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AsWithGlad · 04/09/2026 19:22

Welcome to The Bluestocking, the best (perhaps only) online women's pub. Nothing in the food or drink can harm you, everything is served by a very enthusiastic crew of gerbils, who enjoy doing this, and any curious menfolk are welcome at the Staunch Ally down the road.

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Welcome to The Bluestocking, the best (perhaps only) online women's pub. Nothing in the food or drink can harm you, everything is served by a very ent...

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MyrtleLion · 11/09/2026 19:55

SionnachRuadh · 11/09/2026 17:57

And, since I couldn't link it, here is what amused me

The Walrus and I just watched this. We couldn't believe that she is so surprised that these old English drinks actually taste nice!

Well, of course! We're bored and we like booze and we have a sweet tooth, of course they're going to be nice. How else can we get to sleep when the sun goes down at 4pm in winter and there's nothing else to do except new ways of getting pissed?!

PastaAllaNorma · 11/09/2026 20:12

AngleofRepose · 11/09/2026 19:49

This is hilarious! I think the milk punch would make me want to vomit as well. I'm mostly just enjoying watching her get slowly more and more tanked the longer the video goes on 😆

I've sent it to the kids, as "what a fellow countrywoman thinks about the traditions of your birth nation."

There were many hotels of disgust then laughter and the clarified milk punch.

MyrtleLion · 11/09/2026 20:36

42. Lincolnshire

In which choir practice runs late…

@MarieDeGournay had rung the telephone number of the Lincolnshire Trust four times a day for four days. She had rung at 9am, 11am, 2pm and half past four, on the principle that a Trust which did not answer at one time of day might answer at another, and on the fifth morning she had put the phone down mid-ring, packed a bag and driven to Lincolnshire to find out who was not picking up.

The Trust’s address, according to the register of charities, was a firm of solicitors above a shoe shop in a market town. The shoe shop was there. The solicitors were not. A brass plate remained beside the side door with four screw holes under it where a second plate had been, and the woman in the shoe shop said they had moved to new premises by the cattle market three years ago and she still got their post.

“I keep it in a box,” she said. “Nobody has ever come for it.”

Marie asked whether she might see the box. The woman said she could see the box but not what was in it, because that was the law, and Marie said that was quite right, and looked at the box, and went to the cattle market.

The new premises had a bell, a carpet, and a woman behind a desk who knew the Trust at once. The secretary to the Trust came in on Thursdays. It was Friday. Marie asked whether the secretary could be telephoned, and the woman dialled a number, and the two of them sat and listened to it ring.

“That is the number I have,” said Marie.

“It’s the only one there is.”

“Where does it ring?”

The woman turned the card over and read what was printed on the back. “The Chapter House.”

The Chapter House stood on its own at the far end of a village which had lost the rest of its priory in the 1530s and kept the one room nobody could find a use for. It was octagonal. The village called it the chapel and had done for four hundred years. It sat behind a wall with a gate in it, and the gate had a chain, and on the chain was a padlock a great deal newer than the gate.

Marie walked all the way round the wall. On the far side a field of cattle came up to it, and beyond the cattle a man on a tractor was doing something slow to a hedge. She waited at the fence until he came near enough to be shouted at.

“Key?” he said, over the engine. “Her at the farm.”

Her at the farm was a woman in wellingtons who had the padlock key on a hook by the door and handed it over at once and then took it back.

“That’s the gate,” she said. “The door’s not mine. The door went to the churchwarden when the Trust stopped answering. Somebody has to be able to get in if the roof goes.”

“Where is the churchwarden?”

“Choir.”

The parish church was a mile away, and full of sound. Marie stood at the back through two verses of something in four-part harmony and a long discussion about breathing. Eventually a tall woman with a folder was pointed out to her as the churchwarden. She told Marie that the door key had been with her but was now with her sister, who did the chapel floor twice a year, and had done it last week, and would still have the key in her coat.

“Where is your sister?”

“Pub.”

Marie went to the pub. The sister was not in the pub. The sister had been in the pub and had left ten minutes before to go home by way of the chapel, because she had a feeling she had left her bucket there.

Marie drove back towards the chapel. A small blue car appeared behind her on the lane and stayed there, close, through two bends and a dip, and pulled in when she pulled in, and a woman got out of it holding a coat.

“You’re the one asking about the key,” she said. “Everyone’s rung me. You’ve been round the whole village in an hour and a half.” She took a ring of keys out of the coat pocket and found the right one by feel. “Brenda said you were foreign.”

“French.”

