Thanks for the response and advice
New thread https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/work/5003959-internal-nhs-interview-anxiety
Yeah it is sadly true, re; plausible bs-ers. But at the same time, they will pull things off when push comes to shove, so hoping the service doesn't suffer and he pulls his socks up.
a). He is ill prepared, I wouldn't say chaotic, more overly complex and also, misunderstands a fair amount or forgets.. so it's like that is why the issues often arise, I think his overly complex thinking whereby for example a patient is diagnosed with x and prescribed y, he will be like okay makes sense because someone else did it. But then it's like, we need to research the rationale for xyz and how to address and present it and he will spend (no lie - 4 months) thinking about things, typing out a paper and then ask me to review and rewrite it.. at which point I'm like... you've gone down a completely incorrect path and just do the work and give it to him
But I can admit, sometimes the overthinking MAY play in their favour because in an interview, it could come across as "okay, they've considered every possible avenue" when in reality it's like, the answer is a to c via B and you just did a - b... from z backwards through the alphabet and made a patient wait 3 months for something critical.
b) i hope so. The seniors are very intuitive and aware. However, my fear/understanding is that, this interview must be objective and determined on the merit of the interview. External factors and knowledge shouldn'tbe taken into considerationas it will create bias. So the fact that all the environmental factors for me (and some personal ones at the moment- that haven't been made known) may have played into my poor performance, and the fact that he has had an extra week off to prep and what not, will not be considered is kind of disheartening.. also, knowing that he also said throughout the week it was too short notice to prepare and then on Sunday saying he still hasn't prepared or even accepted the invite
Then happened to call in sick.. all just sounds a bit odd to me. Then also asked me what I prepared.. I struggle to lie or be helpful but know I can't share questions from the interview, so just said, look you know what you do, you know what you want and what the role needs, so just put it down, to which he basically said, I think ill just 3 slides together and talk and see... plus added knowledge that he doesn't want this role, but can't find anything better atm, and owns a side business with colleagues and takes time during work to do his side biz
It's just disheartening that I will most likely be against all odds but once I go, the place may not progress positively.
c). I'm praying you're right, but I was literally not myself. I am usually quite confident in my knowledge and able to convince others with my data and info. I just didn't do that at all. I wasn't myself.. but I appreciate your thoughts and experience and hope this is one of those cases!
It's a long story but we were both locums diff areas, him where he is still, me elsewhere- covering various posts across the hosp, then I worked covering an area he does and saw the potential and how it could be amazing
So I basically said, you need me on your team
My vision is x y z and it'll happen
Then he fought to get me in, (we were both on the same banding, but I was earning more and helped him negotiate a better rate).
Also, I recognise banding isn't often the experience or skills you have when a locum, it's more pascale unlike permanent (he's almost 2 decades my senior)
Anyhow same place same band he was there longer therefore "lead" eventually same rate.. but not the same respect.
Hence why 2 8bs one is boss one not.. and when the posts were made substantial, it was "we can justify 1 8b and 1 8a" and it was assumed by him and I that 8b was his
. Until I finally asked if I could try for the 8b because I didn't wanna drop to an 8a.. but also, I wanted the interview experience and desperately want that role, to make a positive impact
Atm my impact gets stopped at him because he will be like "can you do this piece of work.. deadline is 5 weeks and I am busy" I say yes, do it in 1 week to account for any time needed to review/amendments/ considerations etc
Then after 4 months it comes back to me like " ah we should really get on sorting that thing. Have you looked into it? And I'm like.. i did it months ago and I reminded you like 4 times" and hes like oh yeah, where is it? Then struggles to find it and I have to find it for him, and he will be like "i think I trust you, add his name as the reviewer/checked by" and approved and send it off...
Or he will just bench it pending something that he needs to do first that never gets done..
Anyhow yeah it's just an odd scenario I agree
but ultimately, he has been there longer and in all the leadership meetings and he sent me the links to all the other recurrent meetings he's in, but never the "directorate" ones. Hence this unilateral sense of power.
Anyhow, I am not toxic about it all
If i don't get it, it's fine, I got the experience I will grow and I will learn
I am more just kicking myself for not just being who I am and turning into a babbling nervous idiot that I'm not usually. And that being the cause of my downfall
I also, just did love the role so much and to see it go to someone that has continually asked me the same questions daily, needed to remind him to attend his meetings, needed to remind him of basic patient safety things, correct mistakes he makes and cover for him and sometimes will come in and not do any clinical work, but be bogged down typing one email and then in his own business meetings... is just so sad
Regardless upwards
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