Safer schools issues guidance on furries in school

To gauge whether I actually want to know do you need to have a long very hot shower with a scrubbing brush after or is it the more tame end of the market?

Could you also make the argument that encompasses the entire cosplay industry with your perspectives ?

Any hobby that's open to all, is always at risk, therefore all people should be taught that no one can be truly trusted no matter who they are or seem to be.

Convention's run on two levels. So basically two conventions in one. One innocent and wholesome the other more adult in nature.

For the most part, especially during the day, the innocent version is presented. But what the children don't know is that later more than one of those nice puppies who's tail they were playing with earlier will remove it from his butthole and get off on the fact that he derived sexual pleasure earlier in the day from the six year old who was stoking his back and pulling on his tail.

I'd prefer the kids aren't innocent victims of that man's fetish.

And like men saying they are women we don't know the innocent furry from the sexual fetish furry so all children should be kept away from all of them in my opinion.

With that new context, omg 😲😲 holy spirit and again omg 😲😲

Funnily enough, it largely depends on the sex/gender of the commissioners - Females tend to be more tame and way less fussy/nit picky/graphic.

Males you tend to have to gage if you want to work with them based on how they've written asking for/describing their idea and either write them off, or grin and bear it with a lot of venting to friends and a lot of mind bleach in the form of quintessentially british tiktoks :') ahahah

I used to go to conventions many moons ago. Its very easy to just see the innocent level. They are good fun. You get to meet your heroes off the tele and films. And as long as you don't let your kids stroke the other attendees and get them home before the sun goes down it's a good fun day and the kids are happy.

But people if they are taking their children to these things really need to be aware that anything that offers a disguise of appearance will always attract a higher than average percentage of perverts and child abusers.

That was my comment. And to be honest, I had furry fetishists in my head, being led around with a spiked collars.

I didn't mean to malign the whole cosplay community.

But if one is talking furries and schools in the same sentence, to me, the fetish element is the first thing that should be addressed.

But what the children don't know is that later more than one of those nice puppies who's tail they were playing with earlier will remove it from his butthole and get off on the fact that he derived sexual pleasure earlier in the day from the six year old

It's because this ^ sort of thing is entirely unsurprising to me.

Ok that's enough internet for today. I need a bloody rest.

I'm not surprised by your answer. I imagine that like most things the women come to like furries via a different route from the men and have completely different reasons, in the main, for embracing the culture.

I'm going to say from your description of the men's requests I hope a windfall from some where lands in your lap soon to save you from that.

I'm interested in the female ones though. Do they want you to do portraits like you would if they are in normal clothes? With them posing? Or do they want you to turn their favourite picture or pose into something otherworldly?

Sorry.

All the hug options were furry

Having denied any sexual element! So dodgy.

At least there are plenty of people on Twitter calling him out.

It must be like whack a mole for you 2falls. I hope you know how grateful we all are. I thank God you're on top of all of this.

Some of you are talking as if this is a new thing.

I went to a school with a furry many, many moons ago. It wasn't sexual when we were in school, in the same way that boys and girls "going out" wasn't sexual - dating in schools rarely went beyond holding hands and kissing.

Yes, now that he's an adult, there is a sexual element to it - but he wasn't a danger to others, or at risk by others when he was a child. He was just a boy who identified as a furry creature. TBH, I don't think anyone other than his closest friends realised when he was a kid - mainly because he didn't have the money to buy a furry outfit then.

An usual FETISH you meant to say. It's not a fucking hobby.

But many moons ago was your furry friend able to go online with the phone in his pocket on his way home from school and talk to grown men pretending to be 15 years olds?

https://twitter.com/richk13/status/1652217362861490177

Anthropomorphic animals would never be used to groom children or used by a group of acknowledged perverts right?

Good catch!

For posterity here's the photo from that tweet.

MAP = Minor Attracted Person (pedo in old money) and a furry in the corner. How cute. How innocent!

Well, it was pre-smartphones, but it wasn't pre-internet. And none of my peer group were supervised with things like chat rooms and instant messaging. TBH, I think it's because the internet was still quite new back then, so a lot of parents didn't even know how to use a web browser. (Gosh, it sounds like a different era...)

