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To just about tolerate someone I line manager

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Standingstilll · 14/10/2021 13:20

They're a nice person , nothing offensive about them but it's clear that they don't have the skill set ideally expected.

I'm working with her on this before the next steps of capability/HR process that may kick in. But I'm really starting to dislike her.

It's just their bumbling manner whereas I and others I line manage are a bit more dynamic.

I need to remain professional and help her get up to speed. Sadly now we are working 'normally' it's showing her deficiencies which didn't flag during probation period.

It's getting to the point that even the minor issues are starting to be big issues for me. I then need to step back before I address it and be accused of bullying.

I'm BU aren't I ? But reasonable to recognise my issues in this ?

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Dreamstate · 15/10/2021 22:29

Well still waiting for OP to give clearer idea on what she means by being more dynamic.

Maybe her expectations of veryone being the same personality wise is unrealistic if that's what her definition of dynamic is. But we don't know she won't explain.

So until OP does id say there is issue on both sides.

Fruitteatime · 15/10/2021 22:46

God I'm so scared this is about me. Would I know if it it was? Nothing has been said to me at work about me not being good enough but I clearly either have imposter syndrome or I'm rubbish at my job.

carlywurly · 15/10/2021 23:40

I'm dealing with one of these. I feel your pain. Endless excuses for low productivity. Would also use the word bumbling.

By dynamic, as an example, for this one it's progressing through the stages of a project at the speed of an arthritic snail unless prompted to keep moving. As in, a planning meeting is booked, that then requires a scope to be written. I chase that. Then there's the edits, I chase those. Then the next meeting to be booked. I chase that. Etc etc

I have a more junior member of the team who manages about four times the output simply because they are proactive and dynamic. This is why we are in capability measures and I don't feel it will end well. It's so frustrating when you know you've been clear on expectations, been available for guidance and they just can't/won't do the actual job. My employee was inherited and not recruited by me.

Underamour · 16/10/2021 10:57

Firstly, it’s Line manage not line manager. Secondly, mumsnet has been known to have leaks and even without that you other comments could be searched to build up an idea of who you are. Thirdly, most companies have a social media policy which I am sure you are probably in breach of, whether they know it or not. Fourthly, launching a character assassination of someone who is not here to defend themselves with you in the role of poor decent manager, just trying to do the right thing in the face of terrible incompetence from
Your totally dislikeable employee and asking randoms on the internet for advice on HR policy and procedures is so unprofessional it just makes you look dumb. Plus you are clearly enjoying the thought of other people criticising this employee. It’s all in very bad taste. The fact you can’t or won’t understand this, despite many posters spelling it out, speaks volumes.

OberthursGrizzledSkipper · 16/10/2021 11:26

I've been the bumbling non-dynamic employee in this scenario. I've not understood in a new job exactly what the manger is expecting, when it's a totally different culture from my old one. I've been told I should be "looking for work to do" when I have no idea what there is because nothing is written down. It is soul destroying.

I was diagnosed with a neuro condition very late in life, which explains why I don't grasp concepts like other people. I do, however, have strengths that other people don't. It's taken the input of somebody at a much higher level to act as a mediator to explain to me where I'm falling short, and to my manager how to help me, and some open conversations along the lines of "please tell me exactly what you expect from this task" and now we are all on the same page.

My productivity has soared because I'm not having to second-guess instructions and the manager has stopped micromanaging. Manager feels I've really improved, but actually I'm just being listened to now, and accommodated. I'm also upfront when I can't do something or won't finish it, because I know I won't get "told off".

Does this woman have the chance to speak to somebody else about how she feels she is doing and what the issues are? If not, I would say that is your next step.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 16/10/2021 11:59

is she due an appraisal?
supervision?

she perhaps need mor training?
quite standard

you dont like her bumbling
how is the end result?

MrsLargeEmbodied · 16/10/2021 13:30

i think you should let her have a different line manager

Treblebass · 26/10/2021 21:46

@goteam

You’ve just described me. I get called dynamic all the time at work (past employment too). I’m actually really shit at most jobs though, and have zero substance.

I’m a fantastic blagger and can talk the talk but that’s basically where the buck stops.

Maybe this lady is just a slow burner.

Flossieskeeper · 26/10/2021 22:35

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Loz157 · 27/10/2021 15:58

Capability is one thing - however from the tone of the OP it is clear that she doesn't like her employee and is letting this personal dislike cloud her judgement.

Would she be the same if she liked her or was one of her friends?

If OP cannot be objective, she should not be a line manager.

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