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Sexual harassment at New job. I want to report but I'm soo scared.

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Anonymousismyname · 19/09/2023 01:15

I'm in a new job and been training at different locations. Our store will be opening soon and I have met many colleagues who I will be working with at that store.

Today I recieved training from a guy who I will be working with at my permanent store.
(Baring in mind I will be one of his managers)

He seemed casual and overall a decent friendly person with his mannerisms, in his approach to training me on a certain area which he is responsible for.

As colleagues do when you try to establish a rapport with one another you engage in conversations, you can discuss at times personal questions.

(literally beating myself up for even answering)

Personal questions such as what's your race, born in this country, are you married/dating/kids.

These questions have never been a problem for me...or lead to events that I experienced today.

I guess the red flags were clear now that I think about.

Asking if we could go out for drinks sometime.
I said maybe, idk we just met

He asked where I lived? Do I live alone? Can he come over.

i said No! I just met you, we are work colleagues, we dont know eachother.

i said inviting anyone into your home is personal, you dont let anyone just come and enter your home, it's a place where you invite friends and family and we are work colleagues who just met. We don't have any relationship for that to occur. I ended it with my home is my safe place and not everyone is welcome there.

Service had slowed down and I wanted to go for a cigarrette break.

He said hed show me and come with me. I assumed he smoked.

He didn't. He doesn't.

Whilst outside he kept telling me he loved my skin and kept trying to touch my face (at times he was) which made me feel awkward.

I just kept either stepping back or moving my face or head away. I felt uncomfortable, uneasy but the simplest thing of saying fuck off immediately didn't even come out my mouth.
(Feel stupid that I didnt say fuck off. Stop it straight away.)

Whether this is stupid to say. But I had an illogical reasoning that. He's born in India, maybe they do things differently there, but over here that's innapropriate.

I have a beauty spot above my lip.

He touched and stroked it above my lip asking me what it was.

I moved his hand away and said a beauty spot.

He then said I want to kiss you. Come her give me a kiss and forcibly grabbed me closer, grabbed my face and tried to lock my face on to his so he could kiss me.

I felt so repulsed, uncomfortable I tried pushing him back and getting him off me and he responded with force to keep me locked on him. I kept turning my face.

It literally felt like a tug of war with me trying to turn my body away and him trying to turn it back to him.

I eventually got him off me.

I told him I don't want to kiss you. I don't know you. I don't like you like that.

Stupid me tried to keep it casual again and just smoke my cigarretes.

I didn't even want to give that much eye contact at that point, looking up down all around, beside him, behind him was all I could do.

He then asked me would I go on a date with him.

I said No, I'm not interested in you or anyone.
I don't want to date.

I was about to finish my cigarrette to go in.

As I turned to go in he grabbed my arm.

He again asked for a kiss.
Kept telling me to come on just one. Give me a kiss.

I said No. REPEATEDLY!

I just wanted him to stop and for me to go back in as all other other colleagues were inside.

I wanted to be around other colleagues and have some sense of safety than be alone with him.

As being alone with him, with no one around lead to this.

He then asked for a hug.
I shouldn't have, but I just hugged him to leave me alone.
More like I let him hug and squeeze me and I patted his back.

I acted so calmly as I hugged him as if everything was normal and that I didnt feel violated by him.

These situations can be so hard to navigate as a woman. Thought i was stronger thatn this.

I've opened my mouth before but never experienced anything like this in a work environment....

He wanted to hold me close.

I know I shouldn't have and I feel so sick and ashamed that I hugged him. Not sure how many people will understand this situation.
I've experienced things like this before and it's like everything can truly go out the window.

After that hug I thought it would be over. I had a slight sense of relief.

As I turned my back to him to walk in.

He grabbed me from behind and I was in-between his arms. STUCK.

Again he was asking for a kiss.
I kept telling him no.
I begged for him to let go of me and repeatedly said I'm uncomfortable, your making me feel uncomfortable, let go, i want to go inside, get off.

This did not persuade him.

It was when we heard another female manager basically sort of call us and say something along the lines of there you are come in. My mind was in fight or flight mode, so confused as to what was happening I can't remember her exact words.
That's when he let go. As the store door to the smoking area was open.

