Will fewer men discover they have female gendered souls?

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The landscape has changed a lot in the last year or two in the UK. 10 years ago, if a man declared himself a women, many work policies allowed him to use women's changing rooms and toilets on the first day "presenting in his new gender". And he would be lauded as stunning and brave. Thankfully, these policies are getting binned now.

And the landscape is changing elsewhere as well. The IOC coming down on the side of protecting the female category has been really pivotal. If the Democrats in the US continue to push for men to be able to compete in women's sports, they will lose votes.

If tw have to use third spaces, won't be able to compete in women's sports or take women's honours and titles, will discovering their inner lady gendered soul become less appealing? Will.we see fewer sob stories in the metro about someone who was "femme-presenting" that day suffering the indignity of being denied entry to a female changing room?

There seem to be a lot of posts from men on there who have decided they are ladies quite recently. I think some are attracted to the perceived status of “oppressed minority”.

This.

No, because being transgender is an innate aspect of human identity, not a lifestyle trend driven by social perks or convenience. Decades of clinical research show that transitioning is a medically necessary treatment for gender dysphoria, and UK detransition rates remain incredibly low at just 1% to 7%—with the vast majority of those individuals stopping due to family rejection, financial barriers, or social hostility, rather than a change in identity. Denying trans women access to basic public spaces and sports won't stop people from being trans; it will only make life significantly more hostile, dangerous, and isolated for a tiny, marginalized group of people. Just a question, do you support gay rights?

Hope this helps...

No one is denying a group of men access to spaces and sports, they are denying them access to female only spaces and sports categories- hope that helps.

To suggest this is about "protecting" women's toilets ignores the actual crime data, which shows that inclusive policies do not threaten public safety. Multiple independent studies, including a landmark law-enforcement review by the Police Foundation, analysed sexual assault and safety violations in women's public facilities before and after inclusive policies were introduced; they found that such crimes remain exceedingly rare and that inclusive policies had zero impact on crime rates. In contrast, the data shows that transgender people are the ones who face overwhelming rates of violence; indeed, official UK figures from the Office for National Statistics show that trans individuals are actually twice as likely to be victims of violent crime as cisgender people. The threat in these spaces is not posed by trans women—it is faced by them. Sorry this doesn't fit your rhetoric...

Denying trans women access to basic public spaces and sports won't stop people from being trans; it will only make life significantly more hostile, dangerous, and isolated for a tiny, marginalized group of people. Just a question, do you support gay rights?

TW are not denied access to basic public spaces and sports. They simply have to access the spaces and sports of their birth sex.

This will in no way make life significantly more hostile, dangerous, and isolated for a tiny group of people. FYI men are not marginalized.

Yes, of course I support gay rights. Gay rights don't take anything away from me or other women.

Hope that's clearer for you.

There are those who relish the ‘victimhood’ aspect, any sign of someone saying no, or making a big show of anccomidating them, and they assume it’s because they are trans. This is then interpreted as bigotry and bullying, when actually it’s just that you can’t always get your own way, and that’s ok. Echoes of Ali G “is it cos I is black?”

Oh dear....

To claim that gay rights "don't take anything away" from women whereas trans rights do completely ignores history. In the 1970s and 80s, the exact same panic was weaponized against lesbians and gay men, with opponents loudly arguing that allowing them into public bathrooms, changing rooms, or teaching positions threatened the safety, privacy, and rights of women and children. The argument that a marginalized group's push for basic societal inclusion is "encroaching" on others is the oldest anti-equality tactic in the book. This is just the new scapegoat.

Furthermore, this argument relies on conflating sex and gender, when modern science and major global medical bodies explicitly recognize that physical biology and gender identity are entirely distinct. Forcing a trans woman into a men’s facility, or a bearded trans man into a women's facility based strictly on "birth sex," doesn't protect anyone; it creates confusion and directly exposes a highly vulnerable minority to an extreme risk of harassment and physical violence. Supporting gay rights while actively using the same exclusionary logic that the gay rights movement had to fight against for decades is a complete contradiction
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By all means, show us the data. And I do mean the data, not someone's interpretation of it.

@OneHardyBiscuit just stop. You are embarrassing yourself. Seriously.

Is being trans an innate part of this man's identity? If so, why did he only discover it after getting convicted? 🤔

www.reuters.com/world/german-far-right-activist-transferred-mens-prison-transgender-case-2026-07-16/

If you are transgender you are more likely to be a murderer than to be murdered.

BTW Your AI is hallucinating. There is no "landmark law-enforcement review by the Police Foundation, analysed sexual assault and safety violations in women's public facilities before and after inclusive policies were introduced;" It doesn't exist.

