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The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which Gosie returns to the trail

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Magpiecomplex · 27/07/2026 20:46

Next thread!

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PastaAllaNorma · 28/07/2026 08:44

Eggs Florentine and some fresh orange juice please, gerbils. I rather overindulged last night at our anniversary dinner and I need something sustaining to balance it all out.

ShinyBlueTractor · 28/07/2026 08:59

Morning all! Loving the new place, very swish!

I was sorry to hear of Bill Oddie's passing, his enthusiasm about birds was lovely and quite contagious

EmpressaurusKitty · 28/07/2026 09:09

I’m going to get on with setting up the crafts room, I want to settle down & work onto new blanket.

Could I have coffee & hot scones in here please, gerbils?

In the Heyer I’ve just finished, the heroine has ‘a dish of hot scones’ for breakfast every day & it sounds so tempting.

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EdithStourton · 28/07/2026 09:18

More than once, I've had leftover scones, reheated in the microwave, for my breakfast. Can recommend.

I already feel like a stiff gin. Scot gov spaffing 100s of 1000s on enabling TIMs to breastfeed. FML.

A cup of Darjeeling, please, gerbils, with a slice of chocolate cake... no, not that one, the marbled one with orange... splendid, thank you.

And now to my list of actions from last night's committee meeting.

MarieDeGournay · 28/07/2026 09:29

Two pages into the new Bluey already, and I'm waaayyy behind.

Overdid-by-my-standards things in the garden, had to do a lot-by-my-standards of admin/house repair stuff, and ended up [like Kitty yesterday] going for a little lie-down after lunch, and waking up late yesterday evening😕

Weirdest dream about Man U under Ole Gunnar Solskjaer [sp?] getting beaten by ..I think it was Leyton Orient - in a pre-season friendly, and being criticised by pundits for parading 'the cup' [not sure which...] before the match, which interfered with the players' preparation and concentration and showed that he was probably not the right choice as manager of Man U, and the season looked bleak for them...

This dream was very very weird because I have no strong feelings about English soccer, Man U, Ole G.S., match preparation, choice of manager, or Leyton Orient - except I know that their nickname is The Os and I drove by their stadium in E10 a couple of times.

Why my unconscious made such a song and dance about those sparse facts, I have no idea!

Anyway, here I am, good morning to everybody, hope you are all doing as well as poss but anything could have happened at the tail-end of the last thread, which I haven't read yet.😬

At least I know what kind of a night Hedgey, Boily and Myrtle had [love the picture!] - the word 'fractious' suggests itself😄so I hope everybody else had fewer distractions from a good night's sleep.

Here's the Smile Gerbil, who helps me out when I'm not sure what's going on with everybody by dispensing general bonhomie to all💙

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PastaAllaNorma · 28/07/2026 11:03

I'm off to my favourite YWT reserve because they have a wheelchair entrance and paved paths to the bird hides. They also have otters and stoats, so who knows, I might be in luck.

Being able to get right out there is just so exciting!

If it weren't for wildlife I'd be joining Edith in the gin quaffing. Care Bears being trans, FFS.

EdithStourton · 28/07/2026 11:31

Nature Notes - Hare Day

I wish all those of you who have never seen a hare could have come on yesterday afternoon's dog walk with B&B. It was hare heaven.

We went to my favourite permission*, which includes three meadows beside a stream, a triangular one leading to a square one leading to a long rectangular one - though all shapes are approximate. B&B were wildly excited as soon as we parked up, and were soon less excited when the first 15 minutes involved me chatting to the 'retired' farmer (who was tidying up some dead timber on the wheat stubble). We had a good moan about the state of farming (low yields this year, low wheat prices, increasing vertical integration putting more power into the hands of big companies, clueless government) as B&B got increasingly peed off about the delay. Batshit went so far as to sit down and stare in my general direction.

Finally, we set off down the hill. Brains flushed a pheasant, and was very pleased with herself.