“That’s what I said.” The woman looked at the padlock and gave the chain a shake. “I don’t know why they bothered with a new one. There’s nothing in there.”

The padlock opened and then the chain came off. The gate had dropped on its hinges and had to be lifted up. The path beyond it was flagstones with grass growing between them, and the door at the end of the path was oak, black with age, iron bound, set into a wall of brick that had turned the colour of old tea.

Marie inserted the key and turned it a quarter turn before it stopped.

“It does that,” said the woman, and put her shoulder against the wood, and the door gave with a sound that carried across the field and startled the cattle.

Inside, the room was eight sided and paved, the flags worn into hollows by centuries of feet. It smelt of cold stone and floor polish. The wall with the door in it was brick, and the next two sides of the octagon were glass. Then another side of brick. Opposite the door was a window, plain, clear, leaded in squares, with the light of a flat grey afternoon coming through it onto a prie-dieu that stood on the flags in front of it. The same pattern continued on the right side of the octagon, a brick side then two sides of glass, then back to the door.

Three sides of brick. Five of big glass panes leaded in squares, a little green in the thick places, no colour anywhere.

There was nothing else. No altar. No boards on the walls with names. No cupboard. The telephone was on the floor by the door with its cord going up to a socket in the brick.

Marie walked the eight sides once, slowly, and put her hand flat against each of the three brick walls. She looked at the prie-dieu without touching it. She stood there and looked through the plain window opposite at the back of a hedge.

“Told you,” said the sister, from the door. “Bucket.”

The bucket was behind the prie-dieu. The sister collected it. Marie wrote in her notebook, standing, the order of the walls going round from the door, and the number of panes in the window opposite, which was twenty four, and then closed the notebook and asked whether she might keep the key overnight.

“You can keep it a week if you like,” said the sister. “It’s only a chapel.”

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/42-lincolnshire

The Bluestocking, a unique location for daughters and sisters of earth, frost, feathers, fur, scales and spines
NotAtMyAge · 11/09/2026 20:45

AngleofRepose · 11/09/2026 10:39

Bore da!

"I WILL SHOUT QUIETLY.” 😁 Yay for Gantry!

Thanks for the latest chapter @MyrtleLion
I love the banter and the fact that Bluestockingers just keep popping in and flying out! That picture is superb, as well.

I'm afraid that Grisaille is quite wrong, as is Gwenllian (Pembrokeshire is notoriously considered NOT Cymru Cymraeg, although it depends on who you get into an argument with 😬) But, I do love Grisaille's absolute conviction with all of her "facts."

Feeling a bit low this morning, as I've realized that it is 25 years since 9/11, and I don't suppose I'll ever feel right about this day again. Strange to think there has been an entire generation of kids who have grown up knowing this day only as "history."

I suppose it's similar to how my parents felt when they heard about Kennedy or Martin Luther King, or Kent State.

It's always a strange day for me.

But, the tractors and horses discussion is cheering me up. And Sleeping Beauty's thorn forest? Blackthorn, would be my guess!

My only visit to New York was with DS in 2007, but I can never forget 9/11 itself. I was travelling up to Cheshire with a friend and colleague for a residential training event that day and we were talking so much we didn't bother putting the radio on. This meant we arrived at the training centre totally unaware of what had been unfolding, to find our other colleagues, who had heard the news, looking shell-shocked and very subdued. We didn't get a chance to see any images of the attack until the end of the evening session when we all piled into the common room to watch the 10 o'clock news. Next morning I went out before breakfast to find a newspaper and managed to buy the last copy of the Guardian which had full coverage. I still have it at the back of my filing cabinet.

EmpressaurusKitty · 11/09/2026 20:50

MyrtleLion · 11/09/2026 20:36

42. Lincolnshire

In which choir practice runs late…

@MarieDeGournay had rung the telephone number of the Lincolnshire Trust four times a day for four days. She had rung at 9am, 11am, 2pm and half past four, on the principle that a Trust which did not answer at one time of day might answer at another, and on the fifth morning she had put the phone down mid-ring, packed a bag and driven to Lincolnshire to find out who was not picking up.

The Trust’s address, according to the register of charities, was a firm of solicitors above a shoe shop in a market town. The shoe shop was there. The solicitors were not. A brass plate remained beside the side door with four screw holes under it where a second plate had been, and the woman in the shoe shop said they had moved to new premises by the cattle market three years ago and she still got their post.

“I keep it in a box,” she said. “Nobody has ever come for it.”

Marie asked whether she might see the box. The woman said she could see the box but not what was in it, because that was the law, and Marie said that was quite right, and looked at the box, and went to the cattle market.

