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'Pregnant people'

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StickySundew · 18/08/2026 18:01

I know there are more important battles, but this pisses me off and we've learned that gender-centric language is used as a wedge.

Only women get pregnant. Don't try to erase the relevance of female sex. This doesn't happen to men - all the info my friend with prostate cancer gets refers to men with prostate cancer, not 'people with prostate cancer'. There'd be outrage and a lot of hurt if someone tried to set up support for 'people with prostate cancer'.

This time it was the Food Standards Agency, issuing a reminder about the groups most at risk from salmonella poisoning.

I just wanted to let off steam.

So that I have a bit more excuse, let's have an utterly pointless voodoo poll to see how many enablers and TRAs are hanging around.

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6ate9 · Today 13:54

Pallisers · Today 13:50

My children were taught as far back as primary school that your intent and your impact can be wildly different things.

In an attempt to include the tiny minority of women who have a problem being referred to as such thus using "pregnant people" the word woman is wiped from the discussion about pregnancy and childbirth. You cannot have a useful discussion about abortion rights unless you define the people whom it affects - women. The Dobbs decision will have no impact whatsoever on my son's health - nor his decision on where to live. It may well have an impact on my daughters' health and pretending otherwise is just a lie - a lie that excludes women from the very thing that only affects them.

To say nothing of wiping the word "women" from the most dangerous yet incredible thing that we and only we can do with our bodies. every human who ever stood on this earth came from the body of a woman.

“We are all born of woman, and we carry the pulse of the first mother in our blood.”

NotAtMyAge · Today 13:56

thestudio · Today 13:33

Sorry if this has already been said. This is primarily to be inclusive to TIFs and non-binaries, not to TIMs.

I know the principle is the same but I find it mildly less enraging to think of it that way.

They are already included by virtue of being women - adult female humans. Sex cannot be changed. The inner feelings of individuals matter to them, of course, but they are no reason to change or erase the words which belong to and describe the female sex.

CreativeGreen · Today 13:59

TransParentlyAnnoyed · Today 11:43

Trans people exist, albeit in very small numbers. They need healthcare.

You can get as an angry as you want, deny what you want. Fair enough, your life. Doesn't alter that they will keep being born, getting jobs, and dropping sprogs.

People who belong to minorities deserve a health service which welcomes them. We fought for that.

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This is just not an answer to the question. Nobody is saying trans people don't exist or deserve healthcare. Women deserve good maternity services and healthcare generally no matter how they feel about their sex or how they choose to perform whatever they perceive as 'gender'. But 'woman' is the right term for a human gestating a baby.

thestudio · Today 14:00

NotAtMyAge · Today 13:56

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I’m aware and of course it’s all infuriating bollocks.

but as I said, it’s mildly less infuriating to me if it’s not TIM feelings that are being soothed, which some posters were implying.

NotAtMyAge · Today 14:04

thestudio · Today 14:00

I’m aware and of course it’s all infuriating bollocks.

but as I said, it’s mildly less infuriating to me if it’s not TIM feelings that are being soothed, which some posters were implying.

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Fair point. The feelings and behaviour of trans-identified men are another whole minefield.

6ate9 · Today 14:06

NotAtMyAge · Today 14:04

Fair point. The feelings and behaviour of trans-identified men are another whole minefield.

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Ain't that the truth!”

DizzyWhoreEighteenHundredAndFour · Today 14:16

TransParentlyAnnoyed · Today 11:33

Anyone can request a change of doctor or chaperone. It's in the Patients Charter.

I know this because I'm a survivor of childhood physical abuse who's had kids, so have often been examined by cis men.

I would personally prefer a trans woman to examine me over a cis guy, but as always would request someone else be present if one wasn't offered. I don't want any physical exam done without a witness.

Oh and using slurs to describe minorities isn't argument.

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So you don't disagree that it is perfectly acceptable for traumatised women to request a change of doctor on the grounds that she does not wish to be examined by a male, however he presents? And you therefore, by extension, agree that sex is real and single sex care is essential for many women? Thank you.

Also, I did not use a slur for any minority. As someone who ticks several minority boxes myself, I would never do that.

I am sorry about your history - I am also an abuse survivor so I do empathise and understand how upsetting things like medical appointments can be. I hope you are doing okay 💐

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