At the end of the hedge, we left the stubble and went onto the square meadow. In the next 25 minutes we saw hare after hare. One running up a track the other side of the stream, one in the rectangular field that ran and then hunkered down, a pair of leverets running hell for leather (and disturbing a covey of partridges in the process), the hunkered one getting up again, another adult flushed by Brains, and a really big one racing off through a hedge.

Having done a circuit of the long field, we went back across the square one. A hare ran off along a hedgeline and reappeared on the stubble 100 yards away. It ran a little further and then stopped to look back at Brains staring at it. A beautiful little rust coloured leveret ran quite casually into the triangular field and lodged herself in the deepest grass she could find. She got up again and Batshit almost... and I called her name and she stopped.

Another one got up, more bothered by a low-flying buzzard than by us, and a final one - massive back legs - loped off in the distance.

I've never seen so many in such a short space of time. Part of me hates to disturb them - which is why I stayed off those fields for a while, to let the leverets grow up a bit - but I also know that almost no one goes down there, so for 99.9% of the time, the hares' lives continue undisturbed. B&B don't chase, either. If they did, I'd avoid the place like the plague.

The tally was one pheasant, half a dozen partridges, a little flock of goldfinches, the buzzard, and ten hares, three of them seen twice. Before I left, I showed the farmer a video I'd taken, of Batshit NOT chasing the hunkered hare the second time it got up.

One day I should go down there at dusk, and tuck myself and a dog into a quiet spot downwind of everything, and just watch.

*A 'permission' is a piece of land to which the landowner has granted you access for a specified activity. In my case, running and training my dogs.

EdithStourton · 28/07/2026 11:34

Pasta, I'm staying off the gin. Despite vowing not to drink during the week, I had one after last night's committee meeting...

I hope you see some cool animals. Well, they're all cool, but otters and stoats are quite elusive. I've seen a couple of stoats over the years, but only one otter. Stoats, like weasels, are incredibly fast.

ErrolTheDragon · 28/07/2026 11:44

Just about in time to wish everyone good morning. I’m about to prep some salad for an early lunch before we head off to DH’s eye clinic. I’ve packed a book…

Magpiecomplex · 28/07/2026 11:46

EdithStourton · 28/07/2026 11:34

Pasta, I'm staying off the gin. Despite vowing not to drink during the week, I had one after last night's committee meeting...

I hope you see some cool animals. Well, they're all cool, but otters and stoats are quite elusive. I've seen a couple of stoats over the years, but only one otter. Stoats, like weasels, are incredibly fast.

Warning. Joke incoming.

What's the difference between a weasel and a stoat?

A weasel is weaselly recognised, while a stoat is stoatally different.

I thank you, ladies and gerbils, I'll be here all thread!

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EdithStourton · 28/07/2026 12:16

<groans>
That is such an old joke.

How about the one below?

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MyrtleLion · 28/07/2026 12:27

Boiledbeetle · 27/07/2026 22:50

Fine, I'll take them off.

Can you ring room service I forgot to bring some Tunnocks up with me and I can't reach the phone from here.

🤣😁😂

Chickadeeinme · 28/07/2026 12:33

Good morning all! Yes I know it’s good afternoon for you lot but I’ve only just woken up and it’s not quite 7:30am. Nice new gaff - thanks @Magpiecomplex. I have my writers group today and have to be out by 12:30, and I need time to fit in looking at the others’ poems, have a shower, have breakfast and take a walk before that. I may have to get up soon, but not before I’ve had my cup of tea. I keep a small electric kettle by the bed and a box of teabags in the bedside drawer, and I take a mug and a small jug of milk up when I go to bed. Americans - many of whom only use the kind of kettle you put on the stove - often think this is weird but it seems perfectly sensible to me.

MyrtleLion · 28/07/2026 12:52

I slept for 7.5 hours. The headphones helped. I am unsure why we all ended up in the same suite, let alone the same bed, but it was the best night’s sleep I’ve had in ages.

