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strangerontheinternet · 27/01/2021 21:22

Have previously come across a similar thread on another forum and it was so interesting! Basically people commented with their job, age and how much they earn. I hate my job/industry and feel it doesn't pay well like I was led to believe but also feel I have no idea what's out there career/job wise and how much various jobs would earn so what I could do.

I'm 27, a solicitor in Scotland and earn £35k

OP posts:
hamstersarse · 29/01/2021 15:56

I provide services into HR departments ...and there is a lot of incompetence.
I actually blame the CIPD for having a total stranglehold on how to be qualified. The CIPD are a useless, autocratic, protectionist and painfully politically correct organisation and do not encourage business sense. At all.

HR should be a really valuable role in big organisations...ensuring people can do their work, enjoy their work, be treated fairly in their workplace, achieve things...instead it’s often a procedural role for many HR specialists, siloed off with no connection into the wider business objectives.

There are many good HRDs but it’s not the majority and they probably secretly detest the CIPD l

Edi86 · 29/01/2021 16:38

Im 34 live in Scotland and work in a law firm as an accounts assistant earning just under £24k. I love my job and the company is great so I cant complain😊 of course I want to earn more but Im not unsatisfied😊

MutteringDarkly · 29/01/2021 19:15

I'd agree that the CIPD don't help by building an unwieldy framework around something that should actually be quite lean and nimble. You don't need a big HR team to make a positive difference.

I see the role as including:

Training and supporting new line managers, so they don't need too much day to day input from HR and can have confidence to lead teams
Coaching people to develop their careers and enjoy their work
Governance, H&S, legal compliance etc
Strategic planning for the skills we will need to recruit for in order to achieve company growth (some data analysis obvs)
Working on all sorts of things to keep the leaver rate low
Negotiating hard to keep recruitment costs down too
Setting up support systems aiming at low sickness rates because people can ask for help.

All of that falls under HR but in my view a lot of organisations just have way too many people doing it.

At director level you want to be in total command of the data in your own co, and your sector, so you can make valuable input into the co growth plans. You'll be lobbying for employee benefits that they will actually want. And you'll have a reputation as a problem solver, a reputable source of advice, and someone who will soak up the "people" side of some of the more difficult situations that inevitably arise at work. If you're doing all that then you've earned your place on the board, and your salary Smile

OP to address your recruitment question - always see if you can ring the hiring manager to talk informally before you apply. If they say yes, then prepare thoroughly for that call. Keep it brief, have a few focused questions, such as "this is a sector you're keen to break into, what are the key skills they really need in the role?" Show you've done a little research about the company and throw something in that you've learned. Thank them for their time, and then send in a polished application that makes a brief reference to the call in your cover letter. If you're still not getting anywhere, try calling the HR team and asking which agencies they like working with, then get yourself on that agency's books.

marbellamarc · 29/01/2021 20:06

I just read about a HR murderer, wtf!

ImsorryWilson · 29/01/2021 20:13

Cipd=what?

MutteringDarkly · 29/01/2021 21:34

CIPD chartered institute of personnel and development

Allispretty · 29/01/2021 22:51

Agreed with CIPD comments. Can be useful for something's but it's not the be all and end all of keeping knowledge updated

Springfern · 29/01/2021 22:57

We as women tend to make different life choices, ie having kids

And men don't have kids? Hmm

MdmL · 29/01/2021 23:11

HR is totally inflated. Yes they have a specific business support role more akin to a office manager, but not the same business value as a head of legal, finance, sales, IT, engineering etc. Maybe in rare instances there are truly talented HR directors who can operate as the same level as a COO, but those almost always come from the commercial side and pick up HR responsibilities. I find in many places it gets paid well at highest level due to their proximity to sensitive 'people' matters (at the end of day CEO and senior players can hire and fire who they want hey) need to have gender diversity the token female board member. somewhat similar to PR directors... they get paid well not because of the job function, but cos of the inside scoop on all sorts of company dirt. These are the sort of roles you dont need any formal training or qualifications really.