( My chest feels so heavy writing this. I deep down want to cry. But haven't even allowed myself to.)

He went straight in.

I don't even know if she was aware or heard me or how grateful I was.

I felt rescued for that short time.

As I went in I said to her thank you.

Don't know if she knew what I meant by it.
But I fucking meant it! Thank you!!

She walked on to another area.

I just stood there for about a minute or two.
I was in shock, could feel my eyes welling up. I felt heavy so confused.

I told myself I can't cry.
I can't make a fuss.
It's a new job.
I'm on probabtion.
He said he was good friends with the assistant manager above me.
I still have to go back in and do training with him.
My manager wasn't in for me to say anything.
(I could of called, but that solution wasn't in my head at the time.)

Someone senior asked me if I was OK, any problems... and my face said yes but I said no it's okay, I'm alright I'm a big girl and laughed it off.

I reallu couldnt comprehend or process what had just happened. Even now I don't Hinksey I fully can.

I am doing a training segment with him again tomorrow I believe too. Well o definitely know he's going to be in tomorrow/ meaning today.

Anyways as i went in I took a breather... and I'm sad to admit it, I done what I said I wouldn't do ever again.

Brush it off like nothing happened.

I continued to act normal around him. (Well try atleast)
As if it was nothing.
As if all of that did not happen at all.

Later I had to be shown where to get certain things upstairs.

Alone with him again.

I kept my distance going up the stairs and upstairs by being a couple paces behind.

We got what was needed.
He carried it.
Some point on the stairs he put it done on a landing(there's like 3 flights of stairs).

He leaned on one side.

I decided to just pick it up and make my way down the stairs.

I took about 3-4 steps on the stairs going down and again he grabbed me from behind and was trying to wrestle me for the bag.

Telling me no he will do it.

I can't explain how worried I was with a heavy item in my hands going down stairs with a guy whose big grabbing me from behind, trying to make me let go of the bag while in movement going down the stairs.

I could of easily lost my balance.

I told him don't do that, let go, I can do it, he persisted i shouldnt and he would.

I ended up saying okok just to get him off and gave him the bag.

I told him that was dangerous, I was going down the stairs, i could of fell.Don't do that ever again.

He was told to go on lunch break soon after, when we was back downstairs.

For the rest of the day I acted as normal as can be around him, so no one would be none the wiser to what I experienced during the shift.

I was relieved that when he went on his lunch I worked and spoke with many other people.

Deep down I want to report.
But I'm scared to.
Or to discuss it with my manager for him to just have a word with him.

... I really don't know what to do.

Alot of the people I work with are asian, some are born here others from India studying over here.

They talk a lot in their language which is OK, but so much so it's segregating but that doesn't affect me as much.

I try and engage with all when I can.

It may sound silly, or maybe im thjnkjng this because im honestly so overwhelmed, i dont want to loose my new job, been working so hard in my life to even get such a higher position at a workplace, that i feel thar if i report this or mention this to my manager( as me and him are suppossed to work at the same store) will jeoporadise my job. Ill be told i failed probabtion.

Or just backlash from everybody I work with.

You may not understand there language but it is always damn evident when they are talking/ mention or laughing at somebody.

Sorry for long rant but, i'm physically hurting in my chest from this, the anxiety, havent even told family yet. I don't know how they would respond either.
I'm literally in mental anguish which is having affects on my body already.

PLEASE ADVICE.

OP posts:
leamington66 · 19/09/2023 01:18

Please please report it. Your employer will support you and this behaviour has to be stopped

Anonymousismyname · 19/09/2023 01:30

I'm honestly scared of being scrutinised!

i dont know how women have had to deal with this in the workplace.

from previous experiences of sexual assault, the emotional turmoil of people putting their input and jot believing you or putting their two centts in is emotionally draining and a lot to push through.

I brushed it off, ignored it, for that I feel so guilty.

( i know if i didnt, i would of cried, walked out my job, felt severly embarressed by people knowing instantly as im new)

I continued to talk to him casually, make jokes with him, be polite.

I know I shouldn't have.

I feel like it's my fault.
I feel like I'll be scrutinised and blamed eventhough I know I done nothing wrong.
Tried to manage the situation as best as I could in that moment.