My friend really wasn't some kind of sexual deviant influencing our class negatively. We knew he had 'his thing', we knew it didn't appeal to us, and that was that. We didn't treat him any differently. When he was older and went to uni, he found his scene.

I think it's like with any preference - it can be quite naive/sweet as a child. It doesn't turn into something sexual until the child grows up and becomes an adult. You don't see/hear things until you're ready for them.

I mean, pretty much every pop song is filthy. I didn't get any of the references when I was a kid as I just didn't think that way. As an adult, I hear them all now...

That description brings the movie From Dusk Till Dawn to mind and not in a good way.

I think it's like with any preference - it can be quite naive/sweet as a child. It doesn't turn into something sexual until the child grows up and becomes an adult. You don't see/hear things until you're ready for them.

i'm not sure I understand? Children don't tend to grow up and seek out communities that have sexualised their childhood hobbies and toys.

Childhood hobbies or toys don't turn into something sexual for no reason. All supported by a massive community of adults.

Furries are already sexual. And if a child has been exposed to them, they've been exposed to that concept, however unwittingly. It's the very definition of grooming.

I'd say I agree with your summary of it honestly - From personal experience, and from talking to other female artists - most of them generally get into it just because they like art and it's where the big money is. Typically through anime or manga interests.

For the ones who buy rather than create, it's more of a way to express themselves, different sides of their personality, different emotions for the most part.
The most common type of pieces are "pin-up" style pieces, these can either be clothed or nude, it's about 60/40 ratio at a best guess.
Though that being said most clothes are usually lingerie, undies, beachwear etc. They more give the vibe of "empowered in their sexuality" rather than provocative though, they're generally more artistic. I think aesthetically the pin-up style is just popular.

A lot will also commission or create "vent" pieces, where you're capturing super extreme emotion/crying. Some extend into self harm or showing cuts/drinking/smoking weed etc.

Some will commission wedding themed images or just cutesy "couple" images - I remember one I was asked to render in a "Flying spaghetti monster" in the night sky looking all ethereal, that one was wild ahahah :')

Then there are also some who, I don't know if they can't have families, or if they haven't found the right person yet or what, but they're suuuuper family centred and will create "fursona's" for their entire, solely online families.
They'll have husbands/wives, children, sisters, parents, grand parents, the whole shebang - All just other furries they met online roleplaying being a family.

Then ofc there's the relatively small subset who just want sex stuff, I genuinely feel this is older teens/young twenties people who generally just have high sex drives.
However this tends to fade away as they get older. Commissioners who would once want only NSFW work from me over the years gradually wanted more SFW stuff, until they didn't really get NSFW stuff at all anymore.

I could post some of the SFW stuff I've done for people if you'd like to literally see what kind of thing they'd commission?

I genuinely think it would floor people to know how much money furries have to throw around on a whim, and how many are in positions of power or working at super well know companies relatively high up and on high wages.

ah the old days of listening to the modem connect!

I don't think the issue is one child furry inadvertently turning other children into furries. More that today it's so easy for the adult wrong uns that walk amongst us that would use this as a good way to groom and abuse children.

Your friend may have been subjected to a very early version of what happens now, or he may have avoided it completely. The fact that he continued a childhood thing into adult hood that now has a sexual element for him would suggest he probably did come into contact with things he probably shouldn't have whilst still young.

@SpicyMoth thank you for explaining. It is absolutely fascinating. I find myself slightly envious of your friends who get to listen to you vent about this.

And given that this is a thread about furries AND we have a sensitive material button on images so it's not viewable to those just scrolling. I would be fascinated to see what people actually spend their spare cash on!😁

I do also have to add;

Furries have been on this gender train for decades saying all the things TRA's are now.

Maybe this is confirmation bias as I've been around them so much, but my impression of the furry community is that they're deceptively large.

I'm not being funny, I remember all the way back in 2012/2013 there was genuine serious talk in the furry community about how to "come out" as a furry to your friends/family.
It was beyond cringe.