The new premises had a bell, a carpet, and a woman behind a desk who knew the Trust at once. The secretary to the Trust came in on Thursdays. It was Friday. Marie asked whether the secretary could be telephoned, and the woman dialled a number, and the two of them sat and listened to it ring.

“That is the number I have,” said Marie.

“It’s the only one there is.”

“Where does it ring?”

The woman turned the card over and read what was printed on the back. “The Chapter House.”

The Chapter House stood on its own at the far end of a village which had lost the rest of its priory in the 1530s and kept the one room nobody could find a use for. It was octagonal. The village called it the chapel and had done for four hundred years. It sat behind a wall with a gate in it, and the gate had a chain, and on the chain was a padlock a great deal newer than the gate.

Marie walked all the way round the wall. On the far side a field of cattle came up to it, and beyond the cattle a man on a tractor was doing something slow to a hedge. She waited at the fence until he came near enough to be shouted at.

“Key?” he said, over the engine. “Her at the farm.”

Her at the farm was a woman in wellingtons who had the padlock key on a hook by the door and handed it over at once and then took it back.

“That’s the gate,” she said. “The door’s not mine. The door went to the churchwarden when the Trust stopped answering. Somebody has to be able to get in if the roof goes.”

“Where is the churchwarden?”

“Choir.”

The parish church was a mile away, and full of sound. Marie stood at the back through two verses of something in four-part harmony and a long discussion about breathing. Eventually a tall woman with a folder was pointed out to her as the churchwarden. She told Marie that the door key had been with her but was now with her sister, who did the chapel floor twice a year, and had done it last week, and would still have the key in her coat.

“Where is your sister?”

“Pub.”

Marie went to the pub. The sister was not in the pub. The sister had been in the pub and had left ten minutes before to go home by way of the chapel, because she had a feeling she had left her bucket there.

Marie drove back towards the chapel. A small blue car appeared behind her on the lane and stayed there, close, through two bends and a dip, and pulled in when she pulled in, and a woman got out of it holding a coat.

“You’re the one asking about the key,” she said. “Everyone’s rung me. You’ve been round the whole village in an hour and a half.” She took a ring of keys out of the coat pocket and found the right one by feel. “Brenda said you were foreign.”

“French.”

“That’s what I said.” The woman looked at the padlock and gave the chain a shake. “I don’t know why they bothered with a new one. There’s nothing in there.”

The padlock opened and then the chain came off. The gate had dropped on its hinges and had to be lifted up. The path beyond it was flagstones with grass growing between them, and the door at the end of the path was oak, black with age, iron bound, set into a wall of brick that had turned the colour of old tea.

Marie inserted the key and turned it a quarter turn before it stopped.

“It does that,” said the woman, and put her shoulder against the wood, and the door gave with a sound that carried across the field and startled the cattle.

Inside, the room was eight sided and paved, the flags worn into hollows by centuries of feet. It smelt of cold stone and floor polish. The wall with the door in it was brick, and the next two sides of the octagon were glass. Then another side of brick. Opposite the door was a window, plain, clear, leaded in squares, with the light of a flat grey afternoon coming through it onto a prie-dieu that stood on the flags in front of it. The same pattern continued on the right side of the octagon, a brick side then two sides of glass, then back to the door.

Three sides of brick. Five of big glass panes leaded in squares, a little green in the thick places, no colour anywhere.

There was nothing else. No altar. No boards on the walls with names. No cupboard. The telephone was on the floor by the door with its cord going up to a socket in the brick.

Marie walked the eight sides once, slowly, and put her hand flat against each of the three brick walls. She looked at the prie-dieu without touching it. She stood there and looked through the plain window opposite at the back of a hedge.

“Told you,” said the sister, from the door. “Bucket.”

The bucket was behind the prie-dieu. The sister collected it. Marie wrote in her notebook, standing, the order of the walls going round from the door, and the number of panes in the window opposite, which was twenty four, and then closed the notebook and asked whether she might keep the key overnight.

“You can keep it a week if you like,” said the sister. “It’s only a chapel.”

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/42-lincolnshire

Edited

I’m thoroughly intrigued now, Myrtle.

MyrtleLion · 11/09/2026 20:57

EmpressaurusKitty · 11/09/2026 20:50

I’m thoroughly intrigued now, Myrtle.

Good. The plan is working!

NotAtMyAge · 11/09/2026 20:58

SionnachRuadh · 11/09/2026 17:53

Hello!

I'm not dead, just been dealing with some health issues and other priorities.

