will he be fired?

[TryingToBeMe]

My partner has recently started a new job (today is end of 3rd week). He works as a support worker(?), with adults that have learning difficulties (autism etc). As far as I know up to know they have been happy with his work but last night there was an incident where he raised his voice with a service user. He did because growing up that was what happened when his parents were assertive to him. They raised their voices. I know not brilliant as you can be assertive without upping your volume. But even worse is that he is deaf in one ear and sometimes talks louder than he thinks. At home I do have to say he is shouting because he doesn't realise how loud he is. Unfortunately I think that is what happened last night as apparently he was told he shouldn't have shouted. Today he was phoned to say he is on paid suspension while they investigate. It apparently could even have him ending up in prison. All because he doesn't know how loud he can be. I am scared he will go to prison for this. Or that he will lose his job and end up back on Job seekers. I know that the service user should have to have that happen but it wasn't malicious or because of loosing his temper. How bad will this be?

He's been in that job for 3 weeks and lost his temper and shouted at a service user? I fucking hope he's fired and not able to get a similar position. He's not fit to do the job.

I'm sorry but just from the limited information in your OP, I would question whether he has the right temperament for this job.

They will be following the Safeguarding Vulnerable Adults procedure for the area and should have informed the local social services but this sort of thing would normally be considered fairly low level and therefore the company his employers will probably be leading the investigation rather than social services/police. Hard to say what the outcome would be but it might be a formal warning or I guess they could decide to terminate his employment if he's in a probationary period.

Obviously the hearing thing could be a mitigating factor but to be honest it's normally more about aggressive tone than actual volume. If he has spoken to a service user in an aggressive way then im sorry but I don't think he should be doing the job.

Tigger, he did not lose his temper, perhaps you should read a bit more carefully. In the 14 years we have been together I can only remember him shouting twice. He is unbelievable patient with our children and people in general. As such I will ignore the rest of your post as being irrelevant.

I know that the service users should not be in a situation where they feel as though they are being shouted at and I am sorry that that is how this one most likely feels.
It does not change the purpose of this three which was wanting to reassure myself that he would not go to prison because he didn't realise how loud he was. No I do not know the exact details of happened, but I know him. I know how patient he is and I know that he would never take his temper out on anyone. I think that I will leave this thread now as it has served its purpose for me. Thanks

• Reassure myself that he would not go to prison, because he did not realise how loud he was.

Being told he's not suitable fine, hopefully just given a talking too but prison is extreme for a loud voice that has no temper or maliciousness behind it.

You don't know anything about a prison sentence and he hasn't yet been charged so don't get ahead of yourself.
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But you say you have to tell him to stop shouting and he doesn't realise when he is shouting.

So I would probably not employ him to take care of my adult ds with asd and sld. You cant really have someone who has to be monitored themselves and who cannot moderate their voice. Realistically it proably isn't the right job for him

And forget his father that's irrelevant. I would not be able to explain that to my ds. People with high needs don't undestand the hearing loss or the upbringing. They will just hear someone shouting. So he needs to work with people who have enough understanding to be aware of his disability and to be ok with it.

You said he lost his temper in your first post! Maybe you should spin the truth more carefully rather than advise me on my reading.

No, I apologise, I misread. You didn't say that. But he still sounds totally unsuitable for this job, at best.

I stand by my point.

I do your partners job. And "cutting out all excess words" is bull.

Me too kelso, yes we would simplify s sentence but there is no way anybody would say chair, sit.

Prison is likely a complete overreaction, unless the Service User or their carer report this.

He should probably expect to be let go from this position and his work may have a duty to report that he verbally abused a Service User, if that's what they believed happened, to the Safeguarding boards. That could lead to him being put on the barred lists, I believe, but it's been a while.

How serious this is hinges on what he said. He was locked a room with someone and shouted for a prolonged period. What was he shouting? Why didn't he raise his voice once to be assertive, if that's what he believed he'd done, and then drop it back to the normal level? Prolonged shouting is unusual.

You need to ask him that outright rather than trusting that you know him. You do, but people do odd things under pressure and it will be his actual action in that room that matters, not whether he'd usually react like that. There's likely to be CCTV so he's going to need to provide an honest and accurate account.

it doesnt sound like he is right for this job. he raised his voice because that is how he was brought up.
he wont be able to curtail this

but i doubt very much he would go to prison.
is he on probation?

Nobody is going to prison for shouting at someone. You have to commit a criminal offence; there isn't one where shouting is involved, apart from a public order offence and that isn't what happened here.