Having a quiet day today.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 28/07/2026 12:54

Whew - I made it - thanks for the new thread, @Magpiecomplex!

Boiledbeetle · 28/07/2026 13:27

MyrtleLion · 28/07/2026 12:52

I slept for 7.5 hours. The headphones helped. I am unsure why we all ended up in the same suite, let alone the same bed, but it was the best night’s sleep I’ve had in ages.

Having a quiet day today.

That will be the gentle snoring, at just the right vibration to soothe mountain lions, of a sleeping beetle right next to your ear through the night.

You beat the house cats for snuggleability that's for sure.

MyrtleLion · 28/07/2026 13:44

Boiledbeetle · 28/07/2026 13:27

That will be the gentle snoring, at just the right vibration to soothe mountain lions, of a sleeping beetle right next to your ear through the night.

You beat the house cats for snuggleability that's for sure.

💙

PastaAllaNorma · 28/07/2026 16:52

EdithStourton · 28/07/2026 11:34

Pasta, I'm staying off the gin. Despite vowing not to drink during the week, I had one after last night's committee meeting...

I hope you see some cool animals. Well, they're all cool, but otters and stoats are quite elusive. I've seen a couple of stoats over the years, but only one otter. Stoats, like weasels, are incredibly fast.

No stoats or otters, but 31 species of birds, and 5 of dragonflies. It was great!

MyrtleLion · 28/07/2026 17:50

Chapter Two - Unremarkable Donations

In which a list gives Gosie pause…

The Surveyor of the Fabric was the fancy job title for the architect responsible for Durham Cathedral‘s building itself. She was called Judith and she had the organised calm of someone who had spent thirty years ensuring that nothing fell off anything important.

“Talmere,” she said. “Yes. The Chapter House windows restoration, 2021. Very straightforward. Conservation-grade leading, sympathetic glazing, full heritage sign-off.” She said this in the tone of someone for whom full heritage sign-off represented a personal achievement. “Do you know how many people think a Grade One listing means you can do what you like, so long as you’re careful? It doesn’t. It means you can do almost nothing, and you’d better enjoy doing almost nothing very well.”

“On behalf of a private foundation,” said Gosie.

“That’s correct.” Judith said this without any particular emphasis, in the way that people say things they have read many times without reading them. “The paperwork was exemplary. We don’t always get exemplary.”

Gosie nodded. “Have they funded anything else here?”

Judith was already at her filing cabinet. This was, Gosie felt, a good sign. People who moved immediately to their filing cabinet had usually been waiting for someone to ask the right question.

“Four projects.” She set a folder on the desk. “The Chapter House windows. Conservation of the medieval textile fragments in the Treasury. Digitisation of the Cosin manuscript collection. And the Cloister archaeology, 2019.” She paused. “The textiles were the ones I really minded about. I stood over that conservator for a fortnight. Ridiculous, really, they knew what they were doing far better than I did.” She caught herself. “And a very generous donation to the education programme, but I don’t suppose that’s relevant.”

Gosie looked at the list. “May I have a copy of this?”

Judith was already at the photocopier.

Gosie started with the Treasury.

This seemed sensible. Textiles were fragile, expensive, and extremely good at keeping secrets. Unlike glass, they could be folded, packed away, forgotten about for centuries and then rediscovered by someone with enough patience to look in the right cupboard.

The medieval fragments had been conserved in 2020, according to the records Judith had given her. Talmere’s name appeared in the acknowledgements. The foundation did not.

Gosie spent two hours examining the fragments, the conservation notes, and the photographs taken before and after the work.

Nothing. No altered stitching. No unfamiliar symbol. No replacement sections. No indication that anyone had removed anything except dust.

She wrote: Textiles. No. Then, after a moment, because it seemed unfairly abrupt: Not this one.

The Cosin manuscript collection was next.

