JKR "An Update to My Essay of June 2020"

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https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/an-update-to-my-essay-of-june-2020/

When JKR says "That’s why women and girls want separate changing rooms and public bathrooms" she is reflecting the opinion polls, which all show that a majority of women do not want males, including trans-identified males, in their spaces. JKR can see the vicious punishments that have been inflicted on women who speak out and so she is using her position of strength to speak on behalf of those women. Simples.

I do think it’s a bit rich to suggest that nobody wants to know Rowling’s opinion when her ‘likes’ on social media were forensically analysed before she expressed any opinion on this subject.

Can JKR speak for all women?

No

Does any women have the right to speak for other women to allow males into women only spaces?

No.

Good, glad we cleared that one up.

It sums up all these threads that when it comes to the practicalities, @CoolforKats isn't able to answer. It’s all poncy language and no substance.

I have looked at everyone views on this - when it comes down to practical details on how to deal with ‘inclusive’ ie free for all toilets, it becomes ludicrous. One way mirrors, weighted floors etc.

We need simple, functional, safe, hygienic so easy to clean toilets that are cost effective and have a high turnover in the shortest time. That is cubicles (with door gaps over and under the doors and partitions as permitted in single sex environments) in a separate sex environment.

Going back to JKR and her discussion on privileged beliefs it also applies to toilet design. The builders tend to think along health and safety lines as do the Health and Safety Executive and Building Safety Regulator. It’s certain trendy architects with an agenda, and people with no experience but with an agenda who do not follow regulations and reinvent toilet designs.

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Exactly. That’s all you’ve got.

All of these discussions end up here, as to what unites women, and simultaneously means no so-called 'transwoman' can ever enter the fold.

Since they don't have anything of substance, the TRAs wander away, and come back to try their luck later when they think the coast is clear🙄

It must be really difficult being lumbered with the dumbest ideology ever.

That is an impressive response - in one character you have told us so much about you and your arguments...

my commiserations.

What's the biological sex of the cat that's got your tongue ?😅

I just don't think that argument will convince the ECHR of anything, and that is your problem, not JKR.

KTS has saved lives - literally in person and regularly through her research, passion and determination to ensure safety in toilets is paramount. That all you can muster in response is a sneery use of an emoji doesn't shock me in the least, in fact, in doing so you just remind us of your inadequacies.

I think @CoolforKats is saying he’s a wee bit tired from all the shouting into the void, and as it’s very late in the Southern Hemisphere he’s off for a little sleep.

I’m speaking on behalf of women as a sex. I respect the rights of other women to have opinions that differ from my own on this and many other topics. But I don’t have to think they’re right.

You know there's no actual argument to be had when the main disagreement with JKRs long essay is that she didn't put the words 'almost all' in front of the word 'women'.

Wotevah 🤷‍♀️

If anyone's a Redditor, the subreddit r/BlockedandReported has quite a bit to say on the subject.

Blimey, I thought anything pro-JKR or pro-women's rights got nuked on Reddit. Is the tide turning or is this subreddit an outlying corner of sanity?

I'm not sure, but here's hoping!

r/fourthwavewomen is similar, just discovered to much surprise. Interesting point about TiM mods on Reddit taking over the feminist subs and deleting and banning women's posts, now ousted (hopefully).

Just saw this and was genuinely surprised by the comments:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlockedAndReported/comments/1xf3ruh/jk_rowlings_update_on_the_essay_that_started_the/

Yep, definitely very surprising! TRAs like to say it's just Mumsnet with these views, turns out it really isn't.

The situation on Reddit is in flux. TiM moderators are still a thing because Reddit can't run without them.

Some more obnoxious ones have been let go, including one who turned up (from the US) in Hawkes Bay when I was living there, to have a go at me personally.

However, tho they tolerate some gender critical subs, due to the plummeting popularity of gender ideology, they are always looking for excuses to boot people for things like so-called 'misgendering' and nearly anything can count as 'spreading hate'.

In the end, one's survival on Reddit is a day to day thing. I keep ahead of their systems - it's nearly impossible to keep you out if you set your mind to it, but the quality of the discussions is such that I may drop Reddit next year.

Telegraph and the dreaded Daily Mail are very TWAM too although I'm not sure if that's always been the case as I didn't used to read them.

I was so happy to find Mumsnet as it was the only website where people were allowed to say the emporer was wearing no clothes*

*i.e. is a bloke in a dress.

OMG they came to your house?! How did they get your address? That is harassment. What happened?

Hard agree on the quality of the content. Lot of bots and AI these days, but the medical subs and hobby subs are kind of still OK.

I only post on my football teams sub, and that's great re match updates given I don't have TNT. The only way you'd get banned is to question Unai Emery 😂

Was a 'transwoman' aka fat bloke with long hair, who came into the pub (not my house) and there were a few of us there. So he couldn't do much except scream, then stalked off when it became obvious he wasn't welcome. It's been 'dealt with' now, but even so, Reddit banned the account I had at that time, a few months later.