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Sorry-another question-anyone know the sitation with midwifery via nursing route?

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Fillyjonk · 11/02/2007 08:52

Am thinking on career options. Thought I'd do this in another thread to catch nurses/midwives. Also like the attention

Would like to be dual qualified BUT I know there was talk about a year ago of stopping post nursing qualification midwifery courses.

Anyone know if this is still the case.

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ScottishMummy · 13/02/2007 08:51

3LoveHeartsAndNoMore

as this is a nursing career thread for filly here are some ot links - its a EXCELLENT career i should know i am an OT

lots of career oppurtunities eg community, medicine, surgical, orthopaedics, paediatrics, mental health, forensics, prisons, child and adolescent, learning disability, elderly ...i could go on

Mon - Fri (usually)
8 -4 or 9-5
no weekends
OT as a career

anyway if u want to discuss start a thread and we can chat

best wishes

SM

mosschops30 · 13/02/2007 10:07

fillyjonk did you try the nursebank in Cardiff&Vale trust. I only work weekends for them (as i am in college or on placement in the week) they are desparate for cover and are even sending txts and the moment asking whether we can do shifts.

Also you will not be able to transfer from nursing to midwifery after CFP because the courses are totally separate.

However as SS says you might change your mind when you get started anyway, i loved mental health but hated midwifery total opposite to what I expected

Would you be styudying at Cardiff?

3LoveHeartsAndNoMore · 13/02/2007 11:35

scottish mum here is the thread I opened about the topic:)

Fillyjonk · 13/02/2007 13:14

I fecking DID try the nursing bank. TWICE

both times they told me to bog off unless I could promise to work days 7-1 or 1-9 (I think)

can't guarentee that atm as no childcare

[ingignant emocion]

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3LoveHeartsAndNoMore · 13/02/2007 13:44

Filly how frsutrating for you!
Try agencys though, they are usually happy to take you on, etc..and then you can work as and when it suits.

mosschops30 · 13/02/2007 13:47

filly did they only say weekdays then on those early and late shifts? Bit odd.

mosschops30 · 13/02/2007 13:48

would say though filly if you cant do the bank nurse thing I wouldnt worry.

My friend has just been accepted to do nursing after working in marketing for 10 years, no previous experience.

On the other hand two auxilliarys I have worked with have been turned down to do the nursing degree.

I think its the sort of person you are not the experience youve had

HTH

preggerspoppet · 13/02/2007 13:56

hmmm...

I might just have to offer another pov to scottishmum re. the doula route,

I totally agree about the accessability of parents to doulas, that sucks, same as things like accupuncture, homeopathy, chiropractics etc are not available unless you can pay, that sucks too.

but.. for someone like me, a working class family, through and through, sahm and registered nurse. A doula is something I would certainly spend mony on, more so than a holiday, new furniture etc.

Also agree that a doula is not a part of a professional body, as such., unlike nursing, but I do beleive that we are moving far more toward natural birthing, dispite the fact tha midwifery training is very academic and midwifery units tend to be very medicalised.

A doula can be trained in many things that will enhance the care they can give, such as homeopathy, hypnotherapy, reflexology, aromatherapy etc etc, or even something like cranio-sacral therapy, study time permitting. all of these require training and have a regulatory body.

so I disagree about doula's career progression being non-existant.

Obvously a midwife can too but realisticly are'nt going to be able to use them if working on the nhs.

So I think there is lots of room for professional development as a doula, and in fact, in terms of promotion, you are your own boss which ime beats working for an nhs manager if you get it right and can earn enough money.

With the state of the nhs, there is a lot difficulty getting traing once qualified, and job cuts are going o everywhere meaning poor staffing levels and resources being cut everywhere.

There is no denying it, being an nhs nurse/midwife is bloody hard work and the pay is miserable. BUT if it your thing, (and you aren't financially too screwed) then you will still enjoy your work, dispite the poor conditions and pay and dispite the fact you are likely to be perminantly knackered!

I wonder if lulu would reccomend her job to you?

(I think I might have just persuaded myself it is a go-er!!)

Is it something you would still consider filly?

preggerspoppet · 13/02/2007 14:01

god point mosschops, I know of a hca with bags of experience and all the relevent quals, but she has been turned down twice, thankfully the uni's can tell she is an absolute psycho!!

I got on with bare minimum of everything required cos they obviously realised how great I woud be

would agree that it is worth a shot applying without bank experience.

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Fillyjonk · 13/02/2007 15:36

ok am now paranoid i sound like a scary psycho on the phone...

doula-ing...ok. I hear everything you are saying pp. but at the end of the day...I dunno, I AM going to be mainly working with women who don't so much need it, those who will have fairly straightforward births and who can afford to pay.

This will sound blunt and I apologise, but this is kind of what is going through my head. I am quite confident and not scared to be mouthy, I research things thoroughly. I am well educated. When I write official letters I don;t make spelling/grammat mistakes, when I have to speak to get my point across-I can do it confidently, and am prepared to annoy people judiciously. In short, though I grew up on a council estate, I appear pretty middle class (am being blunt, btw)

I had to use all theses skills to get 2 low intervention births. That sucks.

Soooo my interest is in helping people who don't have these skills get a decent birth. That is what motivates me. A good birth for everyone, every child.

I am sorry if that seems patronising, it is not meant to be.

doulas don't do that so much, do they? its more deep breathing and crystals? please tell me if I am wrong.

I need to collar lulu some time, don't I?

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Fillyjonk · 13/02/2007 15:37

(pmsl at "grammat mistakes btw)

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3LoveHeartsAndNoMore · 13/02/2007 16:03

A doula is not just about rubbing backs, etc...as the Doula you would also be "their voice" in a situation where they are to emotionally involved and often in to much pain to be able to fight their corner...so, advocating is, to some extend the owrlk of a doula.
Have looked into it myself, and it does look interesting, but I don't think it's a "Job" that will make you a living...so, in that respect it would not be for me...I mean, I am pretty sure I would probably really enjoy it, but well, sadly I am not in a situation that that will be enough, iykwim...
Also, I don't think there is a big need of Doulas where I live anyway, so, I suppose one would have to do their research first.
doula org uk website for more info

Fillyjonk · 13/02/2007 16:09

ah that sounds better then

i think round here doulas are a scarce breed and the few there are are lentilly. fine-i'm lentilly- but...

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3LoveHeartsAndNoMore · 13/02/2007 16:15

lol Filly...noubt wrong with being a lentil weaver I think!

preggerspoppet · 13/02/2007 16:45

filly, your 15.33 post lists lots of reason why you will have NO problem getting on a nursing/midwifery course.

you will look back and say 'what on earth was I so worried about?'

Fillyjonk · 13/02/2007 16:51

pp you are lovely

my only real; reservation now is my kids

i can't decide

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preggerspoppet · 13/02/2007 18:02

only you can decide that one...

but did I mention that some courses run over 4 years part-time..?

Fillyjonk · 13/02/2007 18:06

NONONONONO you didn't

no

you didn't

now that is interesting

is that nursing or midwifery?

oh I bet there's nowt in cardiff though, never is

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mosschops30 · 13/02/2007 18:46

filly cardiff is full time only, but i know the university of glamorgan do a part time degree as I was offered it when I came back to cardiff after having ds (think they were trying to get rid of me )

3LoveHeartsAndNoMore · 13/02/2007 19:14

Course information on Nursing and Midwifery at Cardiff University

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