taught is that emailed changes to account/payment details should always be confirmed with a phone call. If your boss hasn't given you that training then he's the stupid one

ThejoyofNC · 06/05/2026 06:53

Why can't you accept that you were stupid? You're very lucky they got the money back. I think you got off very lightly if all you get from sending £57k to a scammer is called stupid tbh. I would be hoping you don't lose your job.

CleanHouseForNow · 06/05/2026 06:58

I will not drop anyone else in
A stupid position to take. You correctly inform them of the steps that lead to the error. This isn’t the time for some moral stand / martyr complex.

We have all made mistakes at work, we are only human. You need to go into damage limitation mode if you want to keep your job.

AngryHerring · 06/05/2026 06:59

Mulledjuice · 06/05/2026 00:13

We usually phone supplier to confirm but it was over and back for a while and it was getting urgent.

Who said it was urgent? Scammers will always try to create a sense of urgency so people dont exercise their usual common sense and control.

You didn't follow the agreed process.

What can you do to make sure noone (including you) makes that mistake again? Where else are your payments vulnerable?

I fid my cyber security annual refresher yesterday. This is literally the playback "create urgency" part of phishing.

You are lucky not to have git your marching orders OO. I would have if I'd done that.

Procedures are there for a reason

Thunderdcc · 06/05/2026 07:04

No payment cannot wait 24 hours if you are unsure. Phone verification should always be done using the number on Google not anything on documents that have come in by email.

I would suggest an improvement to the process where there is a form detailing the checks done and you don't update the system until you have received that signed form.

Totaldramallama · 06/05/2026 07:07

Mummyoflittledragon · 06/05/2026 06:39

It’s not op’s job to do that. This to me is a procedures issue.

Edited

Well Op has only added that rather important detail later, so many of the replies will be based on her original op

bignewprinz · 06/05/2026 07:08

It was stupid mistake, but you are not stupid. Careless in that instance. You won't make that mistake again.

In my business I treat mistakes as an opportunity to refine operational protocols. Especially as scams against businesses are rife.

My company debit card was held with a few suppliers. I noticed that someone had used it to pay off a loan once. Presumably hoping the payment would get lost in amongst all the other high value transactions. Can only be a staff member at one of my suppliers.

As soon as the bank refunded the money I cancelled the card and only give out an Amex now.

AlphaApple · 06/05/2026 07:11

Take a deep breath.

Write down the process step by step.

Write down everything that happened.

Point out where you and others did not follow the process.

Apologise for your part in the problem.

Don’t take responsibility for the mistakes of other people or for a poor process. Sounds like you were not the only person in the wrong.

Suggest solutions.

He should not have called you stupid. You should have the experience and the confidence to stick to the process even when a colleague is pressuring you.

All the best for today.

rwalker · 06/05/2026 07:12

Mummyoflittledragon · 06/05/2026 06:39

It’s not op’s job to do that. This to me is a procedures issue.

Edited

Even if it’s somebody else’s job to do that surely the person doing the calls has to confirm with the people making the payments it’s ok to do so
so whilst OP doesn’t make the calls surely she has to have confirmation of the people who do that the check has been done before she proceed
so OP knows these checks are done but didn’t find out if it had been done

the blame is still on OP

Apprentice26 · 06/05/2026 07:16

I’m sorry, but we would’ve fired you for that. You’re lucky if you still got your job never mind. Just called stupid.
You won’t be able to recall the money it’ll be gone

Fast800goingforit · 06/05/2026 07:16

FidoO5 · 06/05/2026 01:22

Thanks everyone
Yes it was a large sum 57k Canadian dollars
I work for a Canadian company but I work from home in Ireland so we have time difference
The invoice had, been approved for payment but I didn't wait on the verbal agreement of the change of bank account
I am going to suggest double authorize on bank but don't know if that will solve it as, after a, while he will just approve in a hurry and if wrong still be my fault.
Boss is never in the wrong
Thank God I work from home

Double authorisation in this kind of case isn't enough. You need specifically to contact the supplier using the phone number recorded for them in your system and to speak to someone there to verify the bank details. The process needs to be much more detailed and precise.

ivegotthisyeah · 06/05/2026 07:18

It’s more common than you think, like someone else said your company may have cyber insurance and should offer regular training to employees as a condition of this insurance

Dancingsquirrels · 06/05/2026 07:22

Sodthesystem · 06/05/2026 00:25

"Well that's the only answer answer can give you. I've already apologised so the balls in your court".

Mistakes happen. It's not as if anyone would have expected a scam like that.