MrsSchadenfreude · 29/01/2021 23:20

Our HR people (who work in another country) add another layer of bureaucracy and a shovelful of stupidity. I scrutinise every job advert that goes out now, since they insisted that an accounts assistant needed a postgrad qualification in international relations, but no qualification or experience in finance.

mayaknew · 29/01/2021 23:43

34, RMN, 26k but I only clear under 1500/mth

Enough4me · 29/01/2021 23:57

OP, will this be good for your research?
Your name is 'stranger on the Internet' and just by asking you are able to collate data to align usernames, with ages and wages?
I'm 100, earn Googles and work for Wimpy.

MagentaDoesNotExist · 30/01/2021 00:32

@MdmL

HR is totally inflated. Yes they have a specific business support role more akin to a office manager, but not the same business value as a head of legal, finance, sales, IT, engineering etc. Maybe in rare instances there are truly talented HR directors who can operate as the same level as a COO, but those almost always come from the commercial side and pick up HR responsibilities. I find in many places it gets paid well at highest level due to their proximity to sensitive 'people' matters (at the end of day CEO and senior players can hire and fire who they want hey) need to have gender diversity the token female board member. somewhat similar to PR directors... they get paid well not because of the job function, but cos of the inside scoop on all sorts of company dirt. These are the sort of roles you dont need any formal training or qualifications really.
I agree. It's a non-job really and mostly seems to involve managing people out on management whim, then covering it up. Only for those of low qualifications and low morals usually (sorry to any nice HR people, but at higher levels this seems to be the MO required!)
MagentaDoesNotExist · 30/01/2021 00:41

@hemhem

£100k a year is at least £35k in tax and NI, and by the time you've paid for full time childcare and a big mortgage there's about £2k a month left for all the other bills, food shopping, commuting costs, cleaner, gardener, and so on. Obviously plenty to live on still but these type of people are time poor and rely on others for a lot, which they pay for!
This, exactly. Where I live a mortgage on a modest house is £2k. Then £2k in childcare for two. Then bills and food and commuting. So yeah, not much left at all, it's very tight indeed. When people talk about taxing single parents like me more because we are "rich" it makes me laugh. All that would happen is my children would lose their home. We contribute tens of thousands per year to the treasury but we have nothing left to give, we are taxed to the brink already.
snoopy8 · 30/01/2021 07:30

34, sales person in tech company, I earned £180k last year. I know I am very fortunate.

Onedropbeat · 30/01/2021 10:59

I’m guessing some people here work for Softcat

Snoringmutt · 30/01/2021 11:23

Some of the posts on this thread reek of misogyny. People do a bad job because they are shit at their jobs - they don't do a bad job because they are women. Angry

Seth41 · 30/01/2021 11:27

@snoopy8

34, sales person in tech company, I earned £180k last year. I know I am very fortunate.
I have no idea if you are “fortunate” or not.

You earn a high salary. Who knows what your life is like.

Xenia · 30/01/2021 12:22

One reason newly qualified London lawyers are on £87k not the £10,500 I earned when I qualified is because today child care costs full time in London can be £1800 per baby (x 2 if you have 2 at nursery) and house prices are high so mortgages and rents are high. The state still then as now takes a large chunk of it in tax and national insurance (and 9% student loan these days).

funday · 30/01/2021 12:24

Chartered accountant in financial services. Age 37, 70k working part time 3 days a week.

Butchyrestingface · 30/01/2021 12:26

snoopy8
34, sales person in tech company, I earned £180k last year. I know I am very fortunate.

I have no idea if you are “fortunate” or not.

You earn a high salary. Who knows what your life is like.

Oh, for God's sake.

Presumably the poster knows what her life is like and she has stated she considers herself fortunate.

Seth41 · 30/01/2021 13:19

@Butchyrestingface

snoopy8 34, sales person in tech company, I earned £180k last year. I know I am very fortunate.

I have no idea if you are “fortunate” or not.

You earn a high salary. Who knows what your life is like.

Oh, for God's sake.

Presumably the poster knows what her life is like and she has stated she considers herself fortunate.

I’m on a high salary.

I got there by degree, professional exams, long hours and experience.

People who get to high salaries (especially above circa £70k upwards) these days very rarely get there by being “fortunate”, which suggests luck and something outside your control

mizu · 30/01/2021 13:28

Full time teacher and co-ordinator 32,500.

mizu · 30/01/2021 13:30

And I'm 47 and been teaching 25 years...

Reearry · 30/01/2021 13:44

@snoopy8 do you need to have a technical background to get into tech sales?

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