This took longer because manuscripts, Gosie discovered, had a different relationship with time than almost anything else. A window could be looked at. A textile could be touched. A manuscript could sit quietly for five hundred years while everyone politely failed to notice the one line that mattered.

The digitisation project had been thorough. The scans were extraordinary. The catalogue was excellent. The people involved were proud of it. Gosie could see why.
Nothing. No missing pages. No suspicious marks. No strange gaps in the records. Manuscripts. No. She underlined it once.

The cloister archaeology was the most promising. Not because it made sense, but because archaeology had the useful quality of occasionally producing things nobody knew existed. The excavation report was detailed. The finds were catalogued. The funding acknowledgements were clear. Again, Talmere. Again, no symbol. Again, no foundation.

Gosie sat on a bench in the cloister with her notebook open and looked at the three lines she had written.
Textiles.
Manuscripts.
Archaeology.

All important. All connected somehow. All wrong. She did not like being wrong. Not because she found it embarrassing. Wrong answers were useful. Wrong answers narrowed the field. But this one was irritating because it had been such a reasonable answer. The symbol had appeared on the window. The window had been funded through a private foundation connected to the Margrave.

The textile conservation was meticulous. The manuscript digitisation was exactly what it claimed to be. The cloister archaeology had been carefully recorded, photographed, catalogued and signed off. But the symbol didn’t appear anywhere on them.

Gosie looked again at the list Judith had given her. Perhaps she had misunderstood. She returned to the Surveyor of the Fabric’s office.

Judith looked up from her desk. “Back already?”

“I have a question,” said Gosie and placed the photocopy on the desk. “The four projects on this list.”

“Yes?”

“The foundation that funded the Chapter House windows. Did it fund the others as well?”

“No. Talmere funded the windows’ restoration on behalf of a private foundation,” Judith said. “The other projects were funded via its own charitable foundation.”

It was not the answer Gosie had expected. “The foundation - what was it called?”

Judith looked back at the paperwork. “It doesn’t say. It just says ‘on behalf of a private foundation’, but I do know that Talmere have supported other conservation work for the same foundation,” Judith said. “Ripon, I think. Stained glass restoration. I only remember because a friend of mine trained there.”

Gosie looked at Judith, then looked down at her notebook.

Number thirty-seven. She’d already been there.

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/2-unremarkable-donations

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Boiledbeetle · 28/07/2026 18:16

Ooh new Gosie tales.

I shall go make a brew before I read it.

There is hope for the women of tomorrow...

The little girls across the road have just knocked on my door with a flower, a suffragette coloured friendship band and a note about women's rights!

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AngleofRepose · 28/07/2026 18:18

Boiledbeetle · 28/07/2026 18:16

Ooh new Gosie tales.

I shall go make a brew before I read it.

There is hope for the women of tomorrow...

The little girls across the road have just knocked on my door with a flower, a suffragette coloured friendship band and a note about women's rights!

I live for Gosie stories!

(and I want one of those bracelets) 💚💜

EmpressaurusKitty · 28/07/2026 18:19

That’s wonderful, Boily!

AngleofRepose · 28/07/2026 18:26

Some great jokes on here today 😁
I've had an entirely boring day of going to the bank, then library, then groceries, then home. That's it. I may have some raspberries with my nectarines and yogurt. So exciting!

(I did do a lot of hedge trimming yesterday. And sweeping the driveway. And more boring weeding. So I guess I'm allowed a day when I do nothing much)

Loving all the wildlife stories, too.

MyrtleLion · 28/07/2026 18:48

Boiledbeetle · 28/07/2026 18:16

Ooh new Gosie tales.

I shall go make a brew before I read it.

There is hope for the women of tomorrow...

The little girls across the road have just knocked on my door with a flower, a suffragette coloured friendship band and a note about women's rights!

That’s wonderful!

Hedgehogforshort · 28/07/2026 19:49

I missed a day!!!!

i blame it on boilies herbal fags, i was completely unaware of any snoring and found the whole sleeping arrangement very cozy.