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would you raise this or does this sound petty

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Cheshireicecream · 18/11/2024 09:14

I work as part of a 2 person team. colleague and I do identical work. over the last year, she did less and less. I am a workhorse and just cracked on with stuff that needed sorting and felt I do much more but wasn't too bothered. Anyhow, last week I decided to pull the figures from the system and I do about 4 times as much as she does (it's easily quantified, no idea why I didn't raise it before and why manager never raised it. I guess since the work gets done, nobody is checking). colleague is senior to me and earning much more which irks ms hugely given the backseat she has been taken all year
. Would you raise this and if you are a manager, what would you make of it. I worry I look anal an petty.

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Cheshireicecream · 18/11/2024 10:37

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 18/11/2024 10:33

@Cheshireicecream what is she doing while you are knocking your pan in?? why dont you just slow right down and only start a new task when she starts one? that way it will definitely come to the notice of the bosses! if you are not happy doing that then I suggest you look for another job before you bring it up with your manager

when in the office, she is often online or chatting to people. we work from home some days. I don't know what she does then.

Thanks for all the messages. Seems like a stupid idea after all to raise it. will just slow down and wait for things to get noted higher up.

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Cheshireicecream · 18/11/2024 10:41

Ok, so if you distribute the work yourself, why are you raising the distribution of work to management ?

if things don't get done or urgent, colleagues in other departments send chaser emails. I tend to get them mainly now as it got noted by other people that she is not responding to those emails. so they send them to me as they know stuff gets sorted.

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jolene7 · 18/11/2024 10:56

You seem like you dont actually want less work yourself and I wonder if you just want some recognition for your hard work which is completely understandable? Or do you want your colleague to be reprimanded/ humiliated in some way, and if so, why?
As others have said, you need to really think about what it is this is bringing up for you, what you REALLY want from this interaction and what your overall longer term goals are. I think this would help in your search for a new job too.
If you care to progress (you may not) this sort of attitude is really dangerous and I have seen so many people remain miserable, and unfulfilled with this head on. Do not worry about what other people are doing!!

Cheshireicecream · 18/11/2024 11:04

in part it's stressful getting a lot of chaser emails to get things done. Seems unfair that this is landing on my desk.

But you are right. I think I will slow down to her pace and take things easier esp as my company doesn't reward performance in any case. Things will get noted soon enough that way. It's my own stupidity for working hard. Never had this issue in a different role where my coworkers did so little so this is a good learning opportunity.

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MitochondriaUnited · 18/11/2024 11:06

What do you expect the see happening if you tell your boss?
It can’t be a promotion or a wage increase.
So what would you want to achieve?

IMustDoMoreExercise · 18/11/2024 11:07

I would just say tell her that if, say, 20 cases come in per day, that you will do 10 and she needs to do the other 10.

If you get chasers for one of her 10 then just tell the chaser that they need to chase her not you.

Cheshireicecream · 18/11/2024 11:10

IMustDoMoreExercise · 18/11/2024 11:07

I would just say tell her that if, say, 20 cases come in per day, that you will do 10 and she needs to do the other 10.

If you get chasers for one of her 10 then just tell the chaser that they need to chase her not you.

we had that convo but she says she is busy (which I know is not true). She does not action chasers. she just ignores them. I cannot tell her what to do. She doesn't take orders well and I am not her manager in any case.

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IMustDoMoreExercise · 18/11/2024 11:14

Cheshireicecream · 18/11/2024 11:10

we had that convo but she says she is busy (which I know is not true). She does not action chasers. she just ignores them. I cannot tell her what to do. She doesn't take orders well and I am not her manager in any case.

In which case, you do need to tell your manager that you are getting exhausted doing more than your share of the work and show them the report proving your point.

Unless she is friends with your manager, then you have nothing to lose. The manager might not do anything in which case you should look for another job.

She's probably got another job on the side and is dong that when "WFH".

PizzaNinja · 18/11/2024 11:34

I think I will slow down to her pace and take things easier esp as my company doesn't reward performance in any case. Things will get noted soon enough that way. It's my own stupidity for working hard. Never had this issue in a different role where my coworkers did so little so this is a good learning opportunity.

