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HR investigations

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Mamof2g · 20/09/2023 09:29

Hello
so I’m currently signed off sick with a throat infection and work have seen me outside of my home taking my son to his rugby match, they have now launched an investigation and could end up in dismissal. A colleague videoed me and has since shared this where I work. Work have also announced to everyone that I’m under investigation. Are they allowed to do this? Many thanks

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Mamof2g · 30/10/2023 09:41

@DeireadhFomhair unfortunately no apology from them, and your right it’s definitely not something I should have been put through.

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Codlingmoths · 30/10/2023 09:44

Oh well done! Now as soon as you are properly better go get another job, give them minimum notice period hopefully in a busy period and timed so your manager has to cancel their holidays

TrafficBlocking · 30/10/2023 09:52

Great news, I'm glad you did this and kept on. They had absolutely no right, too many employers get away with this type of behaviour too often. Well done op, I hope you treat yourself

Newestname002 · 30/10/2023 10:08

@Mamof2g

I'm glad you've had this outcome OP. however, I don't think your employer deserves you so, given the appalling way you've been treated, may wish to consider seeing if you can get a job somewhere else. In the meantime maybe "quiet quit" - ie doing your job according to the contracted hours you are paid for, to the best of your ability until you are able to leave.

I don't feel I could ever feel the same about these employers or the rat who video'd you or those who tried to trash your personal and professional reputation. 🌹

Original poster
Mamof2g · 30/10/2023 10:30

I am 100% looking for a new job, hopefully with people who are trustworthy, thank
you all for you help and support

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Wexone · 30/10/2023 10:43

Well-done excellent news. no way though you should have been put through that stress and torture. I do hope you will look for a new job that deserves you

billybear · 30/10/2023 11:07

well done,2 fingers to them what a saga,agree you need to look for a new job with people who actually respect you well done

SurprisedWithAHorse · 30/10/2023 11:10

Great news, OP, well done. Fucking HR.

Sisterpita · 30/10/2023 11:49

Well done @Mamof2g, what have they done about the GDPR breach?

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 30/10/2023 12:31

Well done OP! Flowers

Emotionalsupportviper · 30/10/2023 12:31

Sisterpita · 30/10/2023 11:49

Well done @Mamof2g, what have they done about the GDPR breach?

I was going to ask the same.

Not only was it totally inappropriate to broadcast your business within the workplace, but surely effectively it was slanderous to tell people outside - mud can stick, and they seem to have thrown a lot of it.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 30/10/2023 16:36

Well done OP. Your colleague was an utter snake.

Everanewbie · 30/10/2023 16:44

Excellent OP. Its been expunged from your record. Now it depends on how far you want to take this, and how much you see yourself wanting to stay and progress. Is the matter being closed enough for you? You'd have every right to pursue a grievance and seek an apology and explore what GDPR rules have been broken and if you should be compensated etc.

ZadocPDederick · 31/10/2023 09:51

Excellent news. I hope whoever dealt with the appeal spelt out just how and why the original finding was bollocks?

Taketurn · 31/10/2023 10:14

Awesome OP. Good job for not backing down. These companies need to do better. I'd be putting in a complaint for the video thing to be honest. That was wild.

letthemalldoone · 31/10/2023 12:15

Mamof2g · 30/10/2023 09:32

Well Iv won, I appealed and they overturned the warning,

Good, and so they should have.

I think you should take a Dignity at Work case, and that is not advice I give lightly.

letthemalldoone · 31/10/2023 12:16

SurprisedWithAHorse · 30/10/2023 11:10

Great news, OP, well done. Fucking HR.

There will also have been an HR rep on the appeal panel....

SurprisedWithAHorse · 01/11/2023 23:09

letthemalldoone · 31/10/2023 12:16

There will also have been an HR rep on the appeal panel....

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Should hope so. They fucked up and OP took the heat. Least they could do.

HR isn't your friend. It's there to protect the company, not you. This doesn't mean they will protect you too, as shown by this example. It means they will make sure the company does what it wants to do in such a way that it doesn't get into trouble for it. If the company is Henry VIII, HR is Thomas Cromwell. It's not your friend just because it's trying to keep the firm out of trouble.

Despite what angry and abusive HR professionals have made up on this thread, I've never been in trouble at work, suspended, managed out, fired, put on a performance plan or anything like that. I did once quit a truly shit job two weeks in and HR fucked up every bit of paperwork it could; luckily it didn't affect the job I got the next week. And I've had HR harass me about legitimate sick leave, with a medical note, pretending that it just wanted to be supportive. It's the duplicity that gets me.

I've just worked in a number of places and it's the same absolutely everywhere. Their job is to protect the company while pretending they're protecting you. The consequences are inevitable.

Had no idea it was controversial, to be honest. Management and Human Remains, who on earth thinks they're widely considered to be blessings of modern life?

Sisterpita · 02/11/2023 09:17

@SurprisedWithAHorse You are correct HRs role is to manage risk for their employer. In this case HR should be doing things that also help the op . For example making sure everything is kept confidential and compliant with GDPR, following their grievance and discipline policies to the letter e.g. independent investigator, confidentiality, advising on sick absence policy etc. Taking action against managers for breach of GDPR etc.

As HR many times I have had to step in to the benefit of employees because management have well and truly fucked up.

SurprisedWithAHorse · 02/11/2023 09:28

Sisterpita · 02/11/2023 09:17

@SurprisedWithAHorse You are correct HRs role is to manage risk for their employer. In this case HR should be doing things that also help the op . For example making sure everything is kept confidential and compliant with GDPR, following their grievance and discipline policies to the letter e.g. independent investigator, confidentiality, advising on sick absence policy etc. Taking action against managers for breach of GDPR etc.

As HR many times I have had to step in to the benefit of employees because management have well and truly fucked up.

Please stop justifying yourself to me. You're not helping the employees because management fucked them over, you're helping them because in so doing it, management might fuck the company over.

It's ok, we know what the job's for and we accept it's a part of modern life. Just don't expect us to like or admire it!

youngones1 · 02/11/2023 09:30

I would look for another job.

Dontjudgeme101 · 02/11/2023 09:30

Excellent news op. 💐💐💐

Sisterpita · 02/11/2023 09:46

@SurprisedWithAHorse really condemning a whole profession. Like every profession there are good, competent and poor practitioners. There are many threads, like this one, where HR professionals have provided advice to posters where there is no benefit to them or their employer.

As I once pointed out to a very senior manager who dismissively said if HR disappeared for 3 months no one would notice, .you would when no one got paid!

SurprisedWithAHorse · 02/11/2023 10:00

Sisterpita · 02/11/2023 09:46

@SurprisedWithAHorse really condemning a whole profession. Like every profession there are good, competent and poor practitioners. There are many threads, like this one, where HR professionals have provided advice to posters where there is no benefit to them or their employer.

As I once pointed out to a very senior manager who dismissively said if HR disappeared for 3 months no one would notice, .you would when no one got paid!

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really condemning a whole profession.

Hey, you noticed.

I am really sorry that you didn't realise that a profession involving knowing everything about other people and making sure the company does what it wants without getting into trouble isn't generally considered to be Santa Claus by the rest of the organisation.

HR annoys us, management annoys us. If you're secure and fulfilled in your profession, this shouldn't annoy you.

Sisterpita · 02/11/2023 10:05

@SurprisedWithAHorse trust me, you would miss us if we were not there.