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Would you re-apply for a job?

35 replies

BunnyMum2000 · 04/08/2023 18:48

I job recently came up that seemed to a perfect fit for me - I met all the qualifications and experience criteria - but I didn’t even get an interview :(

it’s just been re-advertised.

would I be bonkers to re-apply.
I’m thinking of actually listing their criteria, and showing how I meet in (in a cover letter)

I kind of feel a bit embarrassed when they’ve already rejected me once …. Do I swallow my pride and try again, or just accept that they don't want me for whatever reason?

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Eudaimonia5 · 04/08/2023 18:50

Did you not do that the first time you applied? If not then yes, reapply! You probably didn't show how you fit the person spec and that's why you didn't get an interview

HundredMilesAnHour · 04/08/2023 18:50

I’m thinking of actually listing their criteria, and showing how I meet in (in a cover letter)

Didn't you do this the first time?

swanling · 04/08/2023 19:03

Does it say anything about previous applicants? Some places will bin applications if the person was rejected within last 6 months, for example.

How did you apply the first time?

BunnyMum2000 · 04/08/2023 19:03

I didn’t bullet point item by item no, I guess it was more general

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BunnyMum2000 · 04/08/2023 19:11

swanling · 04/08/2023 19:03

Does it say anything about previous applicants? Some places will bin applications if the person was rejected within last 6 months, for example.

How did you apply the first time?

It doesn’t say anything about that.

It’s a local authority role.
I don’t know if that’s something they do?

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BunnyMum2000 · 04/08/2023 19:12

It’s been a long time since I last applied for a job.
I guess I’m not that good at it 😔

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swanling · 04/08/2023 19:22

Firstly, it's a skill, you can learn and get better at it. Secondly, you don't know why you didn't make the sift - it could have been volume of applications.

How recently were you rejected?

whatever1980 · 04/08/2023 19:22

I've applied for same post twice. Didn't get it first time round at interview. Post was readvertised - I applied again and was interviewed again and got it. Council job. In it to win it

If it's public sector job do you need a cover letter? Isn't it usually an application form and you have to be really clear and demonstrate you meet all essential criteria?

Will need to show meet any desirable criteria potentially also

whatever1980 · 04/08/2023 19:24

When I've sat on shortlisting panel for local government jobs I've only been shown parts of application form which show essential criteria questions. I don't see persons name or address or whether female or male.

I'm just shown their answers to each essential criteria question and have to indicate (with rest of panel) if they have passed or not and can move to interview

ClafoutisSurprise · 04/08/2023 19:28

There’s nothing to lose, is there?

When I was younger I never applied for anything I’d previously been rejected for. Imagine how I felt when I realised people with better jobs and careers than me had got them after being rejected previously.

Imicola · 04/08/2023 19:40

I've done this before. I did have an interview first time, which didn't go particularly well, but I applied again and put much more preparation in the second time, aced the interview... still didn't get the job though, but apparently it was very close. So yeah, why not...

HundredMilesAnHour · 04/08/2023 19:46

Where I work (and recruit for), if you've been rejected by us previously, you'll automatically be rejected again if you apply for the same role, or a related role in the same team. We don't reject on a whim (a minimum of 3 senior people will have reviewed and rejected your c.v.) and we don't lower our standards to fill roles.

Flittingcandlewick · 04/08/2023 19:49

You definitely should reapply...for LA you must demonstrate exactly how you meet the criteria.

Wasywasydoodah · 04/08/2023 19:51

For a council job they’ll do sift without knowing your name, so they won’t even know if you’ve applied before

Daisymay2 · 04/08/2023 19:57

when I short listed in the public sector I never saw covering letters. However if you are not used to a certain type of application they are difficult to get your head around. You need to demostrate how you meet the criteria on the aplication form. Our forms(CS) had a space for you to demonstrate how you met each specified criteria. It didn't need to be work related, I had someone describe setting up a neighbourhood watch group and organising the communication between members for their communication skill.
If there isn't a space for that, then show it on the additional information.
Try again and good luck.

NorthernNut · 04/08/2023 19:57

I definitely would. If you didn't fully expand on the points then do this time.. sell yourself! Good luck :)

iwasthewalrus · 04/08/2023 20:01

Public sector roles almost always shortlist on the basis of demonstrating meeting the criteria. It’s literally a box ticking exercise. A general cover letter will usually receive a low score.

You’ve nothing to lose so apply again and see what happens.

BunnyMum2000 · 04/08/2023 20:14

Thank you everyone.

I was feeling quite deflated but I will try again, and put some more effort into tailoring my application for the role.

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Russooooo · 04/08/2023 20:18

I wouldn’t bullet point your letter if I was you, but maybe copy and paste the essential criteria into a draft and then edit your letter around it to ensure you cover all of the key point.