I think this is the worst thing you can do, it’s incredibly passive aggressive, and as someone who works hard, it’s going to make you (more) miserable in your job.

I think you should take those figures to your manager - and the fact that your colleague is ignoring ‘chaser’ emails - with 2 things you want from the meeting:

a/ a pay rise (even if you don’t get it, state your case for it)
b/ manager intervention to ensure a fairer distribution of workload. The manager doesn’t have to say you’ve complained, there may be ways they can mitigate direct blowback.

It is a bit pointless if you have a meeting with a manager just to have a moan, you do need to have some idea of what you want a resolution to be before you go in.

*edited to show what I was responding to.

MitochondriaUnited · 18/11/2024 11:43

You have the figures.
You need to decide if you’re going to wait until your yearly review or if you want to go and see your manager now.

In any way, the point should be ‘I’m really struggling with the work load atm. Everyone is sending me chasers and I simply can’t deal with all of them. I’m getting burnt out. I looked at how many cases I’m dealing with and this is what found’ hand docs with your numbers and your colleague. ‘I really need support there and a better balance in the workload’.

Then see what your manager is saying.

Fwiw not doing the work is going to be a very stressful experience for you if you’re used to always go the extra mile.
But also it could backfire when other departments are complaining you’re not answering chasers and it’s causing them problems.

TheSmallAssassin · 18/11/2024 12:05

If you are getting stressed, then that's the issue to speak to your manager about, and where your stats would come in handy. You are then letting them know there is a problem (you have too much to do) and a solution (a more equal split of work) and ask for help with putting the solution in place.

Do not just do less work, as others say it will make you look passive aggressive. You want to be considered to be someone who can help solve problems, not make more!

truegum81 · 18/11/2024 12:51

Cheshireicecream · 18/11/2024 10:13

  1. no raise this year as business not going well. line manager is managing a huge department. next to zero involvement with our team as we tend to get on with stuff and work gets done. Management is poor (but has its advantages not being under the microscope).

why does this have the bullet point saying 2023?

truegum81 · 18/11/2024 12:53

the colleague is not doing anything wrong!

No targets
No measurements
She and op simply go to inbox and select their task

so if Op is doing 4x more… no one is requiring that of her and she’s choosing to

maybe the quality of the colleagues work is superior

Cheshireicecream · 18/11/2024 12:55

truegum81 · 18/11/2024 12:53

the colleague is not doing anything wrong!

No targets
No measurements
She and op simply go to inbox and select their task

so if Op is doing 4x more… no one is requiring that of her and she’s choosing to

maybe the quality of the colleagues work is superior

her quality is not better. I will just take a back seat. I have been clearly very stupid going of all the responses here by working hard and responding to chaser emails for urgent cases. This has been rather sobering reading. I am really glad I asked!

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BrunetteHarpy · 18/11/2024 12:58

Cheshireicecream · 18/11/2024 12:55

her quality is not better. I will just take a back seat. I have been clearly very stupid going of all the responses here by working hard and responding to chaser emails for urgent cases. This has been rather sobering reading. I am really glad I asked!

I don’t understand why you seem to be taken aback by people pointing out that you’ve been doing yourself a huge disservice by silently working flat out to cover up the unreliability and laziness of a senior colleague with whom you’re supposed to share the workload 50/50?

Cheshireicecream · 18/11/2024 13:05

BrunetteHarpy · 18/11/2024 12:58

I don’t understand why you seem to be taken aback by people pointing out that you’ve been doing yourself a huge disservice by silently working flat out to cover up the unreliability and laziness of a senior colleague with whom you’re supposed to share the workload 50/50?

I am not taken aback. This has been sobering and eye opening. The consensus is not to bring it up as I brought it onto myself. Point taken. I just won't cover more than half of what is coming in and learn to say no to chasers or redirect me them to colleage. I really appreciate the responses. I mean that.

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bongsuhan · 18/11/2024 13:14

Cheshireicecream · 18/11/2024 13:05

I am not taken aback. This has been sobering and eye opening. The consensus is not to bring it up as I brought it onto myself. Point taken. I just won't cover more than half of what is coming in and learn to say no to chasers or redirect me them to colleage. I really appreciate the responses. I mean that.

I don't really think that the consensus is not to bring it up. Just that you need to know what you want from bringing it up before you do.

