Irish Presidency of the Council of Europe

[FanOfGailDines]

Ireland has the presidency of the Council of Europe until December.

Ireland has gender self-ID, it has gender identity embedded in its school curriculum, its institutions and media toe the line with an unquestioned priority of trans rights over all other rights and 'no debate'.

And yet... for the vast majority of Irish people this is either unknown or unpopular. Of the fifty or so dog walking conversations I've had in the last month I haven't found anyone from any age or walk of life that has not said either, "I didn't know that" or "It's madness isn't it!?"

You have a captured country -- its institutions and media and schools but very little support from the voters.

I think this presidency could be a chance to make some changes in Europe and in Ireland.

Ireland has 14 Members of the European Parliament (MEPs) elected for the 2024–2029 session:

Dublin

• Barry Andrews (Fianna Fáil / Renew Europe)
• Regina Doherty (Fine Gael / EPP)
• Lynn Boylan (Sinn Féin / The Left)
• Aodhán Ó Ríordáin (Labour / S&D) 1]

Midlands-North-West

• Luke 'Ming' Flanagan (Independent / The Left)
• Barry Cowen (Fianna Fáil / Renew Europe)
• Maria Walsh (Fine Gael / EPP)
• Nina Carberry (Fine Gael / EPP)
• Ciaran Mullooly (Independent Ireland / Renew Europe) 1]

South

• Seán Kelly (Fine Gael / EPP)
• Billy Kelleher (Fianna Fáil / Renew Europe)
• Michael McNamara (Independent / Renew Europe)
• Cynthia Ní Mhurchú (Fianna Fáil / Renew Europe)
• Kathleen Funchion (Sinn Féin / The Left) 1, 2]

Anyone want to join me in writing to them? Trying to get them involved. If they realise how unpopular this is with voters that might make them stand up.

There is a meeting by Athena Forum who are bringing the debate to Brussels on the 3rd November. That could be a place to start. To encourage the MEPs to go and listen to Helen Joyce and Anne Kalvig amongst other impressive women.

https://athena-forum.eu

Just listened to an excellent interview on Gender A Wider Lens Episode 169: Growing up with a Trans Parent with Emma Thomas from Children of Transitioners. Emma's final bit of advice was that writing to government representatives and generally writing to organisations to raise awareness or to people who have some capacity to make changes is really important work and does do something... eventually.

childrenoftransitioners.org

Good luck to you women of Ireland forming a resistance movement.

My nan was irish, Kerry woman, born 1911. A world so very different, from now.

i have an emotional attachment to ireland having visited many times.

I often muse about how, the most historically, sexist misogynistic countries, in the western world are the most vulnerable to capture.

It is very deeply embedded and with that absolute loon, Enoch Burke, conveniently being the face of gender criticism it will be difficult.

I had a discussion with a young person, who works for RTE, asking why Helen Joyce had never been invited on the Late Late Show but Enoch B had? The little smirk showed exactly why.

I'll write to the Late Late Show too and ask them why they have not invited Helen Joyce?!

I often muse about how, the most historically, sexist misogynistic countries, in the western world are the most vulnerable to capture.

interesting point.

It is much easier to see harms and to speak up about something if it doesn't feel too alien and you have had personal experiences in that world, whatever it might be. That can apply country-wide.

@FanOfGailDines Am not sure what you mean no offence meant

No offence taken! It wasn't very clear and actually might be a nonsense point but I was thinking at a personal level I have found it easier than other people around me to say something about the harms of porn culture for children because my teen years were in a culture in the 90s that was hypersexualised (not Ireland) and I think I have found it easier to speak up about gender ideology because I know trans identified people and also are familiar with the arts scene and underground cultures etc. It makes it more comfortable to speak up. If you have a country that is very traditional then people are unsure about piping up perhaps?

I consider myself English. But my nan’s life fascinated me. And she created my connection with Ireland through her very own experiences, she left as the last of her younger sisters, to work in munitions. She escaped women's oppression, which was marginally worse in Ireland.

in 1945 she had my mum, and brought her up by herself, and never married.

Her sisters also in England kept her secret. Her parents never knew of any of us as the subsequent generation. Until a funeral…..

Priests, who were my aunts and sisters friends, funded my Nan, kept her safe.

priests i might add who were sexually active

and I am here now because of it all.

back to irish state vulnerability to gender identity politics the guilt and shame is massive they have in my humble opinion over adjusted.

I think the porn thing is a global problem not unique to ireland.

Global it is but there are hot spots and Ireland is one of them.

Email sent to Late Late Show. Would be worth asking why Stella O'Malley isn't appearing on programmes either.

RTÉ has been bought and paid for, by the government, with your money. Just like all the "mainstream media" in Ireland who take government funding via CnM, the new State censorship board. They will never allow a platform to Helen Joyce, Stella O'Malley, or any other dissenting voice. They have been blacklisted.

Actually all the people I know (here in Ireland) don’t give a crap, we’re worried about col, so fuel and food prices, possibility of storms, war, job security, ai etc. Nobody knows this because we have bigger worries in life at the moment, the whole world does

I think the same can be said in the UK that is how they get away with it.

That is a fair point. Prices here are nuts. There is lots to worry about but people I have talked to do seem to care though.

FanOfGailDines

prices are so scary at the moment!!!

Maybe when they realise that the government is away with the fairies and has lost touch with reality, so is unlikely to come up with any real world solutions to the real world problems everyone else is having to deal with, they might suddenly start giving a crap.
Just like the rest of us are starting to realise how long all the governments have been a sleep at the wheel.
Good luck to you OP with your pushback, I'm got my own captured country draining my energy.

Ireland has gender self-ID, it has gender identity embedded in its school curriculum, its institutions and media toe the line with an unquestioned priority of trans rights over all other rights and 'no debate'.

And yet... for the vast majority of Irish people this is either unknown or unpopular.

Presumably the Irish people are mostly united with anti discrimination of minorities though so this is patently false.

I think they're more united against the discrimination of half the population, by the urban elites, if the results of a recent referendum is anything to go by.

Like a lot of gender critical proponents you seem to be confusing niche issues with principles. To imagine the Irish people don't believe people have a right to identity smells like British imperialist projection given that the right to their own sovereignty largely underpinned their battle against the English. After all, the centuries long conflict between Ireland and England was deeply rooted in the preservation of Irish identity, culture, language, and religion against English colonisation & assimilation.

I do think the law is crazy but in fairness maybe people don’t see it as a huge issue. I’ve never actually met a trans person in Ireland, I don’t think (and I don’t live in a rural backwater).

None of which means anything to you because like all identertertarians the only identity you're concerned about are the made up codswallop identities of Queer Theory.
Attempting to force team your rubbish with Irish identity is fooling nobody, and trying to hitch your manufactured outrage on historical injustices just shows how empty Identiterism is.

So compared to, for example, lack of abortion rights (only recently changed but obviously of much greater consequence to my life), sexism in work, unequal division of labour between men and women, being shouted at or touched in the street by men, it just doesn’t seem like a huge feminism issue.

"identertertarians"

White people who deny their own efforts at maintaining their identity at the apex of hierarchy: 'Everyone else is an 'identertertarian' (causing division) but us!'

Giving far right 2016….