'Heather' Herbert Charged Over Ann Widdecombe Comments

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About time imo

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2ln31g8gvo

Yes it's "she" or "her" for every direct reference 🙄

she didnt say that

As Prisons Minister in 1996, she defended a Home Office policy that required pregnant inmates to be handcuffed to a prison officer while in transit or in public areas of a hospital to prevent escapes. However, she explicitly maintained that all restraints were to be removed once a doctor or midwife confirmed that labour had started.

It's interesting that Reform are pleased about this, and about the guy arrested for sending death threat emails to Farage.

Which is odd, because they're the "just hurty words" party when it comes to anyone else being on the receiving end and happy to platform Lucy Connolly.

I think people should be arrested for making death threats. Don't you?

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/aberdeen-uni-worker-who-shared-37435488

The police may have had other reasons.

I can’t see any picture of him on the BBC story.

Trouble with some of these laws is that feminists end up on the wrong side of them far more than vile men like “Heather”. It feels good to see the likes of him getting a taste of the medicine but these laws are not a great thing. Kate Scottow can attest to that.

I did mention that earlier in the thread. They may also have checked his hard drive....

The only pictures in the BBC article are of Ann

Great news!!!! I don’t care what peoples political or religious leanings are…….to wish a painful death on anyone is vile, disgusting and I hope he gets a custodial sentence!

I agree with you. His comments were repugnant. And he disgusts me. But. I'm not sure his comments qualifiy as incitement to hate.

Scotland’s Hate Crime and Public Order Act makes it a criminal offense to commit threatening or abusive behavior intended to stir up hatred against protected groups. These protections cover age, disability, religion, sexual orientation, transgender identity, variations in sex characteristics, and race.

I think they always have been amongst us but before social media they had very limited opportunities to spread their repugnant views.

• Christmas dinner table - but the rest of the family would be able to argue back or withdraw an invitation
• Corner of the pub, golf club or other club - but other people there could easily move away, risk of being banned
• Local newspaper letters page - they are usually desperate for content, but not desperate enough to publish hateful things wishing specific celebrities a painful death
• Park bench - but other park goers can easily avoid the ranty nutter
• Workplace - even decades ago you wouldn't get away with the sort of stuff HH has been saying on social media in most workplaces - you could certainly expect a bit of pushback from colleagues, if not disciplinary action

Compare social media, blogs, many forums - you can say virtually anything and find like-minded nutters to agree and to whip each other into a ferment. Censorship is ineffective and on X virtually non-existent since Musk took over.

Yes.

But that's not my point. My point was very clear. It's double standards.

Example: a Reform councillor reposted on social media that a female Labour MP (I think Natalie Fleet) should be shot. Farage refused to condemn him even when challenged on it in Parliament.

This video is so odd in the way he's hiding his face in shadow.

it is vile and disgusting but not at all a criminal offence.

Telegraph has the story and leads with transwoman and a picture of him.

Bash Back is also under investigation, since that started a few of the heavy weights (to the TRAs at least) have vanished from bluesky. Wouldn't surprise me if the charges are relating to the posts made in relation to Bash Back which absolutely incites violence. With Herbert's web development experience, he may be more active behind them than the others in the polycule. The hard drives all need checked.

Of course I am only speculating, but the original posts about AW were deemed not a crime and further investigations are what appear to have lead to charges.

@OonaStubbs Most likely when Herbert was employed by Aberdeen Uni, he was still dressing like a man and hadn't mutilated himself. They all became AGPs with mutilated parts as middle aged men. He appears to be the only one with a job.

Be grateful 😂

Mr Poppy is by far the creepiest of the 3 and that's some bar.

I pity the police officers tasked with looking through Scott's internet connected devices.

Given what him, Euan and the other bloke actually post on line I dread to think what unsavoury things lurk on their hard drives that even they don't think suitable for sharing with total strangers on line.

There has to be more they've found as I don't think he should be charged over what he said about AW, repugnant as it may have been.

I suspect he was arrested for this:
The posts were published before detectives announced they were treating Ms Widdecombe's death as murder.

And then, after due diligence ie checking his phone/laptop, they found enough evidence of something else that passed the criminal activity level rather than his tweet.

FAFO 😂

I've reported the Bash Back account more than once, hoping it would be removed, but it hasn't been.

Herbert and the rest of the Addams family have links to the group, but I'm not sure how closely they're affiliated.

He had previously posted a tweet containing an AI image of Sophie Molly with weapons, guns I think, with a threatening message and the police reopened the investigation when alerted to it. I'm not sure how that investigation has progressed but I believe it was the reopened investigation that led to the arrest, not simply the death-related tweet.

What a knob (pardon the pun) to do that to yourself. No wonder he's soft in the head, it would make anyone crazy.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/aberdeen-uni-worker-who-shared-37435488.amp

Well, it was part of the bbc headlines on PM on radio 4 earlier