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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

IPSOS Pride report 2026

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ArabellaScott · 13/08/2026 19:29

https://www.ipsos.com/en/ipsos-pride-report-2026

'Where we continue to find diverging views is on transgender access to single-sex facilities, healthcare provision and participation in sport.'

Ipsos' annual global report looks like it's showing steady support for LGB people, and support for anti discrimination, but declining support for T people getting everything they want whenever they want.

(Report was released in July)

Ipsos Pride Report 2026

Our 2026 edition of the Ipsos LGBT+ Pride report shows attitudes stabilising across 26 countries on several key measures, including trans athletes and LGBT media representation.

https://www.ipsos.com/en/ipsos-pride-report-2026

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AimsAndObjectives · 16/08/2026 13:40

BonfireLady · 16/08/2026 09:58

Not RTFT yet so apologies if this is repeated elsewhere in the comments...

Assuming it is correct reporting, this seems concerning:

An Ipsos Mori poll published this week, part of the Ipsos Mori Pride Report 2026, suggests only 66 per cent of Britons agree with same-sex marriage, down from 82 per cent in 2021. It has been legal in England since 2014.

It would be a significant backwards step for gay and lesbian rights if there is a public shift away from equal rights. TBF I'm slightly amazed that 82% were in favour of it in the first place. Obviously that's great if true but (again if true) I wonder what has caused such a dramatic shift away from supporting this.

Hopefully it's not a failure to separate LGB from T+ when thinking about rights. But perhaps it is?

The 66% for 'legally marry' needs to be added to the 10% for 'some kind of legal recognition, but not marriage' to give a total of 76%
Same question was asked in 2021.

AimsAndObjectives · 16/08/2026 13:42

in 2021, it was 68% for 'legally marry' plus 14% for 'some kind of legal recognition, but not marriage' to give a total of 82%

BoreOfWhabylon · 16/08/2026 13:43

BBC Radio 4 now
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00300kt

"Pride before the Fall
Across the country love for Pride events is waning. Councils are pulling funding saying that cash is better spent on potholes and emptying the bins and big companies, once eager to be associated with the Pride are withdrawing their support - and money.
Last year the company that ran Manchester Pride went out of business owing millions of pounds, the bars of the city's world famous gay village on Canal Street are funding a a new grass roots celebration. Across the country Prides are smaller, less corporate and in some cases just cancelled altogether
Darren Milby asks why it is that our allyship with LBTBQ+ rights seems to be weaker and investigates what the trans debate has got to do with it?"

So far all uncritically positive with no examination of the pink and blue elephant in the room

BBC Radio 4 - Currently, Pride Before the Fall

Have we fallen out of love with Pride?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00300kt

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 13:44

Ah so the reporting is misleading then, not such a large drop. But still a drop. I guess time will tell if it’s an anomaly or a trend.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 13:45

BoreOfWhabylon · 16/08/2026 13:43

BBC Radio 4 now
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00300kt

"Pride before the Fall
Across the country love for Pride events is waning. Councils are pulling funding saying that cash is better spent on potholes and emptying the bins and big companies, once eager to be associated with the Pride are withdrawing their support - and money.
Last year the company that ran Manchester Pride went out of business owing millions of pounds, the bars of the city's world famous gay village on Canal Street are funding a a new grass roots celebration. Across the country Prides are smaller, less corporate and in some cases just cancelled altogether
Darren Milby asks why it is that our allyship with LBTBQ+ rights seems to be weaker and investigates what the trans debate has got to do with it?"

So far all uncritically positive with no examination of the pink and blue elephant in the room

I’ll be interested in their suggestion of “what the trans debate has to do with it”. Clearly something is an issue.

BoreOfWhabylon · 16/08/2026 13:49

God, is nauseating so far. No examination of any of the issues.

BoreOfWhabylon · 16/08/2026 13:52

Ah, talk of culture wars etc but no interviews with any of the critics.
Hopelessly one-sided.

BoreOfWhabylon · 16/08/2026 13:57

Ah, at last someone saying that it's the force-teaming with TQ+. Interviewer pushing back hard. No mention of public displays of fetish etc

BoreOfWhabylon · 16/08/2026 13:59

Well, that was a waste of time and money.

AimsAndObjectives · 16/08/2026 14:30

GB seems to be shifting slightly against same-sex couples having the right to adopt, and against them being likely to raise children as successfully at hetero-couples. I think it would be helpful to see this question broken down into male and female ss couples.

Two questions that appear in 2021, 2024 and 2025 are asking for agree or disagree on the following:

Single sex-couples should have the same right to adopt as heterosexual couples do
% agreeing in 2021/2024/2025
GB 72% 72% 66%
Global average 61% 62% 59%

% disagreeing in 2021/2024/2025
GB 19% 18% 25%
Global average 31% 29% 32%

Single-sex couples are just as likely as other parents to successfully raise children
% agreeing in 2021/2024/2025
GB 76% 74% 67%
Global average 62% 63% 61%

% disagreeing in 2021/2024/2025
GB 15% 15% 22%
Global average 30% 27% 30%

'The precision of Ipsos online polls is calculated using a credibility interval with a poll where N=1,000 being accurate to +/- 3.5 percentage points'

So I have highlighted where GB opinion seems to be shifting down for agree and up for disagree, whereas global averages are not changing significantly.
Interestingly, those questions were not asked in 2026.

SwirlyGates · 16/08/2026 14:36

I wonder if the percentage agreeing with same-sex adoption and/or surrogacy has now been affected significantly by the cases of Preston Davey and the Drewitt-Barlows.

