What a delightful “young woman” comments on Widdecombe death

[Deanefan]

Directed to this by a friend from Aberdeen
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/16536795/heather-herbert-ann-widdecombe-death-comments/

Good for you!

Where are you from?

Whoever this poster is/was, they are massively drawing the discussion away from Heather Herbert and his awful comments on finding out about Ann Widdecombe's death.

I don't think Heather should be arrested. I do think he should be fired though. He's definitely damaged Aberdeen University's reputation.

That is true which is why I'm butting out and go to bed.

It's utterly bizarre.

Oh there it is, the typical condescending,. patronising tone. I'll tick that off the bingo card and await more classic behaviour.

I think I’ve got mixed up in responses!

BBC on it now but unfortunately the online article uses the obligatory "she" to describe Herbert. Without a picture of Herbert, so a casual reader wouldn't have any clue that it's actually another misogynistic male they are talking about.

BBC News - University investigates employee's comments on Ann Widdecombe's death
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn8k39vz8vvo

Anne Widdicombe said anti-gay things.
I am gay.
Anne Widdicombe said anti-me things.

I believed that her opinions about lesbian and gay rights [the 'T' hadn't been invented for most of her political career] were wrong, and so did most people. Her opinions did not prevail.

And d'you what, DieWaarheid, despite all that,* * I never thought that she hated me, and I certainly never hated her.
I disagreed with her on a lot of things.
But for me, like for most people, disagreement does not equal hatred, and when someone we disagree with suffers a horrible death, our moral compass tells us not to gloat or wish for grotesque suffering when they die.

But that's just most people. There are always exceptions like HH with differently-calibrated moral compasses who
deny even to the departed the sad immunities of the grave.

Here’s what Mr Herbert looks like without his gear on. After it has been reviewed, of course. I found this on Twitter when his posts were made public.

I suspect they’re fluent in bollox.

wow @MarieDeGournay i can only wish that those in charge of our country could be as level headed as you!

Apparently there’s so much hate aimed at the polycule they can only go out wearing body cams now.

Aye right.

Sadly, this is more than likely. Universities have swallowed the Koolaid on trans extremism.

Well, it's easier than dealing with actual discrimination (structural and/or deliberate) against women, and people from working-class backgrounds.

Oh that's only for women as we're everybody else's support humans. Men are too busy being important to be kind.

There is a change.org petition making very reasonable requests of the University of Aberdeen to investigate. Text below. If you google you'll find the petition. I'd have added a concern for the safety of all the women students and staff. Many of the staff will be older women - I know I wouldn't feel safe having to work with this man.

This petition does not call for any specific disciplinary action. Instead, it asks the University of Aberdeen to:

• Review the circumstances surrounding the remarks
• Consider whether they meet the university’s professional and ethical expectations
• Communicate the outcome of that review transparently
• Universities play an important role in maintaining public trust, and it is reasonable for the public to expect accountability when concerns arise about staff conduct.

Free Speech is not arrestable. However it would be nice if transphobes were arrested for encouraging trans people to unalive themselves.

Trans activists have told me to “unalive myself” before - I take it that would apply to them too?

The difference between Ms Widdecombe and you and your gang @DieWaarheid , is that Ms Widdecombe wasn't scared of a debate. She didn't shut people down with overheated cries of #NoDebate or "I'm not safe"

And on X and FaceBook, there is an outpouring of gay men & women's rejection of your broadcasting of misogynist hate. They all say: "We didn't agree, but she'd have a jolly good argument. And we're still friends."

Quite.

Always one rule for men and a different one for women.

It was ever thus.

Down with male bigots!

I thought this was such a lovely image, I'd repost it.

Didn't bobble hatted Big Tone claim to spend time in S.A. a while back? He must miss us so much if he's still doing that. All this faux Afrikaans stuff jogged my memory.

Misogynist man in a frock doing whst the misogynist males in frocks do. And yes, we know exactly how much these men hate women, especially older women who dare to voice opinions.

Because men hating women is apparently not hate crime, whereas women daring to say that men are not women is of course the most heinous hate crime and women must be punished severely.. The double standard is alive and well.

Yet another reason I will never vote Labour again. They take the p*ss out of women at every turn.

You are conflating two completely separate questions in an intellectually-dishonest attempt to defend the indefensible by basically saying "the bitch deserved it".

"Do I agree with Widdecombe's policies?" is a completely unrelated question to "Is it ever appropriate to publically fantasise about the torture of a woman?"

It is never appropriate to fantasise about a woman's torture. It doesn't become OK to advocate for the mistreatment of a woman because she's done something you don't like.

There are men out there who use "the bitch deserved it" to justify rape, battery, and murder of their wives. When you claim that it's OK to fantasise openly about torturing Widdecombe, you make it morally possible for any man to claim that about any woman.

As KJK said, right-wing women are women. Women's rights and dignity are not conditional upon our conduct being acceptable to men. And that includes the women we might disagree with profoundly.