I like Adventures and Naps. If you don't know her, she's a Canadian YouTuber living in the UK who reacts to UK stuff. I especially enjoy her booze episodes as she gets progressively more wasted while trying traditional British drinks.

Edited

Really lovely to see you, SionnachRuadh. I do hope your health issues are resolving themselves, as well as your other priorities.

MarieDeGournay · 11/09/2026 22:31

Ooooh it's me! I'm in Lincolnshire getting the runaround, and finally getting access to somewhere that is almost completely empty....or is it?😮

Thank you Myrtle, it's so intriguing.

Sionnach! great to see you! This morning I was looking around for a - I nearly said 'photo' - of you to post along with a wave, in case you popped your
head around the door. And there you were, a short time laterSmile
You're often on my mind because as often as not one of your cousins spends a few hours sleeping soundly in my back garden.

Sorry to hear you've been through tough times, hope you're winningWink

The Bluestocking, a unique location for daughters and sisters of earth, frost, feathers, fur, scales and spines
RumNotRun · 12/09/2026 00:49

I was in a remote part of Hungary on an archaeological dig when 9/11 happened. We came back from site at lunchtime to our hunting lodge in a little village to be greeted by some of the other students who told us planes had hit the towers. One chap was beside himself as his family's best friends all worked in the towers. He was glued to the landline trying to get through to his parents to see if the family were ok (thankfully they were). We were watching the news in Hungarian and German so a student, from Budapest university who was working with us, was trying ger best to translate for us. It was so surreal. I think I had a mobile but I don't remember having it over there, or maybe it was too expensive to use abroad. We had no contact with our families unless we used the one computer or landline, so didn't hear any English speaking news till we were back in the UK. We flew back a week or so later and were told to be at the airport 6 hours early. The only extra security was another scanner at the front door.

I recently found out that the person training me at work wasn't even born when 9/11 happened. She was taught about it at school!!

AngleofRepose · 12/09/2026 07:53

NotAtMyAge · 11/09/2026 20:45

My only visit to New York was with DS in 2007, but I can never forget 9/11 itself. I was travelling up to Cheshire with a friend and colleague for a residential training event that day and we were talking so much we didn't bother putting the radio on. This meant we arrived at the training centre totally unaware of what had been unfolding, to find our other colleagues, who had heard the news, looking shell-shocked and very subdued. We didn't get a chance to see any images of the attack until the end of the evening session when we all piled into the common room to watch the 10 o'clock news. Next morning I went out before breakfast to find a newspaper and managed to buy the last copy of the Guardian which had full coverage. I still have it at the back of my filing cabinet.

Not, I still have some old newspapers from that week as well. I once decided to throw them out, because I couldn't bear to read them more than once, but I'm glad I changed my mind. I put them back in the box, and I haven't looked at them since. I don't need the newspapers in order to remember. But, these days, I guess it's history, so someone will be glad to have them someday I suppose.

AngleofRepose · 12/09/2026 07:59

@RumNotRun
I recently found out that the person training me at work wasn't even born when 9/11 happened. She was taught about it at school!!

Nothing to do with 9/11, but I found something very old recently that I had brought with me across the Pond all those years ago which, for some reason, reminded me of my early teenage years. And I suddenly realized that the little baby boy that I used to babysit when I was a teenager is now 48!!

If that hadn't made me feel old, I don't know what would've!😁

AngleofRepose · 12/09/2026 08:03

Bar gerbils, a large cup of coffee and, if anyone is in the kitchen yet, a cheesy omelette please? I have stuff to do in the garden today so I'll need the energy.

Morning, everyone! It's cloudy and a bit grim here, but not complaining...the garden is looking much happier.

EmpressaurusKitty · 12/09/2026 08:10

Coffee for me too please!

Kitty woke me about half an hour ago to tell me she was glad I was back. I need to unpack, put washing on & go shopping today.

Boiledbeetle · 12/09/2026 09:05

I'll have a builder's tea and a full English if we are placing orders. I'll have it as room service. And tell Gwen I know she eats one of my sausages whilst she's in the lift.

DauntlessDamson · 12/09/2026 09:14

Flat white coffee and a bacon sarnie please, gerbils. I feel I need the (non) calories today.

It's wet, miserable and quite cool here today. I had my gas boiler serviced yesterday and the engineer left the thermostat timer on, ready for the winter. It came on briefly at 6.30 this morning, so it must have been quite chilly overnight. Big change from yesterday, which I spent most of in the garden.

MarieDeGournay · 12/09/2026 10:08

Morning all, cup of strong tea and a slice of toast for me please gerbils.

