Colleague buggering off home early. As their manager, would this bother you?

[Marie2022]

I have been in post for a few weeks and have had some problems with one of my direct reports. Nothing serious, mainly of the “Not my job” type of response from her, regarding things that very clearly are her job.

I sent her an email a few days ago at a time when she should have seen it. She didn’t reply. At which point someone said that she wasn’t actually there. The following day I asked her to confirm her hours, which she did.

I have just checked the CCTV for the past 2 weeks and she has been leaving 10-20 minutes early every single day.

Is this a big deal? As a manager, would this bother you? I just want to get some opinions before I do anything.

Many thanks.

Incredible that the OP has found time to post on a public forum but can’t font the time to have a one to one conversation with the person concerned.
There’s something way off about her priorities!

She's posting here for advice. You don't deal with a situation before taking on board the advice you've been given.

She's also not posting while she's working.

Just back off now/

panatone would you stop with this narrative please, its badgering and you dont need to do it. She has asked for help on here and you are being horrible to her about it - why?

Just read @Panatone posts

given the last two posters hand wringing I was expecting something really abusive

but instead @Panatone has just said what loads of us have said

and as for @girlmom21 - you getting her up about this poster being “nasty”. Your first post on this thread was “there’s a load of jobsworths on this thread”. I cried when I read that, so nasty it was was! 😂

does the op say she’s not posting whilst working?

That wasn't my first post on here and there are loads of jobsworths on the thread but @Panatone is making repeated and aggressive attacks at the OP.

There's one thing sharing an opinion, but repeatedly degrading and insulting someone when they've already acknowledged their error is just nasty.

@Ohthatsexciting have a look at the times she's posted. Middle of the night, early morning, late evening. She's clearly not posting when she's working.

Aggressive attacks?

She thinks the OP is incompetent.

and I have to agree on the basis of this op - I’d agree. Incompetent enough to actually breach the law.

Name calling a load of posters “jobsworths” would be regarded as aggressively attacking!

ohthats grow up! - this is supposed to be a forum by women for women - having someone come on a thread and ask a question only to be castigated and vilified, told she is incompetent and suggest that she is lying in some way is a shitty way to treat anyone. Advice can be given without nastiness.

Call it hand wringing all you want, trust me Id rather be handwringing than nasty I wonder how many of the horrible posters would have the courage to be the same in real life? Not many Ill bet!. Marie how are things today?

Pure speculation

Where does it say “by women for women”

Where doesnt it?

or are we all secretly men on their way to work talking about periods and pregnancy pains and asking for advice on style regarding bras etc.

Thought it was for parents though on mumsnet that obviously means women. On some of the forums there'll be non parents and shockingly sometimes men.

Where “doesn’t” or say “by cats for goldfish”

You said it specifically was “by women for women”m
In your opinion

It is a parenting website

In any event

the gender of someone is irrelevant to whether I think they are incompetent or not on the basis of an op

@Panamera22

You have assumed the op is a woman

the only gender she refers to is the employee. “Her”

@Ohthatsexciting Thanks. I’ve pointed out several times that lots of posters have called out the op, but a couple of posters including @Panamera22 seem to be obsessed with following me around the thread calling me nasty!
i’m devastated😀

honestly I just dont like bullies!! -

Many would say the OP is “bullying” this member of her team by beaching the law and spying on her on CCTV rather than actually managing her and having an open and Frank discussion with her

The OP is someone who came on to ask for advice on how to approach an issue in work, I fail to see how being horrible to her will help that? Are you suggesting that the OPs failure to challenge this lady without considering the best way to go about that is bullying? Is calling her incompetent etc a nice way to respond to someone requesting assistance? Has it occurred to you that the employee is taking the piss? That the OP is new to the position, a bit unsure and that this employee is exploiting that? As for yourself Panatone what do you get out of being horrible? or any other poster for that matter? I dont think you are devastated at being called out by any means, but I do think there is something underlying in someone who has to come on an anonymous forum to try to belittle someone else.

I’ve been very hurt by some of the comments on this thread

Try not to let it get to you, @Marie2022 - if it's landlords or employers (both of which tend to be hate figures on MN) it attracts a certain type of over-excited post, often with things picked out and over-inflated or even downright made up to suit the "horrible boss/landlord" narrative

Luckily there's been lots of sensible, positive advice as well, and I wish you the very best with this

puzzled I agree - not to mention Step parents or affair partners!