EarringsandLipstick · 04/08/2023 21:00

HundredMilesAnHour · 04/08/2023 19:46

Where I work (and recruit for), if you've been rejected by us previously, you'll automatically be rejected again if you apply for the same role, or a related role in the same team. We don't reject on a whim (a minimum of 3 senior people will have reviewed and rejected your c.v.) and we don't lower our standards to fill roles.

That's a ridiculous approach.

Perhaps a reapplying applicant will include more relevant experience or structure their application better.

An automatic rejection is silly. I've never heard of another organisation with such a short-sighted view.

EarringsandLipstick · 04/08/2023 21:04

BunnyMum2000 · 04/08/2023 20:14

Thank you everyone.

I was feeling quite deflated but I will try again, and put some more effort into tailoring my application for the role.

That's great! I agree with PP. Tailoring your application to meet the essential criteria is really important.

I often am shortlisting applicants of 60 or so. There will be some automatically eliminated (eg don't have professional qualification), but everyone is scored against the essential criteria. There's a max of 7 candidates we can meet. So often there are candidates that we don't meet, who have the essential criteria but just don't score as highly.

It's always worth resubmitting as the pool of candidates can vary each time, and with more structure, your application might be scored more highly.

Good luck!

HundredMilesAnHour · 04/08/2023 21:08

EarringsandLipstick · 04/08/2023 21:00

That's a ridiculous approach.

Perhaps a reapplying applicant will include more relevant experience or structure their application better.

An automatic rejection is silly. I've never heard of another organisation with such a short-sighted view.

Well we're number one in the world at what we do, making net billions each year, so I don't think our recruitment policy is holding us back. A lot of consideration goes into rejections - but that includes wanting people who get it right first time because that matters in what we do.

EarringsandLipstick · 04/08/2023 21:16

that includes wanting people who get it right first time because that matters in what we do.

Ok, if your company is that eminent, you can probably afford such an approach, I agree.

It's still short-sighted.

It's not about 'getting it right first time'. Someone who applies and then some time later re-applies may bring a different focus or experience or the field of candidates may differ.

In my sector (university) we work from essential criteria & scoring on those. There are sometimes good candidates but as we'll be limited to 7 to interview, some will miss out. Next time round for a similar role, the field might be different so they could score higher & make the cut.

Neither is a reflection on their skill set.

TokenGinger · 04/08/2023 23:27

Definitely reapply. I work public sector and have shortlisted and interviewed plenty of times. We would not know if someone had reapplied as all applications are anonymised and no personal information is included.

Definitely write a supporting paragraph or two under each essential criteria. The way shortlist is, each criteria has a score of 0, 1, or 2. 0 if you don't meet it at all. 1 if you can show examples of meeting the criteria. 2 if you excel at showing how you meet it, with multiple examples. For example, in almost all of our roles, we have a criterion about being competent in the use of Microsoft packages and other software systems.

A response with a score of 1 would be something like, I am proficient in the use of Microsoft packages. I have experience of using Outlook for email and calendar management, Word for word processing, such as reports or letters, Excel for databases, and PowerPoint for presentations. I also have experience of other software packages such as X and X.

This kind of response would show that the candidate knows what the packages are and what they're used for.

A response that would get a 2 would be something like, I am proficient in the use of Microsoft packages. I have extensive experience of using Outlook for email and calendar management. I am familiar with the additional features in Outlook, such as programming emails to send at a certain date/time, creating email templates for repeated emails I send on a regular basis, creating distribution lists and colour-coding the calendar for easy identification of meetings.

I use Word regularly for processing letters and reports. I am knowledgeable on using the enhanced features Word has to offer, such as tracked changes, mail merge, password protecting documents (etc. etc. etc.)

Obviously this is all repeated for each package you're familiar with. There's a fine balance between writing too much and them getting bored, and not writing enough so that somebody else pips you to the post and gets that extra point which secures an interview. Sometimes, we can get a lot of applications for a role so we'll only take forward people who score a mark of 2 on every criteria. So write down as much as you can for each one.

Good luck xx

Spinningjenny23 · 04/08/2023 23:52

For NHS, HE, local government, you need to show how you fit the essential criteria as a minimum in your personal statement, sometimes it's HR staff or agencies doing the initial sift who have no knowledge of the specialist areas and will be looking for specific buzzwords from the job spec. Even if it's the hiring manager doing the sift, you make their life so much easier if you match your experience to the person spec and job spec.

If it's civil service, you need to use the star technique otherwise you won't make the sift even if you've actually been doing the job for months, according to friends in the civil service currently who recruit and/or interview. Yes, this is based on real life evidence, no it wasn't me. The current civil service recruitment game appears to this observer not to be so much about whether you can do the job. The current CS HR approach appears to be about how well you can fit into CS boxes, follow instructions, and potentially obey whatever bonkers goalpost shifting the government is up to this week... possibly explains a lot about some current civil service departments! (Cynical but accurate).

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