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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

IPSO ruling in Molly v Sunday Times - the press can call men in dresses men

96 replies

fromorbit · Yesterday 09:12

Another win.

For Women Scotland

Very much enjoying the IPSO ruling in Molly v Sunday Times.

The press should note that columnists are at liberty to call Euan a "bloke", a "lunatic", and "Mr Molly".

00092-26 Molly v The Sunday Times - IPSO
Sophie Molly complained to the Independent Press Standards Organisation that The Sunday Times breached Clause 1 (Accuracy), Clause 3 (Harassment) and Clause 12 (Discrimination) of the Editors’ Code of Practice in an article headlined “How the ex-Green stole Christmas”, published on 21 December 2025.
https://www.ipso.co.uk/rulings/00092-26/

Sparkles lost every single claim. This is a HUGE win for sexing blokes correctly in the Press. Thanks Sparkles we could not have done this without you being a lunatic. Your attempt to steal Christmas brought a gift to every boy and girl who knows their own sex.

NB The facts around Molly/Sparkles reliability and sex is a key focus in the upcoming libel trial for the Fox Botherer so If I was JM I would be panicking. If you winning anything legal depends on Sparkles you are doomed. Sarah has now issued her claim and it is heading for court.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5511121-glp-are-going-after-sarah-phillimore-and-are-going-to-lose-part-two?page=22

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The Story so Far *Part 1 * The first thread [[https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5400132-glp-are-going-after-sarah-philmore-and-are-going-to...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5511121-glp-are-going-after-sarah-phillimore-and-are-going-to-lose-part-two?page=22

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CornishDaughteroftheDawn · Yesterday 11:10

Mmmnotsure · Yesterday 10:52

Helpful: don't read the ruling and drink coffee at the same time.

Thanks for the tip - I’ll proceed with caution 🤣

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · Yesterday 11:14

Has IPSO had a change of personnel recently? Last time they came up they were completely captured afaik.

What a refreshing change though. And as far as this ruling is on an opinion piece, I would imagine that the case for reporting sex accurately is even stronger in news items.

May Jollyon could oblige bring a case to prove this in court for us? He’s saving women a fortune in legal action.

IrnBruAndDietCoke · Yesterday 11:19

PachacutisBadAuntie · Yesterday 09:47

The ruling is funnier than the column, but if anyone would like to read the original it's at the end of this Rod Liddle piece
https://www.thetimes.com/article/525b24cf-b1a8-4d86-9905-0cd03ef8a48d?shareToken=23f579c2d8c8965c2425f62e7ebec65e&ver=article

Thanks, I really enjoyed this whole column. Now pondering getting a subscription to support the continued employment of people who actually see reality as it is.

Bertiebiscuit · Yesterday 11:20

He can call himself "sparkles" as much as he likes, won't change his DNA, his chromosomes, his Adams apple, and his massive clown feet. No one thinks he's a woman, which he claims to be, which is surely the inescapable definition of "lunacy".

Waitwhat23 · Yesterday 11:26

ah, it truly gave me joy to see this - Molly/Sparkles/who the fuck knows and his little band of polycule weirdos have been pandered to far too much in Scottish civic life. It's been embarrassing frankly.

Bertiebiscuit · Yesterday 11:30

So, finally journalists have to return to fulfilling their job descriptions of writing the truth,, telling us actual facts, reporting on reality instead of feeding us obvious lies. About bloody time, all the ones who have written "she" when reporting on a man should be sacked and never allowed to publish ever again.

RoyalCorgi · Yesterday 11:36

Has IPSO had a change of personnel recently? Last time they came up they were completely captured afaik.

I wondered that. The new tone is refreshing. It's also significant that they twice refer to the Supreme Court ruling, which they are clearly using to endorse the view that biological sex overrules gender identity.

SirChenjins · Yesterday 11:40

Oh this is joyous - another one bites the dust ! 😂 I don't have any other SM - has the lunatic given his reaction to the ruling yet?

teawamutu · Yesterday 11:42

ErrolTheDragon · Yesterday 10:47

I’ve thought this for a long time - there have been so many blatantly inaccurate articles and especially inaccurate and misleading headlines over the years.

Let's try it!

murasaki · Yesterday 11:46

Oh I did enjoy reading that ruling!

Comtesse · Yesterday 11:51

I am no fan of Rod Liddle but censoring a writer complaining about censorship would be pretty Orwellian….

SirChenjins · Yesterday 11:59

If I were a young lawyer I would be eyeing up the genderwoo as a potential gold mine of a career path - it's one successful case after another, and it's only going to get better.

BunfightBetty · Yesterday 12:11

Delicious.

PachacutisBadAuntie · Yesterday 12:18

IrnBruAndDietCoke · Yesterday 11:19

Thanks, I really enjoyed this whole column. Now pondering getting a subscription to support the continued employment of people who actually see reality as it is.

They frequently do a four months for a quid offer (I think) which is long enough to decide if it's worth it. I did that after finally giving up on the Guardian, partly following Hadley Freeman's move but also I wanted to read Janice Turner's columns. There are several other columnists I enjoy reading and I find the breadth of opinion refreshing. It was a bit of a revelation to come out from under the stifling left wing progressive blanket.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 12:28

I'm glad that sanity won the day, maybe the lunatics are not in charge of the asylum after all, just the bits they've imprisoned themselves in. 🤪

ErrolTheDragon · Yesterday 12:38

DH has subscriptions for most of the papers which need one. Gets an introductory offer then when they try to bump up the price for renewal is adamant he’ll cancel till they drop the price to something more reasonable.

Igmum · Yesterday 12:43

Such good news - and yes the TRAs are saving women a fortune in court fees Grin

Waitwhat23 · Yesterday 13:08

SirChenjins · Yesterday 11:40

Oh this is joyous - another one bites the dust ! 😂 I don't have any other SM - has the lunatic given his reaction to the ruling yet?

Nothing I can see on Twitter. I'm not on Bluesky.

The polycule are probably having a mass tantrum in their creepy hovel at the moment. I'm surprised we can't hear their collective gnashing of teeth across Scotland.

Zoonosis · Yesterday 13:19

I wouldn’t get over-confident about the Sarah Phillimore case, the grounds of the IPSO ruling are that the article was satirical and intended to be provocative and that as a one-off it couldn’t constitute harassment as it wasn’t a pattern of behaviour, SP has neither of these defenses in her favour. Also IPSO is a press regulator which neither contributes to rulings or sets precedent for libel cases.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 13:24

Amazing.

This stood out

The complainant was the individual referenced in the article. She said the article breached Clause 1 as it was inaccurate to refer to her as a “bloke” and “Mr Molly” as she is a woman. She also said it was inaccurate to refer to her as a “lunatic”.

She and her still. Institutions and organisations still refer to men this way, unfortunately.

I’m glad the ruling was as it was though.

SirChenjins · Yesterday 13:29

Waitwhat23 · Yesterday 13:08

Nothing I can see on Twitter. I'm not on Bluesky.

The polycule are probably having a mass tantrum in their creepy hovel at the moment. I'm surprised we can't hear their collective gnashing of teeth across Scotland.

Edited

It is indeed sad times for the shims 😭

murasaki · Yesterday 13:32

It does all add to the bundle of stuff showing Mr Molly is a vexatious litigant. Although he's well behind Fat Tony on that front.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 13:36

Mmmnotsure · Yesterday 10:52

Helpful: don't read the ruling and drink coffee at the same time.

I’ve only just opened the thread and I have a coffee!

murasaki · Yesterday 13:44

Put it down before reading the full ruling....

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 13:49

“Mr Molly” is hilarious in and of itself 🤣

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