An email changing bank details is exactly the kind of scam people are / should be aware of

OP didn't confirm by phone. Again, a common precaution that people are / should be aware of

This wasn't a sophisticated scam

OP, I'm glad you were able to recall the payment

SnappyQuoter · 06/05/2026 07:23

AbzMoz · 06/05/2026 00:05

These scammers are using increasingly sophisticated techniques. If you followed the process of how to update / validate supplier info then it suggests the process isn’t strong enough. You’ve apologised and taken steps to correct the error. Of course it ‘could have cost him’ - but that’s precisely the point of the scam! TBH if he calls you stupid or other derogatory words I’d be documenting that as it’s not on.

my friend once fell for similar - say their company was million the scammer had set up an email address as miliion so v difficult to recognise.

Edited

She didn’t follow procedure which is the entire reason the scam worked. She ignored procedure.

momager22 · 06/05/2026 07:25

He was really out of order calling you stupid but surely you need to take it on the chin for not calling them to check it was legit ?

AlphaApple · 06/05/2026 07:30

Dancingsquirrels · 06/05/2026 07:22

An email changing bank details is exactly the kind of scam people are / should be aware of

OP didn't confirm by phone. Again, a common precaution that people are / should be aware of

This wasn't a sophisticated scam

OP, I'm glad you were able to recall the payment

My understanding from the OP’s post is that it was not her responsibility to make the confirmation phone call, it was the buyers. Her responsibility was to check the buyer had made the call. So while she is not blameless, she is one of at least two people responsible for this failure. She should not have buckled under pressure from her colleague or the scammer but she did successfully recall the payment and should be acknowledged for that.

Devondevs · 06/05/2026 07:34

Apprentice26 · 06/05/2026 07:16

I’m sorry, but we would’ve fired you for that. You’re lucky if you still got your job never mind. Just called stupid.
You won’t be able to recall the money it’ll be gone

Did you even read the OP?

Marmalade71 · 06/05/2026 07:36

Op if your follow up post is the actual process - you absolutely need to tell your boss who didn’t make call when they’re supposed to do so. Choosing not to dump on someone could literally cost you your job. If you’ve explained the situation to your boss as you first did to us - though of course they should know the process - it does make you look stupid. If the Canadian team are actually responsible because of time zone issues then you need to document exactly where the process fell down.

Send that email so it’s with your boss when they come online this morning!

ArtAngel · 06/05/2026 07:36

OP, I think be confident and upfront with your boss about it.

Say you made an error and you have gone over the whole communication that led to this and identified the exact moment you could have stopped, but realise that that is exactly where the scammers put the pressure on.

Include the communication with the colleague. NOT in the spirit of ‘it wasn’t my fault’ or trying to evade responsibility but as a factor in how pressure built. The time zones and people being busy are relevant in the build up of pressure and it may be there needs to be a contingency built into the process.

Take responsibility, show you have analysed how it happened (I would have a bullet point timeline of all Acton’s and communications during the process, including with colleague - it’s not his fault he was bushy!) and how you will not let this happen again. With suggestions about the process if appropriate.

Good luck!

OursonGuimauve · 06/05/2026 07:37

FidoO5 · 06/05/2026 03:08

Thanks, everyone
Just to clarify as I am in a different country and time zone it is actually not me that rings for verbal confirmation
There is, different buyers and admin in the office in Canada and Admin emailed me this is the bank details for the payment, so I assumed they had the verbal authorisation but as I am Accounts I will not drop anyone else in. It is the buyer that gets the verbal instructions for a new supplier.
The buyer turned his teams, to busy and wouldn't accept my call on what's app
All our internal communication is done via teams or email.
The buyer had sent few emails to get it paid.
If I have a disciplinary I have backup emails to cover why I proceeded with the payment.
Yes I agree with everyone it was stupid of me.

You have to send those emails to your boss/your IT team, if the pressure was coming from the 'buyer' and 'admin' in your company and they were avoiding answering a question about whether the bank details have been verbally confirmed it may be that their accounts have been compromised. It sounds like you didn't follow a procedure under pressure from colleagues to move forward on a change of details, which either is part of the scam or your company needs to be aware that creating pressure like that for supplier set ups is risky because it can lead to processes being bypassed

Agapornis · 06/05/2026 07:39

Clearly the buyer is happy to drop you into it, so why wouldn't you do the same in return? It's the buyer that either fell for the scam, or he's involved in the scam himself.

Alternatively the buyer and admin email addresses have been hacked. They need to get IT involved.