What to do?

[summertimessadness24]

I started a job only Monday and I hate it
I know it's early days and it's not that
I can't do the job I'm sure in time but the list is endless of why I hate it - lots of red flags

The girl I'm taking over and another girl are leaving and you can tell hate it and they've been very professional but anyway I have decided to go

My dilemma is I turned a job down for this job so I emailed them on the off chance preparing myself for a no or it's not available etc and asked if it's still available and explained my reasons why I went for this one and their response was lovely and basically I can start there ! But the start date will be in around a month as I've now missed the last intake

My question is -

What do I say to this new job?a question of when....

1/ i say how I feel but say I can stay and help where I can until I start my new job

2/ say nothing and stick it out until I get something

I can't afford to not work but reason why I'm
Leaning towards option 1 they want to do my DBS and haven't signed a contact yet as they said ' they need to spend some time writing one ' so I don't want to put them out when they can spend time finding someone else

It's an office manager role to it's very involved and pretty much the two ladies going run that office so I feel if I stay without saying anything they would be investing in me etc

But also I need to think of myself also

What does everyone think i should do?

Thank you for reading

You keep quiet. Then when you need to hand in your notice you do. If you're in your probation you can simply say sorry it's not working for me at any point.

I've only worked 2days and I've no contact

So they want to do my dbs today - it's expensive? Do I just let them do it?

They also want me to visit all
The other offices next week and the manager is taking me out 😢

It's family run and it's probably why I feel so bad

Making comments like ' mum and dad '

@summertimessadness24 ahhh nooo for me in my nearly 20 years - when a company says they are like family or make family references it's real red flag 🚩 territory.

That said if you say something they are likely to be so pissed off they mess with your pay etc.

I would wait until new job is confirmed and say you have a family emergency and unfortunately have to had in notice because of it. DBS aren't expensive in grand scheme of things.

LISTEN TO YOUR INSTINCTS

Why don't have a contract?

You don't even have a contract so technically you could just walk out...

Take the other job and listen to your instincts about this one being the wrong fit for you.

You're working without a contract? That worries me a lot. How do you know they're going to pay you? Definitely don't say anything when you're not protected at all, sticking it out and hoping you get a contract sorted that will allow you to leave with a week's notice under probation sounds like the best option.

To confirm it's my second day - I had to ask for my contract and they said ' they will be sorting it' I asked for an induction and they said there isn't one, only for the carers - it's a care company that's been established for over 50 yrs so I don't think they won't pay me

As in they have a reputation to look after
They are just 'flappy and unorganised'
But yes contract and onboarding / induction imo is needed!

Yup let them do it

Should they not have done the dbs before you started? I’ve worked in care for years and the dbs had to come back as clear before starting work.

Are they paying for the dbs? If so they will probably expect you to pay them back if you leave soon. But you could pay the extra to jeep it open (think it’s around £13 for the year). That way you have it for any future jobs and don’t have to wait for one.

DBS only costs around £50 - it’s not expensive.
But if you really hate it, could you join a temp agency for a few weeks while you’re waiting to start the other job?

Don't worry a dbs is cheap, tens of pounds not hundreds, and if you actually need one they should have got it before you started so that's more bad management from them!
I'd be really selfish here if you need the money, carry on as normal, tell them you love it and then a week before you need to start the new-new job say "oh gosh I'm so sorry, I need to move to a totally new area immediately because my family member is ill, so sorry to let you down" and work a weeks notice whilst holding up the pretence.
It's a bit brutal and unethical but a "family company" will be a nightmare if you tell the truth and could be very vindictive. If you have no contract then there's no contractual notice period and no contractual pay (unless perhaps you have the agreed rate on email) as you're brand new then I can see a world where they really try hard to screw you. It's a pain for a company and will cost them to replace you, but such is running a business and I'm sure they make plenty of money if it's a successful company. They wouldn't think twice about letting you go very swiftly if they felt you weren't working out on week one!

I would never start (or even formally accept) a role without a contract. Also if you need a DBS for your job and they haven’t done it yet that’s a huge worry.

I would just leave (as without a contract you have no idea what terms you’re actually working to). But don’t start the next role without a contract.