I don't want to be scene as making a problem. Being a problem. Being ' the problem'.

OP posts:
Benchpress · 19/09/2023 01:43

sorry but you’re a manager. It’s your job to report this and stamp out this behaviour. You might not care, but the next woman who works under you will. You have a duty of care to everyone, not just yourself

CheekyHobson · 19/09/2023 01:44

I know you don’t want to report because of fear of losing your job but look at the stress it’s causing you already.

You have to report. Both to work and the police.

If they take you seriously, he will be fired immediately. It’s not harassment, it’s assault. What he has done is illegal and you don’t need your workplace to agree. The police can handle it, but you would be wise to tell your workplace too.

If they don’t take you seriously and you get fired, you know this is a bad, unsupportive workplace and you would not thrive there anyway.

You have nothing real to lose by reporting.

Duckingella · 19/09/2023 01:50

This isn't just a HR matter it's also a police matter;he assaulted you and is a disgusting sexual predator.

You owe it to yourself to keep yourself safe from him and I can guarantee the grabby will have done this before to someone else.

GeorgiaGirl52 · 19/09/2023 02:00

You are not his first victim. He has done this before and the women kept quiet and now here you are. Don't fail the next woman. Report to the management and say if he isn't fired immediately you will report to the police.
Also, practice using your voice. There were people around you. When anyone does anything you don't want and doesn't stop when you say "stop" then you YELL - "STOP". KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF ME! He doesn't want attention from others, so make sure there is attention.
I taught this technique to 8-year olds in personal safety classes at school. We practiced screaming "STOP. YOU'RE A STRANGER. HELP POLICE." Taught this to both boys and girls. It works.

FamBae · 19/09/2023 02:03

It's not your fault. You have two choices report it to your manager and say you want it reporting to the HR department, or not report it and spend every working day scared he will grab you again. His behaviour is unacceptable, you say you work in a store, that will be opening soon so I'm guessing that it is a well known chain, they will take this very seriously. You are going to be his manager so you really must stop him. What will you do if he does this to another colleague that you are responsible for, how as her manager can you protect her if you won't protect yourself. Do not mention race when you report it, it is not relevant. If you feel you would be more comfortable talking to a woman go to the female manager that asked if you were OK today. If they do not take this very very seriously escalate it or go to Acas. I used to work in HR for a large chain of supermarkets so I have a good idea of how seriously a reputable company will deal with this. Sending big hugs.

MsMcGonagall · 19/09/2023 02:07

stop beating yourself up, as well as fight or fight there is the freeze response - and even beyond that a response of placating and politeness, these responses are to keep us safe by de-escalating, because we know men can be dangerous to us.

So your responses are all entirely understandable to this harassment and assault.

You cannot work with him, you cannot continue, unfortunately, as if nothing happened. Think of an analogy of him hitting your car. Even if you were in a hurry on your journey, you have to stop and sort it out, you have to say, something happened.

Please insist on telling a manager tomorrow. Also as part of that I think you need to insist that you are never in the same room/ space with him again, especially not alone, that is if they are not suspending him immediately for gross misconduct.

You could consider police too.

Benchpress · 19/09/2023 02:26

Also men like this don’t behave like this with every woman, he sussed you’d react in this manner and the other manager would not. Maybe worth exploring why with a counsellor? He knows his behaviour is wrong. But how did he know you would be scared of speaking up?

saythatagaintome · 19/09/2023 02:52

So if you don’t report … he rapes you next? What do you want to hear, OP? Great managers are leaders.

RosaCaramella · 19/09/2023 03:22

Please report what he has done to you to your line manager or HR as soon as you are able to. Silence is how predators get away with it and keep doing it.
The next time he grabs you, scream for help. None of this is your fault.

Owlcat42 · 19/09/2023 03:28

Be brave and do something about this straight away for your own personal safety and that of other women working with this man. However much you love the job you can't put up with this behaviour which will only get worse. Tell your managers (also tell your friends/family what's going on, the less silence there is around his behaviour the less power he has).

