Full Council Chaos. Bristol City Council refusing to implement single sex services

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Last night at the full council meeting women asking questions about BCC's refusal to implement the law was met with heckling from the gallery and a nonsensical word salad from council officials.

Somehow the number of questions, and goodness knows what other personal details, was leaked from within the Council offices and fed to far left activists who put out a call for attendance online. At least 100 turned up and abused and harrassed members of the public while they were speaking. At one point they were shouting at a questioners to sit down. No action was taken by council officials to maintain order.

As they left, women were met with heckling, chanting and shouting outside the building from more far left activists. The atmosphere was intimidating and abusive.

Please note, the Council agenda that evening held an item on a city wide commitment to ending VAWG. Harrassment and abuse was happening right in front of them and they not only initiated this spectacle but supported it.

Women are not safe in Bristol.

Insistence on respect for a subjective, intangible identity is also reminiscent of Prince Andrew insisting on being addressed as "Your Royal Highness".

I do agree with this - that at its heart, its relentless focus on the whims and wants of the Individual (male) at the expense of the collective (females) is very firmly right wing territory.

However notwithstanding that, the left have picked it up and run with it. There, it seems to me, the focus is on suicidal empathy for who they perceive to be the oppressed. Their huge mistake is to characterise men as the oppressed and women as the oppressor, which is clearly abject nonsense to anybody who’s paying any attention to reality.

Exactly. It may be appropriation and gaslighting but it’s definitely considered a left wing position and it’s necessary to identify it as that.

Yep, can confirm. I'm a resident Bristolian.

Whichever way it's chopped up, the standout message from last night in Bristol City Council's chamber is that women can no longer engage in democratic processes without the threat of being abused and intimidated.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt then. 🙄

One of the mumsnetters (I think) has posted about this meeting on x. Picture of a seamonster are you here? (Your username reminds me of one of my old user names!) .

As Jo Bartosch has responded and is asking for women at the meeting to message her on x.

Children of Transitioners, also on x, have reposted their experience and report of trying to get access to female only abuse support services (unsuccessfully) in Bristol too...the link is here:

childrenoftransitioners.org/the-trans-lobby-has-destroyed-provision-for-female-abuse-victims-in-bristol-and-elsewhere-and-will-do-the-same-for-the-victims-bill/

Women are safe in Bristol, in fact it’s one of the safest places I’ve lived. Be angry about many things but don’t make untrue statements.

sorry don't know who haha is responding to. But thought mumsnetters might find this interesting: from 2024 though www.bristol.ac.uk/news/2024/december/policing-of-violence-against-women-and-girls.html
'Less than a quarter (24%) of the 55 studied police case files on domestic violence, rape, and serious sexual assault offences overall resulted in charges being brought against an offender, according to the findings which covered two police forces.'

and crime rates 2026 so far:
https://crimerate.co.uk/avon-somerset-police

A quick google of statistics suggest that this is not true:

"Violence against women and girls (VAWG) in Bristol is significantly higher than national averages, particularly concerning sexual violence and domestic abuse. Females in the city are 2.4 times more likely than males to be victims of domestic abuse. 1, 2, 3, 4]

Sexual Violence and Harassment

• Bristol Rate: 4.8 per 1,000 population.
• National Rate: 3.1 per 1,000 population across England.
• Context: Bristol has the joint-highest rate of sexual violence among English core cities. Additionally, 38% of women in Bristol report that sexual harassment is a major local issue. 1, 2] "

Police Response and Charging Times

• Avon and Somerset Police: The local force handling Bristol deals with roughly seven reported rapes a day on average.
• Wait Times: Rape cases take an average of 626 days to reach a charge, which is more than double the national average of 306 days. 1]

You can review the full breakdown of local data via the Bristol JSNA Domestic Abuse Report and the Bristol Sexual Violence and Harassment JSNA.

Edited to add cross posted with @StSpiridian

can always trust @MrsOvertonsWindow to get the right stats!

I'm not denying that parties and groups who call themselves left-wing have, for their own bizarre non-reasons, adopted transactivism. I am arguing that transactivism itself is not left-wing. Being left-wing is not just "being nice", however much some people would like it to be.

This is just the sort of attempt to shut a woman down that is an exemplar of last night's carry on. You add nothing to the safety of women other than a singular perspective and a chilling instruction.

I'll say what I felt and what I saw. And I dont need or seek your permission to do so.

Self ID was initially proposed by Theresa May's government.

Right wing politicians only really got interested when they realised that the left were scoring an own goal.

They certainly didn't want to help a bunch of feminists defend their rights.

What other laws does Bristol Council not follow because it doesn't agree with them?

Sorry who are safe? If you want to make assertions one way or another you need to pin down who you are talking about.

Women aren’t “safe” anywhere, I highly doubt Bristol is the shining exception.

100% this. Transgenderism is the ultimate individualistic consumerist capitalist movement. There is nothing progressive or left wing about it.

Exactly. I’d argue Reform still haven’t properly cottoned onto to the absolute goldmine it is for beclowning your political opponents. Kemi knows.

This cartoon never gets old

Oh my mistake, the 'far right' that everyone is banging on about is, the Gender Idiots, can't believe I didn't see it before.

Tommy Robinson and India Wanaby are on the same side of the political aisle, a bit like Queers for Pally.

First of all, Bristol Council needs to be sued. A lot. And now. That's the only thing that will stop this, because they seem determined to flout the law.
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Thank you. I quite agree. The "far left" "far right" framing has become extremely tiresome and is inaccurate.

As you say, the Communist party & Morning Star are both "far left". Both of them fundamentally oppose men in women's spaces and services and promote material reality and class analysis over fashionably batshit postmodernist identitarian theories of "gender". And many women in the UK who oppose "gender" ideology come from a left wing feminist background, even if many now feel politically homeless. It doesn't mean they're "conservative" or "right wing" or even "hate the left". I'm sick of this framing. We are not all a hive mind.

Left wing material feminists are not "far right" nor influenced by the right, or indeed conservative about sex roles, which anyone who understands the social history of women's rights and feminism in this country should know. And claiming ALL "lefties" agree with this ridiculous authoritarian stance as espoused by Bristol council is inaccurate. A great many don't. Because it's pathetic.

Meanwhile, I do not support political violence and authoritarianism whichever 'side' it comes from. Bristol council are failing in their duty to those they are supposed to represent. Bunch of idiots.

And yet many of us lefties do in fact OPPOSE genderwang. And on the basis of our political views, in fact.

So you're missing the point with this, really. Nobody is saying that Tommy Robinson et al support it. But there re plenty of "far left" people who oppose it, and thus it's inaccurate and lazy to claim it is the "far left" who are supporting it as if we all do. We don't. I don't consider those who do to know much about socialism or are particular "left wing" either, however they identify. They are largely middle class identitarians.