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Incel banned from womens toilets and changing rooma

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ArabellaScott · Yesterday 10:51

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9489jewq7o

Known misogynist handed a sexual harm prevention order.

Victor scowls at the camera in a police custody picture. He has a short scruffy beard and thin scraggly hair which falls over his face.

Cheltenham incel who 'posed risk' to women handed harm order

Victor Valentine is banned from using incel websites and loitering outside women's toilets.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9489jewq7o

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Wishesandhorses · Yesterday 15:26

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 15:24

Good point.

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Quite. Nice precedent there.

Waltzing intentionally and repeatedly into women's spaces and harassing them does have consequences. Who knew? The 'I identify as' is no longer teflon.

AimsAndObjectives · Yesterday 15:42

Under the terms of the order, Valentine is only allowed one internet-enabled device at all times. It must be able to retain internet search history and location information, and be immediately available for inspection by police whenever requested.

I wonder how they police how many devices he has?

MyDpsanarse · Yesterday 16:35

And Incels wonder why women don't want anything to do with them. At least the police have made him of public interest rather than leaving him to just offend again unnoticed

MyCrushWithEyeliner · Yesterday 17:47

Lovelyview · Yesterday 13:49

That's interesting. I was looking at the pictures of the young men in Middlesbrough who died going the wrong way on the A66 and wondering why a couple of them made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck. Has anyone done any research into women's accuracy at picking out wrong uns from a series of photos? Having said that my husband and I took photos for a railcard recently and we both look like we've been picked up for shoplifting.

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😂 at the last sentence.

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ArabellaScott · Yesterday 22:34

MyDpsanarse · Yesterday 16:35

And Incels wonder why women don't want anything to do with them. At least the police have made him of public interest rather than leaving him to just offend again unnoticed

I think this was quite a bold move from the police. But in this case, I also think it seemed a sensible one.

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ArabellaScott · Yesterday 22:40

Keeptoiletssafe · Yesterday 13:04

Re: SHPOs

Some SHPOs have gone further and told men they have to stay away from women’s and also unisex toilets for multiple years. I have several examples of this - all male. I would like to know how many men currently have SHPO to stay away from women’s toilets and unisex toilets. I have found various orders but no central information. Does anyone know if this would be collated anywhere? How I can find this information out?

I would also like to know how many staff have been barred from teaching by setting up cameras in school toilets. I got into double figures and lost the list. All male. Be easier to get a definitive list. Don’t know who to contact about this either.

The Department for Education can’t give me any information as they don’t collate incidents in toilets. They have no idea from the FOI requests I have sent.

I think this ViSOR might be the thing that might record that, but looks pretty strictly confidential.

https://unlock.org.uk/advice/information-sex-offence-notification-requirements/

Sex offenders notification requirements (The Register) - Unlock

Aim of this page This information is designed to provide specific information around convictions for sexual offences. In particular, details […]

https://unlock.org.uk/advice/information-sex-offence-notification-requirements/

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ArabellaScott · Yesterday 22:42

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/statistics_regarding_sex_offende?utm_campaign=alaveteli-experiments-87&utm_content=sidebar_similar_requests&utm_medium=link&utm_source=whatdotheyknow

'The sex offenders register is a database known as ViSOR. It was
predominantly designed as a management tool and not a statistical
database, it is not capable of providing historic data rather it provides
details of the individuals that are currently on the register/database. '

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ArabellaScott · Yesterday 22:44

Maybe MAPPA.

https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2024-10-31/12202

'All sex offenders subject to the notification requirements are managed under the multi-agency public protection arrangements (MAPPA), a statutory arrangement requiring the police, probation and prison services in each local criminal justice area to assess and manage the risks posed by individuals convicted of certain offences.
The Ministry of Justice publishes annual MAPPA statistics. The most recent statistics (published 31 October 2024) showed there were 70,052 sex offenders (known as category 1 offenders) managed under MAPPA on 31 March 2024.'

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Keeptoiletssafe · Yesterday 23:41

Thank you @ArabellaScott ! I have had versions of ‘it will take too long as we don’t sort data that way’ with FOIs so it sounds like MAPPA could be right one.

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