Page 4 | Christmas Eve

daisychain01 · 08/10/2021 06:18

if you are an employee of a really big company where there tends to be less flexibility.

If it's a really big company, even more reason they have resource and 'flex' in their system to abide by the law on such a small concession to all staff.

prh47bridge · 08/10/2021 10:06

@SleepingStandingUp

Suck it up, it's a gift and you don't qualify. You're not missing out because you're not working anyway.

We usually get the afternoon off on Christmas Eve. If you book it as leave instead you have to book a whole day. If you don't work it, you don't get it. Simple. It's a Christmas gift FOR THOSE THAT ARE W WORKING THAT DAY

As has been pointed out several times on this thread by people who know what they are talking about, the OP IS missing out and her employer is acting illegally. If they give an additional paid day off to full time staff, they must give additional time off pro rata to part time staff. Telling the OP to "suck it up" is wrong.

lockdownmadnessdotcom · 08/10/2021 15:56

@fufulina

Hi - we’ve just been told that the company of giving everyone Christmas Eve off and gifting that holiday to staff. Christmas Eve is a Friday this year and I don’t work on Fridays. HR have told me to suck it up. I think that’s unfair, as full time workers gain an extra day of holiday that I don’t. What does anyone in HR think? Thank you.

I wouldn't' care if I didn't work Fridays anyway. You're no worse off.

lockdownmadnessdotcom · 08/10/2021 15:58

As has been pointed out several times on this thread by people who know what they are talking about, the OP IS missing out and her employer is acting illegally. If they give an additional paid day off to full time staff, they must give additional time off pro rata to part time staff. Telling the OP to "suck it up" is wrong

But they are not giving it to FT staff, they are giving to people who are working that Friday. Telling the OP to suck it up isn't wrong.

My husband's work always gives people Christmas Eve afternoon off but if you've booked the day off or aren't working that day you don't get a half day back. It is a big law firm, I think they would have been challenged long ago if they were wrong!

OP the way round it is to take your day off earlier that week and then "work" the Friday and get it off. If you really care that much.

Artesia · 08/10/2021 16:26

Agree. Whatever the legal position (and I say that as a solicitor!), it just seems a bit dog in the manger to complain about it.

prh47bridge · 08/10/2021 17:18

But they are not giving it to FT staff, they are giving to people who are working that Friday. Telling the OP to suck it up isn't wrong.

I'm sorry but the fact they may be giving it to some part time staff doesn't alter the basic point. As other staff (which clearly includes all full-time staff) are getting extra paid time off, the OP is also entitled to extra paid time off. Telling her to suck it up is definitely wrong. She is being treated less favourably because she is part time which is illegal.

Throwntothewolves · 08/10/2021 17:32

I don't think it's unfair, but I can see where you're coming from. I don't think giving you the equivalent pro rated time in lieu would be fair either as your colleagues who work fridays (are any of them part time?) have no choice as to when to take the day off. I guess the fairest thing would for them to tell you that you can take Thursday 23rd off instead. But I guess then someone might kick off about how that's unfair as you're part time so getting a full day off isn't fair as you work 20% less than them.

Id just suck it up because if everyone complains they won't do this again. That'll be fair at least though won't it?

HouseOfFire · 11/10/2021 14:28

@daisychain01

It's a Christmas gift FOR THOSE THAT ARE W WORKING THAT DAY

What a wonderful kind employer, openly giving their full time employees a Christmas present and excluding their part time employees. It speaks volumes about how little they value their part time employees - who are more often then not women. Turkeys voting for Christmas springs to mind.

More like they haven't thought this through and are pretty damn clueless about employment and discrimination laws.

Only the part timers who don't work on Fridays....

daisychain01 · 11/10/2021 20:13

Probably a significant proportion then. Friday is the most popular day not to work.

HouseOfFire · 11/10/2021 20:46

@daisychain01

Probably a significant proportion then. Friday is the most popular day not to work.

Most people I know on shorter weeks, like to avoid Mondays...

burnoutbabe · 13/10/2021 07:42

My company is like that, they send you home early Xmas Eve or New Year's Eve (maybe not if all working from home now)

But it's not guaranteed and if you want the day or afternoon off, you need to take holiday as usual.

I am now part time, doing 2 half days. I can move my days around so I'd work New Year's Eve and may benefit if they send us home early. Xmas Eve I need to get trains so I won't work it.

Being able to move my working days around is a very flexible benefit, I don't need to take holiday if I have an appointment, I just work another time slot. So only use up holiday when I have a full weeks break. (Obv not possible in all part time jobs).

I also get all bank holidays added to my holiday allowance then prorate that all, then just take off holidays actually taken.