Irish Presidency of the Council of Europe

[FanOfGailDines]

Ireland has the presidency of the Council of Europe until December.

Ireland has gender self-ID, it has gender identity embedded in its school curriculum, its institutions and media toe the line with an unquestioned priority of trans rights over all other rights and 'no debate'.

And yet... for the vast majority of Irish people this is either unknown or unpopular. Of the fifty or so dog walking conversations I've had in the last month I haven't found anyone from any age or walk of life that has not said either, "I didn't know that" or "It's madness isn't it!?"

You have a captured country -- its institutions and media and schools but very little support from the voters.

I think this presidency could be a chance to make some changes in Europe and in Ireland.

Ireland has 14 Members of the European Parliament (MEPs) elected for the 2024–2029 session:

Dublin

• Barry Andrews (Fianna Fáil / Renew Europe)
• Regina Doherty (Fine Gael / EPP)
• Lynn Boylan (Sinn Féin / The Left)
• Aodhán Ó Ríordáin (Labour / S&D) 1]

Midlands-North-West

• Luke 'Ming' Flanagan (Independent / The Left)
• Barry Cowen (Fianna Fáil / Renew Europe)
• Maria Walsh (Fine Gael / EPP)
• Nina Carberry (Fine Gael / EPP)
• Ciaran Mullooly (Independent Ireland / Renew Europe) 1]

South

• Seán Kelly (Fine Gael / EPP)
• Billy Kelleher (Fianna Fáil / Renew Europe)
• Michael McNamara (Independent / Renew Europe)
• Cynthia Ní Mhurchú (Fianna Fáil / Renew Europe)
• Kathleen Funchion (Sinn Féin / The Left) 1, 2]

Anyone want to join me in writing to them? Trying to get them involved. If they realise how unpopular this is with voters that might make them stand up.

There is a meeting by Athena Forum who are bringing the debate to Brussels on the 3rd November. That could be a place to start. To encourage the MEPs to go and listen to Helen Joyce and Anne Kalvig amongst other impressive women.

https://athena-forum.eu

Race-baiting CRT claptrap, all part of the made up bollocks that is Queer Theory. Gender idiots are all about identity, so collectively they are a movement of Identertertarians. If the cap fits.
You still don't give a damn about historical injustices against the Irish, you're just hijacking someone else's just cause to use as validation for your manufactured outrage.
The vast majority of Irish people know what a woman is, it's just the self serving political elites who pretend not to.

"Race-baiting CRT claptrap" = Calling out the power status quo

The Irish see you….

They see right through you and your baldadash.

'I said what I said '.

At least what I said made sense unlike the dribble you're cut and pasting.

I understand this position, but please remember your privilege here.

What about the women who are now denied single sex domestic violence shelters, single sex intimate medical care, single sex rape counselling provision?

What about the women currently incarcerated with men in Limerick prison?

Sadly, it is the most vulnerable women in society who are impacted most profoundly by pretending men can become women. And these women do not have a strong voice in our society.

I don't entirely agree - yes, I just bought heating oil that I'll be lucky will get me to Christmas (thank goodness for the mild weather right now) and it cost me more than twice what it cost 5 years ago.

BUT my friends (other mums) are all aware of this issue, and have the occasional rant - and it absolutely played into the choices we made for the schools our children moved to from Primary, and we're all keeping an eye. In fact a number of parents complained when one year the school flew the 'progress' flag, as we didn't feel it was appropriate for a primary school for 'inclusion day' - especially in a school where physical and mental disabilities weren't unusual, but nothing was done for disability awareness day (yes they do sex ed in 5th, but that's still a very functional type of education, rather than the more emotional stuff they do at secondary).

Sorry, but what are you talking about?

She means the recent referendum where the proposal to take the word 'mother' from the constitution was rejected I presume.

She obviously didn’t understand the referendum result then.

Most of us (in rural Ireland in particular) don’t care about what the government decrees and will do our own thing anyway.

So whilst the govt. is definitely captured, I think most people think it’s utter bullshit and happily ignore it. There’s a local family resource centre that host the alphabet soup days etc. but I’m not convinced it’s well attended.

My teen son is gay and has enough trouble from school over it. He definitely doesn’t support the Trans bollocks as he knows they don’t really support gay and lesbian folk and it actually causes them more harm being lumped in with the Drag dressed up weirdos.

Thankfully, Irish folk don’t worry too much about being polite and will be quite robust with their opinions. 😂

There is this mad difference here between the bonkers law and what the kids are being taught etc. and it having much impact in a day-to-day way for most people. I agree, although I have come across several trans-identifying people here in the last couple of years.

It's not always so obvious: I met a girl at Shannon who was dressed exactly like me (I'm quite often wearing my husband's clothes as I hate shopping). She unexpectedly told us that despite her appearance she was actually a boy. I quietly said at the end of our conversation, "You're not thinking of taking any hormones or having surgery are you though?" and she then told me how she was desperate to get her breasts removed and was really annoyed at how terrible the trans care was in not giving her that.

It is a huge issue because it breaks trust: I can't quite trust the breastfeeding association or the scouts or the schools or government or the teacher training colleges or the universities or the women's organisations or the therapists or the doctors or youth groups or the publishers or the media or the art groups or some sports organisations or government or the church... the list goes on.

At least here in Ireland there are sound people to have a chat to. I'm very grateful for that.

Politely but very firmly, Choppingwoodcarryingwater, may I ask tell you to avoid speaking for 'The Irish'.

The legal and societal situation here in regards to sex and gender is complicated. It is entirely accurate to say that whatever the law says, there is plenty of evidence of widespread acceptance of the scientific fact that human sex is binary and immutable, and making laws that suggest a man can become legal woman, or vice versa, is a load of ráiméis.

Thank you to FanOfGailDines for your leadership in this, I'll chip and do my bit

Opps, I’m sorry @TheywontletmehavethenameIwant.
I somehow managed to get the completely wrong meaning from your earlier comment 😳 Ignore my previous post please, apologies.

Although I just watched on YouTube the RTÉ Prime Time Report 'Leading Doctors Report HSE to HIQA over transgender care.

Very good report.

Apology accepted. 😁