Enko · 18/11/2024 13:17

bongsuhan · 18/11/2024 13:14

I don't really think that the consensus is not to bring it up. Just that you need to know what you want from bringing it up before you do.

I agree with this. If anything I'd say that consensus is to speak w management.

Sounds frustrating op

IMustDoMoreExercise · 18/11/2024 13:30

bongsuhan · 18/11/2024 13:14

I don't really think that the consensus is not to bring it up. Just that you need to know what you want from bringing it up before you do.

Yes I agree with this. But to start with the op could start doing exactly 50% of the cases and then if complaints come in she can direct them to her colleague.

I'm sure it'll soon reach management anyway and then the op can produce her report and show exactly what is going on.

TheSmallAssassin · 18/11/2024 13:37

Cheshireicecream · 18/11/2024 13:05

I am not taken aback. This has been sobering and eye opening. The consensus is not to bring it up as I brought it onto myself. Point taken. I just won't cover more than half of what is coming in and learn to say no to chasers or redirect me them to colleage. I really appreciate the responses. I mean that.

I'd not be impressed if one of my staff went on a go slow instead of being proactive and coming to talk to me about it. There is nothing wrong with you doing more than your colleague, the problem is that you are bowing under the workload.

GinandGingerBeer · 18/11/2024 13:57

I disagree
You absolutely should raise it.
Taking the go slow approach won't help you.
How are you going to explain it if you're asked why your productivity has nose dived? 'Erm I did it to be stubborn as Janet isn't doing her bit" doesn't make you look good! And you are a good worker!
Make sure all the chaser emails go to the shared mailbox- redirect them but send out an email to tell staff not to send them to you personally.
Take your productivity data to your manager-
What do you want the outcome to be?
I bet if manager asked for a weekly report of cases actioned then her productivity would skyrocket. Problem solved!
(Assuming you really can't get a pay rise)

NowYouSee · 18/11/2024 14:07

PizzaNinja · 18/11/2024 11:34

I think I will slow down to her pace and take things easier esp as my company doesn't reward performance in any case. Things will get noted soon enough that way. It's my own stupidity for working hard. Never had this issue in a different role where my coworkers did so little so this is a good learning opportunity.

I think this is the worst thing you can do, it’s incredibly passive aggressive, and as someone who works hard, it’s going to make you (more) miserable in your job.

I think you should take those figures to your manager - and the fact that your colleague is ignoring ‘chaser’ emails - with 2 things you want from the meeting:

a/ a pay rise (even if you don’t get it, state your case for it)
b/ manager intervention to ensure a fairer distribution of workload. The manager doesn’t have to say you’ve complained, there may be ways they can mitigate direct blowback.

It is a bit pointless if you have a meeting with a manager just to have a moan, you do need to have some idea of what you want a resolution to be before you go in.

*edited to show what I was responding to.

Edited

I completely agree with this. Right now you have the high moral ground. Slow down to her speed you will lose that (hey I can underperform too!) plus the goodwill of people who can verify that you’re the only one responding to them.

truegum81 · 18/11/2024 15:02

You and she used to work at same pace but in last year her speed has deteriorated 4-fold

and it hasn’t been picked up by the business and in fact they gave her a pay rise 6 months ago!

so obviously the business is not particularly bothered about the level of production of this team for whatever reason

jolene7 · 18/11/2024 16:24

I don't understand why you can't attempt to resolve this with the colleague yourself? It's a 1 hour meeting max. Develop a process. "I'm getting stressed with the amount of follow ups I'm getting and realised I'm taking on 80% of the caseload. I propose we split it equally and i will redirect any follow ups for your cases to you. Im happy to allocate the cases in the mailbox".

truegum81 · 18/11/2024 16:25

jolene7 · 18/11/2024 16:24

I don't understand why you can't attempt to resolve this with the colleague yourself? It's a 1 hour meeting max. Develop a process. "I'm getting stressed with the amount of follow ups I'm getting and realised I'm taking on 80% of the caseload. I propose we split it equally and i will redirect any follow ups for your cases to you. Im happy to allocate the cases in the mailbox".

there is no case load
no targets
nothing is measured
they each just go to inbox and pull out a job