Exactly this. Start at the other place, let current place pay for dbs. Stay there to get paid and tell them when you need to just to get paid for what you’ve done. Although this is all a bit ropey without a contract is t it?

As the others have said, carry on. You don’t owe them anything other than the work you end up paid for.

I would never work for another family business again. So many boundaries crossed and unprofessional behaviour.

Trust your instincts. I knew on my first day in a previous job that I’d made a mistake and I wish I’d walked away immediately. However I stuck it out for nearly a year and the effect on my mental health was severe.

At the moment you don’t have a contract so you can just walk away with no consequence. You haven’t been given any terms and conditions such as a notice
period, so they can’t hold you to anything. If you need the money before you start the new job, I would wait, say nothing, then two weeks before your start date give them notice. Two weeks is a standard notice period. Don’t worry about the DBS - in a company like the one you’re working for, they will have a system set up for multiple applications that makes it very cheap for them to apply for a check. They should have done this before you started anyway.

They sound disorganised and chaotic and if other employees are unhappy then getting out now is absolutely the right thing to do. Don’t waste any time feeling bad. The company wouldn’t hesitate for a minute to let you go if they no longer had any use for you. Too many people cause themselves harm over a sense of duty and loyalty to an employer who ultimately will not treat them with anywhere near the same kindness or respect. Do what makes you happy and don’t give them a second thought.

I understand you feel bad, but this is a business. They wouldn't think twice about sacking you if it wasn't profitable for them to continue hiring you.

They will do the best thing for their business and you should do the best thing for you.

My dilemma is I turned a job down for this job so I emailed them on the off chance preparing myself for a no or it's not available etc and asked if it's still available and explained my reasons why I went for this one and their response was lovely and basically I can start there ! But the start date will be in around a month as I've now missed the last intake

Re: your current job where you've only been there a week, statutory notice is 1 week either way

Re: the new new job, if they've said you can start there but not for another month, can't they send you the job offer in principle, pending them doing your DBS successfully, which takes about 14 days. This will then give you certainty of the new job and the start date and once you have that in hand you can let the current employer know you're leaving and say your leaving date is xxx and you'd be happy to stay with them up to when you leave. From the date you tell them, they need to give you at least 1 week as the minimum in law, but probably more if they want you a week or two longer.

you've started the job but they haven't done a dbs yet? What kind of set up is this

Sounds dodgy. HR person here and they shouldn't have you join without a contract. I would just stay and then give notice in your 3rd week saying its not for you. Its not that uncommon to leave witjin probation if you don't like it.

I worked as a carer a few years ago and if I'd left within 6 months I would have had to repay the costs. It wouldn't have been a massive amount, about £50. I wouldn't worry about it.

I work in a school (non teaching role) and have got a new job in a different school which I’ll be starting in September.

i haven’t yet got a contract from the new position yet, but I’ve already paid £50 (and been reimbursed by the new school) for my DBS check. I’m surprised they didn’t carry this out before they had you start work. I wouldn’t be allowed to start without having it in place.

ive casually told my immediate manager that I’ve been offered another position but haven’t officially handed my notice in, and won’t until I have signed a contract with the new school. Im going in to go through the contract and sign it in a couple of weeks.

id say just carry on as you as for now. Get things set up and ready to go with the new job. Get a contract from them with a confirmed start date, and once you have that, make sure you give the right amount of notice to your current role. Although with no contract currently in place I’m not sure they have a leg to stand on regarding how much notice you give. But once you have the other job confirmed and signed, just give your notice. Hopefully your current company won’t be difficult. But you owe them nothing. The fact that 2 employees are leaving says something. The fact they’ve hired you without you having cleared DBS, says something, and the fact you don’t have a contract says something! Sometimes you have to listen to what your gut is telling you!

good luck!

Carry on it your job. Look for others, try and salvage the other one.

When you have a new job to go to, resign as usual, using the appropriate process for whether you are still in the probation period or not.

red flag is that you work for a care company and they didn’t get your dbs in place before starting. Do you have contact with vulnerable people as they must ensure you aren’t left alone with them to protect you.

also a dbs isn’t that expensive as I have one myself. It cost £60 and then is £13 a year on the update service. I imagine companies get a cheaper rate.

keep one eye on your start date and notice period and make sure they match.