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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Darlington Nurses not over

18 replies

Treaclewell · Yesterday 14:14

This came up on my MSN feed, and then vanished. It's from the Express where I managed to retrieve it.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/politics/government/vindictive-nhs-could-still-punish-victorious-trans-row-nurses-for-speaking-the-truth/ar-AA26Yj4K

It seem the lovely Rose has lodged a grievance against the nurses, despite their winning, and the Express is surprises.

MSN

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/politics/government/vindictive-nhs-could-still-punish-victorious-trans-row-nurses-for-speaking-the-truth/ar-AA26Yj4K

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YeahNoBut · Yesterday 15:16

Apparently, it is the Nursing and Midwifery Council which is proceeding with the complaints against the 26 nurses who signed the original complaint…

MrsTomRipley · Yesterday 16:07

FFS

InconvenientlyMaterial · Yesterday 16:23

Fucking hell

Spend our money on healthcare please, NHS.

1984Now · Yesterday 16:38

This is political incontinence, public bodies can't help p***g themselves in public.
When I first read that trans ideology was a cult and those supporting it were in a caste, what you might call the lanyard caste or credentialised class caste, I couldn't quite envisage it.
Now I see it as nothing other.
The SC ruling in favour of biological sex.
A court case that the Darlington nurses win and the NHS trust loses.
And the result is...the nurses are continually attacked.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · Yesterday 17:43

I do worry that such a number of people in positions of power have literally lost their minds.

MrsOvertonsWindow · Yesterday 17:50

The Nursing and Midwifery Council ... Are they still stonewall diversity champions?
If they are then they're not balanced or neutral (or even professional). They're in the pockets of a trans lobby group and have signed up to their demands.
Women won't stand a chance..

JellySaurus · Yesterday 18:27

Midwifery. Of all the professional associations to have embraced genderwang and the men’s rights ideology. Midwifery. The mind boggles.

NebulousSupportPostcard · Yesterday 18:46

Rose made the grievance a long time ago, and it was put on hold pending the tribunal. But the tribunal decision was published 14 Jan, so Darlington is well out of time on concluding that process.

The NMC complaints were made by members of the public, I think, and NMC has also had 6 months since tribunal decision to conclude any investigation.

What a shower of shite all round.

Pudmyboy · Yesterday 18:59

The NMC do not support nurses imo.
I remember, years ago (90s?), a nurse whistle blew terrible practice (I can't remember if it was elderly care or learning difficulty, certainly the patient group was vulnerable), after she had tried to get management to take notice but got nowhere. She ended up feeling she had no alternative but to whistle blow to the media and Panorama, or some similar programme, investigated, lots of bad stuff came out. It was a scandal at the time and would have not been unearthed if not for the nurse.
The NMC then struck the nurse off for some spurious reason: bringing nursing into disrepute or not following procedure or something.
There was an outcry from the general public, and I think the NMC may have bowed to pressure to reinstate her but I cannot swear to it, and if I was her I would have told them to stick it up their arse.
NMC is less concerned about the right and wrong of a situation, more about how it looks, to me.
So I am not surprised they are going for the Darlington nurses, the process takes a long time and this will be hanging over the nurses who have already been through so much. Bastards.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · Yesterday 19:06

The process is the punishment - they haven’t got truth, the moral high ground or the law on their side so they use what they have left to punish these nurses. It’s disgusting.

MatronPomfrey · Yesterday 19:27

The NMC will go after them but no investigation into the nurses that have worked in gender clinics.

user1471538275 · Yesterday 19:31

The NMC is a disgrace. It does not exist to protect nurses - that's not what it is for.

It exists to protect the public apparently - and they believe that nurses asking for basic dignity is a threat somehow - it's the saying No to men that they really don't like.

NebulousSupportPostcard · Yesterday 22:01

Oh! I just read a couple of reports that said the 4 nurses reported to NMC were the four in the TV appearance. In that case the incident, and the tribunal commentary on it, are in the public domain and there can be no good reason for further delay? WTF?!

SinnerBoy · Yesterday 22:20

Thanks, @Treaclewell

I saw this and put a link on the SEEN thread and the most recent Darlo Nurses thread. They had no choice but to blow the whistle to the press, because they were given the bum's rush by management.

It's simply spiteful to threaten this now, in a fit of pique from the losers in charge. They ought to be sacked, but instead, they are having a campaign of abuse.

The NMC should protect them, not beat them up.

NebulousSupportPostcard · Yesterday 23:03

SinnerBoy · Yesterday 22:20

Thanks, @Treaclewell

I saw this and put a link on the SEEN thread and the most recent Darlo Nurses thread. They had no choice but to blow the whistle to the press, because they were given the bum's rush by management.

It's simply spiteful to threaten this now, in a fit of pique from the losers in charge. They ought to be sacked, but instead, they are having a campaign of abuse.

The NMC should protect them, not beat them up.

Edited

I think there are two separate outstanding issues.

The Darlington NHS issue is that Rose raised a grievance about the nurses who signed the letter of complaint about him, and that grievance was put on hold pending the outcome of the tribunal. The employer must complete that grievance investigation process (but they shouldn't have dragged their feet once the tribunal decision was published).

The NMC complaints were made not by NHS body, but by members of the public following the 4 nurses TV appearance. I think at least one tabloid described it as an investigation into 26 nurses, but it's not, Christian Concern have confirmed it is just the 4 who were on TV.Again, NMC must complete at least the preliminary investigation, but really shouldn't be taking this long.

IonianNerveGrip · Today 07:34

NebulousSupportPostcard · Yesterday 23:03

I think there are two separate outstanding issues.

The Darlington NHS issue is that Rose raised a grievance about the nurses who signed the letter of complaint about him, and that grievance was put on hold pending the outcome of the tribunal. The employer must complete that grievance investigation process (but they shouldn't have dragged their feet once the tribunal decision was published).

The NMC complaints were made not by NHS body, but by members of the public following the 4 nurses TV appearance. I think at least one tabloid described it as an investigation into 26 nurses, but it's not, Christian Concern have confirmed it is just the 4 who were on TV.Again, NMC must complete at least the preliminary investigation, but really shouldn't be taking this long.

I agree. Both organisations do have to deal with the complaints made, and they shouldn't be able to opt out of that. But it can and should involve prompt resolution. The tribunal decision was months ago, so they've had ample time to tell Rose to do one.

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