I've been reading all your memories of 9/11.
I happened to be off work that day and heard on the radio that a plane had hit the WTC, turned on my TV and watched the whole thing unfold in real time.
Two things stood out for me: people helping each other. People running for their lives, but pausing to help someone in trouble. A random man standing holding some bottles shouting 'I have water, anybody need water'.
And the fearful but resigned look on the faces of the firefighters getting ready to go into the towers, knowing they were likely to die there, but they had to try to rescue people.

A woman who was in NYC that day said on the radio this morning that what she recalled was the togetherness, the kindness - she said you could have been walking naked down the street and somebody, anybody would have taken the coat off their back to cover you.

It didn't last, but it proved that deep down, the ❤in I ❤NEW YORK is true.

Magpiecomplex · 12/09/2026 10:33

Morning all. Just waved off senior offspring back to uni. Junior offspring emerged from his room for long enough to say an awkward goodbye and has now returned to the pit.
I should probably get some laundry going.

DauntlessDamson · 12/09/2026 10:48

More coffee please gerbils. My get-up-and-go seems to have stayed in bed this morning😴

RandomHypatia · 12/09/2026 11:02

A full Scottish (link, not lorne) and huge hot chocolate with cream and chocolate flake please. Had MasterRandom's friend round to play and I'm knackered now.

DauntlessDamson · 12/09/2026 11:24

RandomHypatia · 12/09/2026 11:02

A full Scottish (link, not lorne) and huge hot chocolate with cream and chocolate flake please. Had MasterRandom's friend round to play and I'm knackered now.

I've seen Lorne sausages on breakfast buffets in Scotland, but have never had one. Looking them up, I was surprised to find they contain beef as well as pork, which I think would put me off eating one for breakfast anyway. I was also surprised to find that, although they are associated with the town of Lorne (Argyll), they were actually made famous by a Scottish comedian, Tommy Lorne, who liked to eat one in a sandwich during breaks in his shows. A chicken and egg situation there, I think, i.e. which came first?

It's amazing what rabbit holes the Bluestocking can send you down!

MarieDeGournay · 12/09/2026 11:31

Magpiecomplex · 12/09/2026 10:33

Morning all. Just waved off senior offspring back to uni. Junior offspring emerged from his room for long enough to say an awkward goodbye and has now returned to the pit.
I should probably get some laundry going.

Back to uni with enthusiasm I hope, like this:

MarieDeGournay · 12/09/2026 11:35

sorry MN slowed down and then I lost the photo of the Enthusiastic Magpie going back to uni.

The Bluestocking, a unique location for daughters and sisters of earth, frost, feathers, fur, scales and spines
Magpiecomplex · 12/09/2026 11:48

MarieDeGournay · 12/09/2026 11:35

sorry MN slowed down and then I lost the photo of the Enthusiastic Magpie going back to uni.

That's a very enthusiastic magpie! I'm not sure he was quite that enthusiastic, but he's always kept his cards close to his chest.

Shortly after he and his father left, I managed to fall down three steps and have sprained my sodding ankle. Fortunately I have ice packs in the freezer and copious quantities of elastic bandages (thanks fibromyalgia) so I'm now reclining elegantly with my foot up, iced, and bandaged, and junior Magpie has just put on the load of washing I was carrying downstairs when I tripped. On the washing, I think. 🤦🏻‍♀️

DauntlessDamson · 12/09/2026 12:46

Magpiecomplex · 12/09/2026 11:48

That's a very enthusiastic magpie! I'm not sure he was quite that enthusiastic, but he's always kept his cards close to his chest.

Shortly after he and his father left, I managed to fall down three steps and have sprained my sodding ankle. Fortunately I have ice packs in the freezer and copious quantities of elastic bandages (thanks fibromyalgia) so I'm now reclining elegantly with my foot up, iced, and bandaged, and junior Magpie has just put on the load of washing I was carrying downstairs when I tripped. On the washing, I think. 🤦🏻‍♀️

That must be really annoying, Magpie, not to say painful. Hope it eases soon.

On the plus side, you should be able to get a full weekend of being waited on hand and .. er, foot, out of it😬

Magpiecomplex · 12/09/2026 13:18

DauntlessDamson · 12/09/2026 12:46

That must be really annoying, Magpie, not to say painful. Hope it eases soon.

On the plus side, you should be able to get a full weekend of being waited on hand and .. er, foot, out of it😬

It's easing off now. I can hobble on it if needed. The other benefit (?) of fibro is a sky high pain tolerance, so I'm aware that I need to keep it elevated and compressed for longer than I think.