HR investigations

[Mamof2g]

Hello
so I’m currently signed off sick with a throat infection and work have seen me outside of my home taking my son to his rugby match, they have now launched an investigation and could end up in dismissal. A colleague videoed me and has since shared this where I work. Work have also announced to everyone that I’m under investigation. Are they allowed to do this? Many thanks

Well said. Minus the due respect.

Like I said, delightful people, full of well-deserved professional pride.

Like I said, delightful people, full of well-deserved professional pride.

Dear me, go and watch a box set or something.

You truly are a dinosaur. This attitude went out of date in the last century!

@Mamof2g even more reason to get legal advice. I can't see you feel ing safe working at that company again & you need to protect your future and your good name. The company are clearly tarnishing your name and potentially your future employment opportunities (depending on how tight knit your industry is...... word spreads so quickly & unfortunatly rumours stick and can hurt)

@SurprisedWithAHorse able to confirm that you are correct while taking offence that you're correct

I don’t think anyone said you were correct? And just to confirm, you’re not.

Do you think I'm going to be offended by an HR person acting like an HR person? You know the story of the scorpion and the frog, right?

That colleague is a piece of shit.

Op tbh you sound like you have enough evidence so I wouldn't worry.

Announcing it to all the staff is awful, not sure if it's unlawful though.

As many have said, being ill doesn't stop you from parenting. Can't count the amount of times I've had to drag myself to do mum duties whilst also feeling like shit.

30 days???!!!

I said that HR exists to protect the company while pretending they're there to protect you. Our HR lovely confirmed that HR is indeed there to protect the company (and any employee protection is incidental because, as before, they're actually looking out for litigation - ie, protecting the company) while insulting me for saying that HR is there to protect the company.

HR people <shrugs>. Don't ask me, I've no idea why anyone would do it.

There was nothing wrong with that post. It was a generalised response.

It's fine though. I work in HR, I'm used dealing with a certain type of person (if I am allowed to say that!) so it's water off a duck's back.

Thankfully I get 6 months full sick pay, and by no means do I want to be off ill with this illness, I’d much rather be fit and well. Thank you for all your advice Iv just compiled an email to them, definitely feel stressed and anxious over this tho.

I work in HR

That is abundantly obvious. Commiserations.

the video has been shared around the staff and they are all aware that I am under HR disciplinary investigation.

You don't need to be an employment law expert to know that that is deeply unprofessional and wrong. Their investigations should be kept confidential, obviously.* *

Op - never trust a mumsnet 'expert', it is normally based on opinion, or what they think is fair, or what happens in their workplace (which could very well be wrong), or a whim.

ACAS us your best bet.

For armchair 'experts', I am just going to leave this here. It is about an employee who was unfairly dismissed, after the tribunal found that she was fit to work at one workplace, at the same time as being on sick leave for another job. It's not that straightforward.
https://www.nelsonslaw.co.uk/second-job-sick-leave-employee-unfairly-dismissed/

I'm sorry but you're so ill you cannot work,leaving colleagues to cover for you yet can go out to a rugby match? If you can drag yourself out,you can get into work.
If you were atrociously ill, you would not have taken your son out and would have got someone else to do or apologised and said would have to miss match. If you can develop a bit of stoicism for your child's leisure activities ,then you can do so for the person who gives you a living and your colleagues.
As for the co-worker,seeing a colleague out and about who clearly shirking is bound to make them aggreaved. There is clearly more to this though as you would not be under investigation if this were a one off or were considered a valuable and productive employee. Your boss would have contacted you fir your version of events.
Anyone can get a sicknote and Dr's have zero interest in the wider implications of enabling the workshy .
When folk pull sickies,it affects businesses and endangers the livelihoods of others who actually have a work ethic.

Seriously shut up.

Quite the empath, aren't you?

There is clearly more to this though as you would not be under investigation

You're very trusting of companies, HR and nosy colleagues, aren't you?

I suppose there's no need for an investigation to be completed if the very fact it's started automatically means the subject must be guilty of wrongdoing.

I don't need your commiserations. I love my work and I am very good at it too. Any organisation would be damn lucky to have me.

You can take your goading elsewhere. I'm not wasting another second on you.

@ZadocPDederick yes it is a long time, however doctors have signed me off from work, Iv had steroids super strong antibiotics so yes Iv been diagnosed, Iv ended up in out of hours, a&e and also seen my gp, and I’m due a phone consultation next week too.

@Feraldogmum taking her son to his junior rugby match is not "going to a rugby match" like a jolly up to Twickenham or something. Going out for an hour, plonking yourself in a chair drugged up on lemsip and cough sweets so your son can play rugby doesn't mean you're fit to work. An employed position pays a lot less well than an equivalent self employed position, and the trade-off is that they will make sure you get paid if you're too ill to work - well, a decent employer will. If she was swinging the lead I'd agree with you, but in the absence of evidence to the contrary this forum breaks down if we don't assume posters are posting truthfully in good faith.

OP - If there is truth to this when you come back, go full grievance guns blazing that it has been shared around that you're being investigated and that the colleague has shown the video to colleagues and external people.

interested to hear what ACAS have to say - it's absolutely bonkers the whole thing - if someone did something like this to someone on my team I would be having a disciplinary with THEM not you.

@endofthelinefinally

how on earth can you work in occupational health and not understand why HR request Occupational health/medical reports? It’s not because we’re being a bit nosy 😆