White lies

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I have recently been offered my dream job....... literally over the moon BUT!
Qualification specifications stated NVQ level 3- no problem I have a level 5 plus a wide range of others.
GCSE grade C or above- I lied
I did my GCSEs 25 years ago and my results were poor and not a C.

I have now recieved my job offer letter and contract which states I need to show ID for dbs checks as well as my level 3 certificate and GCSE certificates.

I'm now losing sleep as I lied in the application. If i come clean I may lose the job before I ve even started.
I could lie and say I don't have the certificates but they may ask me to obtain them from the examination board.
I thought about photo shopping the certificates but then thats fraud.

Most people tell little white lies on job applications right?

Now I don't know how to approach this without shooting myself in the foot.

The job is working for the local council.

It’s really not likely at all

your employer is in the minority for actually caring, stop thinking the opposite.

your view is that it’s more common than it is

I worked for an exam board. Certificates from that long ago would be extremely hard to get copies of and if you can't remember which exam board they were from, which is quite understandable after all these years, then it would be impossible to get copies. Certificates can easily get lost over the years during house moves etc.

@DazzleRazzles I worked in the public sector for years. My qualifications had to be shown every time. Even my degree - which I had got at the university I was working in and the woman at a desk 2 feet away was able to send me my degree cert in the internal mail.

Genuinely how can they check? I don’t even know the exam board I sat my GCSEs with. I don’t have the certificates and my parent probably lost them their house move.

@Quveas the dbs bit doesn't ask your gcse even I don't think , its more about finding out if you have a good background and make sure you have no gaps where you could of been in prison or something and making sure your not a risk
I know loads of people my age who have forgot their gcse / o level results
I can't remember my btech either i either passed or got a merit or mixture of both
Again no certificate , infact I was never sent one and I wouldn't know how to find it
Never had to show that either other than last couple of jobs
Guess ones i do are all based on experience and references

Really? You need me to explain why a white lie is OK and not an issue, as opposed to what... a black lie? A lie is a lie. Full stop. They don't have "colours".

Whether judging someone by old qualifications is ridiculous is not your call or mine. I always consider an honest answer and understand that more recent qualifications or experience may be a better basis for judgement. But that's my choice as a recruiter. A lie is never going to impress me. And if I find out you lied at a later stage, I have the law on my side to dismiss.

@wibblewobbleboard but did you ever ask them what would happen if you couldn't show them ? Degree maybe as the latest and highest and it kind of trumps all the rest
But if you had said i dob't have my gcse certs and don't know exam boards , what would they have done

Yes, as I said, your experience isn’t universal and it’s actually in the very small minority.

Degrees are different to GCSE’s, surely you can understand that?

It’s incredibly rare for an employer to care to ask for, let alone push and check GCSEs when someone is over the age of 18. Especially for professional roles.

I think we found the daily mail reader

Seriously, don't worry about the certificate. Show your bosses your uncaring response to my bolt problem, and not only will they realise you're ideal for the job, I guarantee you'll be CEO by the end of the month. You are truly council material. #wherearemybolts? 😏

@Quveas yes its a phrase and I have never heard anyone say a black lie ever so I cannot see how its racist
And never heard anyone say that it is
Its not about colour in terms of people

I had to show all my certs and they took photocopies. 🤷🏼‍♀️ the op's employer might do that. They might not. It's a risk she has put herself in by lying on her cv.

Not f*ing ever. Just someone who thinks honesty is a value. Obviously not a thing around here. Bearing in mind that I've never known the DM to tell the truth, I think we know who you all are...

how much wine have you had tonight?

But you don’t know what they would have done if you’d have just said sorry I don’t have them.

99% of employers wouldn’t give a shiny shit

You’re sat here pretending it’s a common thing to have to show GCSEs or else be dismissed - that’s simply not true

Are you being obtuse or don't you get it? The opposite of a white lie (which doesn't matter) is a black lie. It's a cultural norm based on racist assumptions that anything "white" is pure and good... dear God NM hits a great new low point when lies are no longer lies.

i think someone needs to just chill out a little and not look for offence in everything or worry about what someone else has done
No way you have never ever told a lie , everyone has

If it helps OP I have literally no memory of what my GCSE results were and have been making them up for years. Who cares?! I work for a large tech company! You’ll be fine, don’t stress. To the people commenting that it’s fraud… lock me up and throw away the key 😂

@Quveas no sorry the opposite i don't see as meaning that at all
Its a phrase and one I have heard shock horror black people use also, are they racist too ?
There is no equivilent and white lie means small harmless lie not necessarily a good lie

I'm not pretending anything. Some employers check. Some don't. In my experience public authorities tend to.

Honestly I sat my GCSEs 20 years ago and haven’t got a clue now what my passes were, I could guess, I remember being fairly pleased but they are completely and utterly irrelevant to my career. I would as other have said say you have no idea where your certificates are and produce the ones you do have which are relevant (I also have no idea where my certificates are)

In your extremely limited experience of never testing it.

Some employers ask to check, the amount of those that would push if told you’ve not got GCSE certs is minuscule.

professional qualifications and degrees are different - I’d hope a fully grown adult would understand that

This seems crazy if he was perfectly competent at actually doing the job?

I've already said. In a role where I was a junior, we had a guy start in a manager role. He was asked to supply gcse English and maths and his higher qualifications. He supplied the higher but not the English and Maths and couldn't prove equivalency so he was let go in his probationary period