Write your account down if it's easier. Say that the behaviour you've experienced is unacceptable. Ask your managers if there's CCTV. And ask what the policy is on sexual harassment. Show them and this man that you mean business,

You can make it clear when you talk to them that you value your job and are excited about working for this company. But DO NOT be apologetic about the situation. This man is a creep! He's acted in a vile way and is counting on you keeping quiet. Don't fall for it.

Sparklybutold · 19/09/2023 03:38

He has both sexually and psychological abused you. He is a dangerous man. Please report. Nothing you did (or didn't do) is your fault. There is enough here to go to the police with - but I understand this is not easy at all. I really hope you have people you can lean on for support.

snackprovidersupreme · 19/09/2023 04:15

Please please report. Are you in the UK? This is a sexual assault and the police would take this very seriously. Your reaction is totally normal, so please don't feel so burdened about trying to act cool/relaxed. And please make sure this man isn't alone with you or other women at work....

I'm so sorry this happened to you.

floofbag · 19/09/2023 04:23

See if there is cctv anywhere ? Then you Have facts , I had no clue some men still behave like this ! So shocking , you poor thing, you must have been so scared !

Just report him, he sounds so dangerous !

curaçao · 19/09/2023 04:46

Report. there may well be cctv to back up your story

Viviennemary · 19/09/2023 04:51

Of course you need to report this. There may well be cctv to back you up. Can't imagine this will have been the first time he has done this.

user1492757084 · 19/09/2023 04:56

Report .. and do so ASAP.

In the mean time don't give the guy any identifying information about where you live or how you get home.
Ask for someone to accompany you home if you think he could follow you.
The man is a pest and no one should ever have to put up with him at their work place.

Summerslimtime · 19/09/2023 05:22

HR and the police. That's fucking horrific. I've no doubt at all that his behaviour will escalate. Can you copy and paste your op into a word document?

Summerslimtime · 19/09/2023 05:23

Not even sure it's 'only' sexual harassment...

Roselilly36 · 19/09/2023 05:26

Report it, why would you not?

Tlolljs · 19/09/2023 05:36

Like others have said report him. I’ll bet there is cctv too. Hope you’re ok. Sounds like a reasonably big company if you have been training at several locations and are opening up a new branch.

everythingthelighttouches · 19/09/2023 05:50

what a horrific ordeal you have been through (and it was yesterday if I read correctly?)

Your response was entirely reasonable and normal.

His behaviour is so far beyond normal. It is illegal. It is also gross misconduct.

I’m so impressed that you have already been able to write this down in this anonymous forum. This is such a great first step.

Please, please report this right now via email to your line manager and some very senior people at the company (it sounds like a big company with multiple stores?)

They will have to act. You have witnesses on your side so this is the perfect time. Someone already noticed you were upset and I’d be amazed if the woman who called you in didn’t notice something was up.

There may be cc tv footage to support your case but time is of the essence.

I say email because it may be difficult in the morning to get the space alone to mention this.

Right now you are safe in your room and you can write this down.

I’d write an email title as “Urgent- Confidential”

I would let them know you have been assaulted at work and are thinking of going to the police.

I would not mention race at all. Irrelevant.

Absolutelydo not go back on this training tomorrow if he is going to be there. You don’t ever need to be around him again.

They will be able to make it possible for you to complete training another time and it would be illegal for them to discriminate against you and your progression in your job because of this.

You have already shown us, complete strangers on an Internet forum, that you are an intelligent, articulate person. You can do this, though it may be the hardest thing you have ever done in your life.

TrainTrooper · 19/09/2023 06:44

If it is in a store there is most likely CCTV to back up your side of the story. Please report. You will be his manager.. how would you deal with this in a few months when another woman comes to you with the same happenings?

FarEast · 19/09/2023 07:29

This is sexual harassment, and actually, it's sexual assault. If he's doing it to you, he's doing it to other women. What if he tried this with customers.

You are the manager - report upwards.

And get moving on getting him sacked.

The problem is, we women are trained (conditioned) from birth to be "nice," to be "polite," to respond to people even when they massively overstep the polite, kind, nice boundaries as this man has done.

He is not safe to have in a workplace.

Can you use this thread to rehearse what you'll do & say next time this man tries to harass and abuse you? We can help you work out some quick responses.

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