Funeral bank holiday, non Monday workers

[KangarooKenny]

For those of you who do not work Monday, did your employer give you another day off, like your Monday working colleagues ?

No.

No. I haves missed out on loads of bank holidays.

Not officially, as in it wasn't added to my holiday schedule but been told to take time as and when it suits.

My company gave those that don't work Mondays pro-rata leave added to their entitlement. Same as other bank holidays.

Me too.

It’ll be totally down to how your contact is worded and also your employer.

we closed on Monday and paid everyone that was due to work. But anyone not due to work didn’t get paid or extra time off.

My bank holiday allowance is on a pro rata basis. I work 4 days a week so normally get 6.5 days but this year will get 8.

Any Bank Holidays like Good Friday I need to book out of this leave but the rest is effectively extra holiday.

Yes.

For those that "miss out on BHs" - are you permanent staff? Are you full time or part time? In England?

All staff on FT should get the 8 BHs. If you don't work Mondays contractually (and work sat or Sunday eg), then the 8 days should be added to your allowance to use another time.

All PT staff should get the pro rata amount of BHs to use either on BHs (if worked) or another time if not contracted a BH working day.

Part time workers aren't supposed to be treated any less favourably than full time workers but you would need to check how it was dealt with for full time workers. There was no government mandate for everyone to have an extra day off at full pay. Some employers will have allowed the day off but deducted it from holiday allowance in which case nothing extra is due to non-monday workers.

If 5 day-a-week workers got a free day off, 4-day-a-week workers are due an additional 0.8 days of leave, 3 day-a-week workers get 0.6 days.

Same

I believe the ones who got the day off did not have it taken from their leave. They appear to have just been given the day off. Those of us who don’t work Monday got nothing extra.

Can you email your line manager and ask what the arrangements are so that "part time staff are not treated less favourably"?

We’ve already spoken to her, but the company aren’t rushing back with an answer.
Most staff have booked all their leave, so it must have just been given as an extra day.

So did ours.

The way the government worded the bank holiday it was optional and therefore no legal obligation to pay staff for the day off and usual rules about part time staff don't apply.

You should be getting the other bank holidays added pro rata to your holiday entitlement

It's not being treated less favourably if you don't normally work that day.

If your boss gives you an early finish on Christmas Eve it doesn't mean everyone who has it booked off is entitled to 2 hours in lieu.

It's good luck for those who work a Monday, not bad luck for those who don't:

I don’t work Mondays but have bank holidays added to my leave entitlement every year. My work made it clear however that they would not be making any adjustments for this bank holiday this time. So I miss out. (Especially annoying as I was due to work it as overtime due to a critical deadline on my project.)

A pro rata additional hrs will be added to your AL allowance .. This question always comes up for part time workers , you do not lose out , your total AL hrs include these pro rata

I am am employer. I disagree that it's down to how your contract is worded. If full time staff were given an extra bank holiday, it's my understanding that PT staff are legally entitled to the pro rata equivalent.

We have given staff who don't work on Mondays an extra day, pro rata. The flip side of that is that PT staff who do usually work a full day on Mondays had to use a little bit of their annual leave to make up the rest of the extra day off.

It was indeed optional, but if you choose to take that option, then I don't see how you could legally decide not to apply it equally to everyone.

If we had said to people that we weren't treating it as a bank holiday but that they were free to watch the funeral during work time, then I agree that PT staff wouldn't have been entitled to anything. But if it was treated as an extra day's holiday, then I can't see legally how PT could be treated differently.

I've just had to work out staff holiday entitlements for this at work.
Basically, the Government made it optional for employers to give staff the day, not a legal requirement.
But, if your employer gave full time staff the extra holiday then they should add the pro rater hours to part time members of staffs annual leave.

Yes, that's my understanding too.

It's not being treated less favourably if you don't normally work that day

Everyone full time got a paid day off. Everyone part time did not.
That means the FTers were treated more favourably.

The FT and PT workers who work Monday got the day off.