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Enforced resignation

54 replies

Hatemylife2023 · 25/04/2023 16:02

Hi,

Just wonder if anyone has been in a situation maybe with somewhere like the NHS where they don’t advise you to hand in notice until you’ve a firm unconditional offer.

Fortunately I’m only on a week’s notice and then could be out so I accept this isn’t so problematic.

Before I could ask what type of reference if any basically a reference request received simply got me a ‘strong armed’ conversation of you must be leaving which I rebuffed for now saying well I may not get references which satisfy having a unconditional offer, I’m going nowhere in refusing to give notice yet.

I’m just wondering if things can get really bad, my 1 to 1 that was due has been cancelled as if avoiding me more is the way to go. The reference from current employer has had to go to HR I just think not giving into their demands wholly means I get to at least control the reference situation. My family are of the opinion that I just give up current job as soon as with the correct notice and that I will manage through but really the thing bothering me is I leave and HR even more so don’t release a reference. Also I was mindful the company were on about deductions this month from my wage as they messed up their sickness policies when I was first off sick so I didn’t really want to have that fight on the outside either, I actually felt inclined to help the manager should it be their fault but after yesterday’s conversation I’m still in shock how’s it all been handled but I shouldn’t be surprised as they got a whole new team in just before I returned.

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PinkFootstool · 26/04/2023 14:18

Boomboom22 · 26/04/2023 14:16

And she may have verbal aphasia which is why her posts are hard to interpret, and walks with a cane so possible discrimination happening here.

She managed to secure a job after interview, so she's obviously capable of communication. Some of her previous posts are very clear - it's the incoherent rants that are a problem.

OP suggests different ailments in different posts, it's hard to advise accurately when they are changing so many details.

AlisonDonut · 26/04/2023 14:28

Boomboom22 · 26/04/2023 14:16

And she may have verbal aphasia which is why her posts are hard to interpret, and walks with a cane so possible discrimination happening here.

But this is about the reference for a job coming through early? So how is that discrimination?

Quveas · 26/04/2023 14:46

AlisonDonut · 26/04/2023 14:28

But this is about the reference for a job coming through early? So how is that discrimination?

This is the point - it hasn't come through "early". It came through after she was made a conditional offer. In other words, an offer conditional upon, amongst other things, the references that she is complaining about having been asked for! It isn't discrimination to ask for a reference in relation to a job that one has already been offered. And it is normal for someone to advise their manager that a reference request will be coming in, which the OP did know because she was offered the job nearly two weeks ago - telling someone is just basic manners.

HunterHearstHelmsley · 26/04/2023 16:46

Justyouwaitandseeagain · 26/04/2023 04:44

I had this exact situation when joining the NHS. NHS HR put out a request to my current employer at exactly the same time as making an offer to me. I was on leave and had no chance to inform my manager of the reference request. The first I knew was a livid email from my then boss.

It ended ok as I apologised to the boss and explained the situation. I also confirmed my resignation and he did provide a reference.

I put in a complaint to the NHS HR team as did the lovely hiring manager. The HR person had overlooked both mine and the hiring managers instruction not to approach my current boss until I'd had a chance to speak with him (I had ticked on the application not to approach him until specific permission was given)

m sorry this happened OP. Hope you can work through this.

I used to work in NHS recruitment and it was never clear if someone had asked to request references later. It was one of those stupid system things that was on the application form but wasn't passed on to the recruitment team. It used to happen regularly as our process was to request references as soon as we'd been advised by the hiring manager that someone had accepted a job offer.

That was a few years ago, I'd assumed things had changed but clearly not!

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