RedToothBrush · 16/08/2026 14:39

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 15/08/2026 19:33

It’s a relief to read that the actually quite tolerant British nature remains LGB accepting (as it should) and hope that there is greater recognition of LGB✂T.

The deliberate conflation has got to go. It was only a coattails initiative anyway, pretending that trans-identified people need extra rights by somehow vonnect them to discrimination that gays and lesbians had suffered in the past. Stonewall and their adherents seem to be shifting to the "Trans+" now anyway. I expect that they will completely drop the LGB as soon as they feel they don't need to use them anymore.

The thing is, it's not as if transpeople don't have needs and need protections.

It's just that they can't and shouldn't be piggy backing onto the needs of others precisely because it doesn't ultimately serve themselves.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 14:41

SwirlyGates · 16/08/2026 14:36

I wonder if the percentage agreeing with same-sex adoption and/or surrogacy has now been affected significantly by the cases of Preston Davey and the Drewitt-Barlows.

Was just thinking the same thing.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 14:41

I bet Preston Davey, a hugely high profile case, is why they didn’t ask the questions this year.

BonfireLady · 16/08/2026 14:43

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 13:44

Ah so the reporting is misleading then, not such a large drop. But still a drop. I guess time will tell if it’s an anomaly or a trend.

Yes, very misleading reporting. Appalling reporting in fact. Misinformation at best, with it being impossible to rule out disinformation.

It's notable that support has slipped for gay/lesbian marriage by 2% and for other recognition by 4% but it's totally disingenuous of the journalist to portay it as such a huge drop. Whether it's statistically significant or just observably notable remains to be seen in the following years.

Despite it being a small drop since 2021, I'm glad that the UK has three quarters of the country supporting same-sex marriages, civil partnerships or similar.

Thank you @AimsAndObjectives for looking at the original figures and questions.

I assume the trend over time will be visible in the same question in the years between 2021 and 2026. Pink News seems to have a far more optimistic take on the trend, from a YouGov poll this year: https://www.thepinknews.com/2026/07/01/uk-yougov-same-sex-marriage-poll-results/

76% of UK adults support same-sex marriage, poll shows

YouGov have published new data which tracks support in the UK for same-sex marriage among the adults surveyed.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2026/07/01/uk-yougov-same-sex-marriage-poll-results/

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 14:52

The Independent are pretty biased on this sort of stuff. But I guess it’s possible that the journalist didn’t look into the figures properly and got the 82% compounded figure from somewhere else rather than look at the actual 2021 survey results. Incompetence rather than deliberate misinformation in other words.

lanadelgrey · 16/08/2026 14:52

Listening to the BBC Pride discussion what struck me is the bit where a parade goes through a business park on a weekday. It’s the having to be allies and be seen to be allies that might explain the fall in support. If I’m at work doing whatever I need to do, I don’t want to be part of some performative celebration. I would be v pissed off if I was expected to flag wave for anything at work and when we have the building wide announcement for two minutes silence on Armistice Day I make sure I am not at my desk

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 14:54

I guess for a while that sort of coerced compliance/endorsement worked for them, but I think people have had entirely enough of it.

BonfireLady · 16/08/2026 15:07

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 14:52

The Independent are pretty biased on this sort of stuff. But I guess it’s possible that the journalist didn’t look into the figures properly and got the 82% compounded figure from somewhere else rather than look at the actual 2021 survey results. Incompetence rather than deliberate misinformation in other words.

Edited

Yes, quoting it from elsewhere without looking at the detail behind the 82% would be a very reasonable explanation as to what happened. But even if it's due to incompetence (not checking facts) it would still be misinformation.

The only mitigating factor for journalism misrepresenting facts like this is that the journalist believes it to be true. Morally better than disinformation by a long way.

I'm not a journalist but if I saw a massive drop like that, I'd want to verify I had got the facts right.

AimsAndObjectives · 16/08/2026 15:12

@BonfireLady It's notable that support has slipped for gay/lesbian marriage by 2% and for other recognition by 4%

That's compared to 2021. If you compare to 2025, support has actually gone up by 2% points overall (marriage up 4pp, other recognition down 2pp). So it seems somewhat stable.
I think adoption and parenting is showing a more significant trend in GB.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 18:20

BonfireLady · 16/08/2026 15:07

Yes, quoting it from elsewhere without looking at the detail behind the 82% would be a very reasonable explanation as to what happened. But even if it's due to incompetence (not checking facts) it would still be misinformation.

The only mitigating factor for journalism misrepresenting facts like this is that the journalist believes it to be true. Morally better than disinformation by a long way.

I'm not a journalist but if I saw a massive drop like that, I'd want to verify I had got the facts right.

I agree, was just playing devils advocate really, and the Independent and its journalists have close to zero credibility for me.

TempestTost · 16/08/2026 19:04

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 13:38

Interesting suggestions. Why immigration - marriage fraud?

I was thinking different views on sexuality.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 20:10

Oh you mean the people responding are increasingly more likely to be from other cultures? Sorry I misunderstood. But that would affect the general positive views of LGB rights in the survey I imagine. And the reporting is at fault here, see @AimsAndObjectives posts and mine and @BonfireLady discussion of their inaccurate interpretation/their deliberate misinformation, whichever it was.

KnottyAuty · 16/08/2026 20:43

GCScot · 15/08/2026 11:23

Thanks for crunching the numbers @RedToothBrush

They illustrate very clearly that Terf Island objects not to trans people per se, but to men being in women's spaces. As we've said all along!

If organisations such as Amnesty had any intellectual openness they would notice the huge gulf between the views of the UK and Turkey and realise that gender criticism and gender conservatism are completely different things

Thanks for this useful differentiation:

gender criticism and gender conservatism are completely different things