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Not my CV or my consent!

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MyPurpleHeart · 04/12/2024 11:28

Looking for some advice please

My employer has recently been taken over by new owners and as such things are changing.

I am number 3 in my company, behind my MD and the senior manager.

Numbers 1 & 2 have been asked to give a copy of their CVs for a competency assessment for use in commercial bids. I was not asked. For context, if I was i would be asking questions about pay and job roles because I'm not even close enough to senior manager level.

My MD last week said he would put me on the assessment under a job role that i don't have, and wanted my CV. I refused. Thats not my job and i wont submit a CV for it.

Today he announces he has written me a CV and will be submitting it and wont let me see it.

Also, when I joined the company he didn't work here, and i was hired by head office so hes never actually seen my real CV.

Is this legal?!

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Panickingnowhelp · 04/12/2024 11:53

It sounds like they are submitting a file of staff members to show skill and competency. You refused to provide your own so he has made one for you.. effectively a document outlining your job role, tasks and skillset.
I dont think this is them applying for jobs for you and on your behalf- maybe the use of CV makes it come across like that.
It sounds like a company thing like they're tendering for work and are showing why the company can do it as they have these staff who can do XYZ
I have a job title but what I actually do goes way beyond that and could be called any number of things. I wouldn't worry he's changed your title.

I dont think or see how this could be illegal but I am not an employment lawyer.

SapphireOpal · 04/12/2024 11:57

Unless I'm misunderstanding, he's asked you to do something (put together a CV) and you've refused so he's had to do it for you. I'm not sure quite what your issue is but I don't know what industry you're in so maybe it isn't the norm to be sharing detail of employee skills etc in bidding for work?

Chocolattes · 04/12/2024 12:00

It's standard when bidding for work for CVs to demonstrate the experience and capabilities of the personnel who would be working on the requirement. What's your issue with it? They've had to do it for you as you refused, it'd be handled sensitively given it'd be info within a tender pack.

WildFigs · 04/12/2024 12:06

I think you've misunderstood what's being asked. He doesn't want your CV for you to apply for a new job. It's as part of a tender pack, which is a normal process (although people often use a slightly different CV). Not sure what you expected him to do when you refused to do what he asked.

LittleRedRidingHoody · 04/12/2024 12:08

Hmm I think you'll find your job application/CV was likely kept in your employee file - in paper or electronically - when you started so he likely does have access to your previous experience.

I'd tread likely here tbh. Sounds like there's lots of changes and I wouldn't be wanting to make waves or refusing anything at this stage - and what they're doing sounds very reasonable.

AlisonDonut · 04/12/2024 12:13

Honestly, do you want to carry on working there and win bids or not?

CitrineRaindropPhoenix · 04/12/2024 12:13

Do you work in the construction industry? The Building Safety Act requires companies to demonstrate competence to a far greater degree than used to be the case.

DreadPirateRobots · 04/12/2024 12:18

This kind of info is totally routine as part of a tender pack.

What exactly is your aim here? Because you won't be making any friends for yourself with your new overlords or your bosses.

SpeculativeHoumous · 04/12/2024 12:20

Why didn't you just give him your CV. What are you hiding?

DiamondGoldandSilver · 04/12/2024 12:22

OP, I think you are being really awkward about this. Surely it is a good thing that you are being included?

IlIlIlIlIlIlI · 04/12/2024 12:26

What makes you think it’s not legal?

He needs your information as part of a bid pack. He’s a lot more accommodating in the face of your refusal than most managers would be.

I really don’t get your view here- do you not want your company to win business?

OhBling · 04/12/2024 12:28

I think you are getting yourself into a twist about different things and lumping them together.

So, if you rissue is that he is going to pitch to potential clients claiming that you do x role, when you do not do x role and will never do x role, then that is an actual covnersation to be having with him, or someone more senior.

Separately, providing your CV or summary of your skills and experience as part of a pitching process is completely normal and it's beyond odd that you would refuse to provide this, not least because of course they already have it in some form from when you applied for the role.