Happy to. Here are the actual sources and data, completely free of spin:
First, on the "bathroom panic" claim: A major study published by the UCLA School of Public Policy ("Gender Identity Nondiscrimination Laws in Public Accommodations") analysed years of actual police crime reports before and after trans-inclusive laws were passed. The researchers found absolutely zero statistical link between inclusive policies and crimes in women's spaces. The laws simply do not lead to an increase in safety violations.
Second, on who is actually at risk: The UK Office for National Statistics (ONS) Crime Survey for England and Wales consistently shows that trans people are twice as likely to be victims of crime as cis people (historically 28% of trans individuals experiencing crime in a reporting year compared to 14% of cis individuals).
Furthermore, peer-reviewed research from the Williams Institute shows trans individuals are actually four times more likely to be victims of violent crime, including sexual assault.
The actual data tells a very clear story: inclusive spaces don't put cis women at risk, but forcing trans people into spaces that don't match how they live and present puts a highly vulnerable group in real, documented danger. All of these reports are easily searchable online.

So you're saying that the number of men who assult women in female only spaces didn't change when men with dresses were allowed in? So men who violate women's boundries were still violating women's boundries, only this time in a dress?

Do you mean this? Were you unable to post the actual link yourself?

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/ma-public-accommodations/

I'm sure we already discussed this, will have to check.

Humans don't have 'identity's' they have characters and personality's, it takes all sorts but no one imagined reality can replace the real reality.
I think it's all coming to ahead, but it's far from over, because as pp have said, the more this batshittery became visible the more people started saying WTF.

It can't last because it's entirely bogus, it doesn't have the centre it needs to be a real change to our society, because despite what the TRA's say 'trans' isn't the same as same sex attracted.
People are not going to put up with having to call others stupid pronouns forever, they're going to get tired of it. She/he her/him are the easy option and people will revert back to the easy options.
It's going to die a death because it's a fad, and all fads have an expiration date.

Telling someone to "just stop" and calling them embarrassed isn't actually an argument. If you disagree with the points I’ve made, you’re welcome to explain why. Otherwise, resorting to personal dismissals just makes it look like you've run out of things to say and feel called out

That case actually proves the exact opposite of what you think it does—it shows the system is perfectly capable of spotting a bad-faith actor.
Sven Liebich is a notorious far-right extremist. His "transition" was widely called out by both German politicians and LGBT groups as a cynical stunt to mock the law and dodge a men's prison.
But the safeguards did exactly what they were supposed to do. German law doesn't just hand someone an automatic pass into a women's prison because they changed their legal marker. The prison authorities did a risk assessment, saw right through his game, and immediately moved him to a men's facility. The regional Justice Ministry even pointed out that cheap tricks like this don't work under the rule of law.
Using a far-right troll who tried—and failed—to game the system as "proof" of what it means to be trans is a massive stretch. If anything, this proves authorities can easily protect women's spaces from bad-faith actors without having to punish genuine trans people in the process.

First off, describing trans women as "men in dresses" is pretty disgusting and dehumanising. Let's keep it respectful if you actually want to have a serious conversation.
But to answer your point: no, that's not what the data says at all. You’re completely missing how crime actually works.
The whole point of the safety data is that passing inclusive laws did not lead to any spike in crimes. If predatory men were waiting for these laws to "exploit" them and sneak into women's spaces, we would have seen a rise in sexual assault reports after the policies changed. We didn't.
Why? Because a sign on a door has never stopped a predator. Sexual assault is already highly illegal. A rapist doesn't wait for a non-discrimination ordinance to be passed before violating women's boundaries. Inclusive policies simply protect ordinary trans people who just need to use the toilet, while police can—and still do—arrest actual criminals of any gender.

That is not the data. That is your interpretation of the data. I too can claim anything I want. Without links to hard data to back it up, it's useless.

Calling this a "modern fad" completely ignores both history and science.
First, the historical reality: trans people didn't suddenly appear in the last ten years. Medical transition and gender-affirming care actually go back over a century. The Institut für Sexualwissenschaft (Institute for Sexual Science) was established in Berlin back in 1919, providing gender-affirming surgeries and support until the Nazis destroyed it and burned its research in 1933. Culturally, gender diversity has existed for thousands of years—from the Hijra in India to Two-Spirit people in Native American cultures. It is not a modern TikTok trend; it is a permanent part of human history.
Second, the connection to gay rights is deeply historical. The modern gay liberation movement was literally kicked off at the Stonewall riots in 1969, led in large part by gender-nonconforming and trans women like Marsha P. Johnson and Sylvia Rivera. The idea that LGB and T are entirely separate, newly forced allies is revisionist history. Both groups have always fought against the exact same rigid expectations of how men and women "should" behave.
Third, saying people don't have "identities" contradicts decades of neurological and psychological science. Major global medical bodies—including the British Psychological Society and the American Medical Association—firmly recognize that gender identity is a deeply rooted, innate psychological structure. It’s not an "imagined reality" or a fashion statement; it's a fundamental aspect of how the human brain processes self-concept.
People have been claiming equality movements are "just a passing phase that people will get tired of" for generations. They said it about desegregation, they said it about women's liberation, and they said it about gay rights in the 80s. History has a habit of proving those predictions wrong.

None of which agenda driven burble addresses my correction of your entirely inaccurate statement 🤷‍♀️

Ah yes, the "fake trans" defence.