Do you take 3am posts less seriously on sex and gender threads?

[WittyLimeBiscuit]

I know the heatwave is making it hard to sleep at the moment, but I am intrigued by posters who log in at 2, 3 or 4 in the morning to leave bitchy comments, or long, complicated and sometimes cross-linked moans about something.

I guess some could be on holiday in a different time zone, but does anyone else treat any claims made in bitch o'clock 3am posts with a mountain-size grain of salt?

Presumably this is a response to a particular post that you don't like?

Some people live in different time zones and use the forum.

It also figures that there are many reasons why a forum called ‘Mumsnet’ will have female posters awake at all hours.

Depends if they start whanging on about bathrooms or restrooms when they mean public toilets and clearly have no knowledge of the equality act but still lecture us on what is and is not allowed under it

I first started reading FWR when I was awake at silly o'clock breastfeeding, so I can understand posts at odd times in the night. There's also different time zones, insomniacs etc.

Mind you, there's a thread at the moment where a brand new poster logged in at 3am ish to demand everyone use the 'medical term' trans woman rather than the more accurate trans identified man.

I'm afraid I don't take that seriously. At all.

I don't take them less seriously based on the time they post because, as pp said, people are in different time zones, have different sleep patterns etc.

I do take them less seriously when they're a fact- free angry rant regurgitating everything that's gone before, not even understanding the legislation, no robust points made or genuine evidence provided, haven't read around FWR but just jump right in with the same old shite seemingly unaware that we've heard it 1000 times before and basically just want to have a go at women who don't want men in their stuff.

This. I don’t bother engaging with the obviously US posters.

Not just one, seen a few recently that were super long and argumentative, or trying to give their interpretation to the background of a thread. And it wasn't just that I disagreed — we're never all going to agree, and thank heavens for that.
It was more the barrack-room tone.

Good point, but at least one of these threads was very UK specific.

This. Timezone is irrelevant.

People often project their own internal conflicts, secret obsessions or hidden anger onto trivial situations as a defence mechanism to divert attention from themselves so perhaps the answer you seek lies in self reflection?

Yes, this. I'll engage with anyone in good faith at first, but a "new" poster jumping right in dumping the same old frankly dumb Genderist idea of Gotchas that have been debunked (in the case of false facts) or well-argued against (in the case of bad logic and/or underlying sexist assumptions) a million times before, showing they either are too arrogant to bother searching or simply want to dump the same shit on top of the pile of shit that TRSOH has come here to dump for years already because they hope if they dump a big enough pile of shit here reasonable people won't bother wading through it - yeah, there's only so much good faith a bad faith poster deserves.

What is a "barrack-room tone"?

I'm often logged on at 3am due to BD DC who are on a nocturnal sleep cycle. I've not found that time of day of posting affects how I view posts.

I don’t typically write bitchy posts, but often post at all sorts of strange times because a) I’m not in the UK, b) I have a sleep disorder so am often awake and trying to find something to engage my mind. So I post during both day and night time (my time) which is opposite to UK time…. That being said, I tend to assess posts on their content and username (if I do/don’t recognise them) rather than specific time of posting.

3am plopping, yes. Genuine posts, I don’t care, as someone often on at weird times myself, what time posts are made.

Insomniac bigotry. 😡 It's not a choice you know. It's a 'condition'. Let us live! 😭

I often post at silly o'clock just because I'm insomniac. I hope my posts are not taken as "bitchy comments", but who knows?

This 👆💯

Though I do admit to sometimes trying to figure out what timezone some of our resident TRAs are in (US, often East Coast I think).

My cat often wakes me at this time so i may be one of these posters! 😂

I’ve often thought that it seems to be around these times that the more aggressive brand of TRA tends to pounce on the day’s threads.

But there are also several regulars who are around during the early hours too and their coherent responses to these ramblings never ceases to impress me. Not sure if that’s what you mean?

One at least from Australia.

Some of us do ns, though. Don't leave bitchy comments though 😂
Unless it's deserved, mwah haha😝

Yep.

It's fine on FWR, because there's a lot of debate here. Plopping and running, or repeatedly engaging in bad faith arguments, speak for themselves. This stuff is still important for people to witness.. (Not talking about good faith disagreement of course, that's great).

What isn't fine is when these (presumably) same people pop up on the relationship board with their really regressive attitudes. The relationships board is life saving for women in abusive relationships. I wish misogynists could be screened out!

I feel bad for having such a dim view of American posters as actually I'm sure there are loads of great ones. But yes, reading "bathroom" and then a whole load of drivel gets a bit boring. I feel like in the UK we are forced to know a lot about American politics but the favour isn't often returned. Our politics are so different.

During term time I live in East Asia OP. I am from the UK and have a UK home address, I vote here in the UK (albeit currently politically homeless). I will be posting at weird times of day again from next week (if MN’s Cloudflare continues to let me). I’d like to hope that those on FWR know I’m not a troll or something by now. My username is a reference to a conversation we all had on one of the Sandie Peggie threads, and the fact I am Scottish. I used to use my regular MN username on FWR until a TRA started following me round the whole site so now I compartmentalise. I can’t always get back to a thread to respond to people tagging me as I work FT and have ADHD and sometimes only get back to a thread long after it has moved on. I’m explaining as one example of a good faith poster on here who posts at odd times.

I’m not in the UK time zone so 3 am is a prime time for me to post and read. I go off the content rather than the time posted.

I don’t know if there are more troll posters at 3 am but suspect so. And MNHQ have fewer ways of dealing with them so we see them more.