Neighneigh · 04/12/2024 12:34

I might be on the wrong end of the stick but aren't they basically looking for a biography to submit with tender responses, to give a picture of the expertise that the company has? That's not a CV and it isn't to do with your actual role, it's more to do with demonstrating that the company you work for has the skills to fulfil the contract. Quite standard in bids and tender docs. Mine has quite often been included in pitches when I wouldn't necessarily be doing all or much of the work. Afraid I think you might be reacting to it in the wrong way by refusing.

allthatfalafel · 04/12/2024 12:35

Sounds suspect if he won't let you see it. Because what is he hiding?

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 04/12/2024 12:38

AlisonDonut · 04/12/2024 12:13

Honestly, do you want to carry on working there and win bids or not?

It doesnt sound like it. The OP's behaviour is straight out of "How to piss off your boss and get fired 101"

Providing a summary of your skills/quals and experience (otherwise known as a brief CV) is a completely normal part of a pitching process. Refusing to do so just marks you out as difficult.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 04/12/2024 12:39

allthatfalafel · 04/12/2024 12:35

Sounds suspect if he won't let you see it. Because what is he hiding?

Is it more suspect than the OP refusing to share a CV in the first place? What was she hiding?

INeedAnotherName · 04/12/2024 12:45

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 04/12/2024 12:39

Is it more suspect than the OP refusing to share a CV in the first place? What was she hiding?

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My MD last week said he would put me on the assessment under a job role that i don't have,

Did you miss that part? Even if the whole CV thing is legitimate surely making out she does a certain job when she doesn't would be fraudulent?

And why is he refusing to let her see it? Again, that implies it has false information on it and would be fraudulent for tender bids.

Redcrayons · 04/12/2024 12:50

I use to create CVs for staff members to submit for tender documents, as others have said it’s fairly standard practice in the bid process.

I’m sure there’s a bigger backstory here, but I can’t see why you would want your company to be on the back foot when tendering for new business.
In times of change within an organisation, it would not be wise to flag yourself as difficult and obstructive. If you grievance about pay and job titles, then address tat directly.

HooMoo · 04/12/2024 13:01

Another one who doesn’t understand your issue. It’s standard process for a tender pack. I’ve had to do it before and provide photo of myself with a short paragraph for potential clients to see.

DreadPirateRobots · 04/12/2024 13:02

INeedAnotherName · 04/12/2024 12:45

My MD last week said he would put me on the assessment under a job role that i don't have,

Did you miss that part? Even if the whole CV thing is legitimate surely making out she does a certain job when she doesn't would be fraudulent?

And why is he refusing to let her see it? Again, that implies it has false information on it and would be fraudulent for tender bids.

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Company stretches or puts a slant on the truth to win business shocker. It can't be that far from her actual role or they wouldn't have asked her to summarise her actual skills and experience to use. I very much doubt they're claiming she's e.g. a skilled m&a lawyer when she's actually a marketing manager or something.

GermanBite · 04/12/2024 13:06

This is normal op - I have a whole folder of CVs for tenders which focus on different types of experience/ skills I have.

You seem to have completely misunderstood what you were being asked to do. What level of seniority are you and have you been involved in a tender process before?

Hickory247 · 04/12/2024 13:08

My stupid project manager at my last company also requested the same, the client wanted everyone's CV's (part of some bid or something). We were all freelance so he submitted all the staff's cv's which he'd been sent by an agency (without name, address and personal phone number on as Agencies take these off because of GDPR) but because he'd lost mine he was given from the agency, he used the CV I gave him at my interview without my knowledge. Not only did he contravene GDPR he also never apologised, I was livid.

GermanBite · 04/12/2024 13:08

And the job title is probably a project/ contract role title rather than an actual job title.

Unless he's said you're qualified to do something which you aren't, he probably hasn't done anything wrong here.

BadSkiingMum · 04/12/2024 13:12

Interested to ask @Redcrayons and others, what should be the difference between a CV for tendering purposes and a CV for recruitment purposes please?

Slooodie359 · 04/12/2024 13:15

My employer prepares CV during promotions cycle, a standard format. They also use this if preparing a project team …. So there info available about skills & experience.

I think you need to re-frame this as just normal work process and not invasion or overstep of your rights.