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Managing a compulsive ‘yes’ person

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Theweedygarden · 03/10/2025 06:18

TLDR: A compulsive ‘yes’ female colleague has made one to many errors and now I need to manage her incredibly emotional, and slightly childish, response.

I line manage someone who manages a compulsive ‘yes’ woman (A). Anything anyone asks of A, she will do. The person I line manage has been off for several weeks now, and although I have always been aware of A’s issues it is now becoming ridiculous and impacting on business need and my time. Her inability to say ‘no’ means she is late actioning things for me and several times this week I have had to step in and tell her she is not to do something. She cannot manage other colleagues, including those more senior than her (which whilst uncomfortable is part of her job and she knew this when she applied for the role), and her desire to consistently say yes to them means we are actually failing to deliver priorities. She seems to rely on more senior people delivering tough messages that, when I was doing her role, I delivered with ease and others doing the same role can also deliver.

Her interactions with colleagues often go something along the lines of;

B: ‘Can you book this room for me?’
A: (more senior) ‘yes, of course. I’ll do it now.’
Me: ‘Absolutely not. It is B’s job to do this.’

C: ‘We can’t do this. X won’t be happy.’
A: ‘Of course I understand.’
Me: ‘Unfortunately, C it is not our problem if X is not happy - our job is to deliver these outcomes, if your contact is not happy with that it is your job to manage the fallout.’

D: ‘We can’t say this. It will upset them.’
A: ‘Of course. What would you suggest?’
Me: ‘The steer from above has been we are to say this, it does not matter if it upsets them. We gave advice on this, our advice was taken under consideration but the steer from above is that we must proceed. You will need to deliver this message directly to V.’

She seems to worry more about upsetting her contacts across the office than she does about doing a good job. It feels almost as though in her mind if they are upset, she can’t be doing a good job. But in reality it’s the opposite - her contacts across the office should be upset because it is their job to push for unreasonable things to keep their external contacts happy, and it is our job to manage them and prioritise ruthlessly.

Anyway, earlier this week I ended up giving her a first written warning and stated that if she did not improve that I would have to put her on a performance management plan. She’s clearly devastated. She’s been crying at work all week, bursting into tears on video calls etc. But she’s also barely spoken to me (leaving messages read but unanswered on our internal system), and yesterday she failed to action something on time and to a decent standard (I received it after COP and it was very poorly drafted, and I had to send it on to my seniors for 09;00 this morning).

I’ve put an hour in our diaries today and told her I want to talk. I need to address the crying, the poor work yesterday and ignoring me when I asked for things to be done.

I know what to say, but I’m a bit torn on how best to say it. I don’t think being gentle will be help, in part because I am not sure I can as she has made some significant errors in judgement recently that have impacted the business and also because she’s an adult and I don’t think I should coddle her because she’s upset. But I know that if I am too harsh she will probably just cry again and that won’t be conducive to delivering the messages she needs to hears. There’s a happy middle, I’m sure, I’m just not sure what it is.

Has anyone ever had a similar conversation with a colleague? And, if so, how did you handle it?

OP posts:
Nelly91 · 05/10/2025 08:37

Ddakji · 03/10/2025 07:31

Poor girl? She sounds very senior to me.

@Ddakji I wasn’t referring to the OP. But then I think of myself as a girl and I’m a 36 year old woman!

Ddakji · 05/10/2025 08:40

Nelly91 · 05/10/2025 08:37

@Ddakji I wasn’t referring to the OP. But then I think of myself as a girl and I’m a 36 year old woman!

I’m not referring to the OP either. The woman under discussion sounds pretty senior from the descriptions.

Dozer · 05/10/2025 08:46

You have put in massive drip feed that she is a senior manager, overseeing 200 people!

As PPs say she has no unfair dismissal rights, just sex, race and/or disability discrimination. The idea that she’d ‘go to the press’ seems unlikely. Many companies would offer a negotiated departure and associated non disclosure type agreement.

It’s strange you’ve reached such seniority and have 30 years experience and have never encountered poor performance!

Theweedygarden · 10/10/2025 13:00

A very short update, with thanks to those who told me to take someone with me to the meeting!

HR and I spoke to A this week. We explained again that her actions (‘saying yes’ all the time) created more work for staff under her, contributed to their stress and made them work longer hours, and that this had been discussed before. When she said it hadn’t, I showed her the evidence that the person I line manage had carefully documented over a period of months (write/ups of conversations between the two that A had signed off on as being accurate). Other issues were also raised including her ignoring me.

A just crumpled and cried. She repeated again that it was ‘just her’ and she felt it was a personal attack on her character and she had been given no support. HR jumped in and explained all the support and even pointed out that many other organisations would have let someone go long before now (in a very diplomatic way) and that we had gone above and beyond.

A has since lodged a grievance against me, and against the person I line manage, claiming discrimination. HR person from the meeting is flabbergasted. I am unsurprised - I knew this was coming which is why I, and the person I manage, have gone above and beyond to show we have supported A.

A has no leg to stand on (according to both legal and HR), for various reasons that I won’t go into, but a good lesson for everyone out there: just because it’s easy to get rid of someone, don’t rush it. Take your time and go above and beyond so when claims like this come up, there is no way they will be upheld by any sort of tribunal. The person I line manage was 100% correct to do everything they possibly could to support A.

OP posts:
Doeschangingwork · 10/10/2025 13:14

Yes this doesn’t sound surprising. It will probably drag on for a few more months I would have thought, and perhaps put you and the other manager under stress. Try to preempt that and don’t take any of this personally - sometimes a person in a specific role is just not meant to be and it’s as simple as that. Ensure that A has some well being support, whatever your company can manage - which will benefit her but also help the org in a claim. And remember the golden rule - document document document absolutely everything and from now on go 2 up for all meetings. You will all get though this and if possible, if you can help her with an strategy, so that also. All the best.

burnoutbabe · 10/10/2025 15:09

In my place a 100k senior person would fail probation if they were like this. So look at how she passed probation to avoid that issue with others.
Have you moved onto dismissal process now or had her claim stopped that?

turkeyboots · 10/10/2025 15:26

Well done OP. Documenting everything and never having an unwitnessed conversation is so important. The original manager deserves a present for their work.
Tears and grievance filing is just the next tactic, going off on stress will be next probably and will drag the process out for ages. Look after yourself and the team during this time. Its a long haul.

Fabulously · 10/10/2025 15:29

to be honest the way you have worded things in your OP isn’t great either. There needs to be a middle ground between maintaining rapport between areas, and delivering difficult messages.

in fact, I think A is aware of this and is just using you as the fall guy. You saying “tough” every time is going to cause awkwardness between her and them so she’s letting you be the messenger.

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