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Former teacher guilty of sexually abusing and murdering baby boy he wanted to adopt - CPS

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IwantToRetire · 15/06/2026 17:52

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A former teacher has been found guilty of sexually abusing and murdering a baby boy that he planned to adopt.

Jamie Varley, 37, was convicted at Preston Crown Court of murder, child cruelty, sexual offences and indecent images relating to 13-month-old Preston Davey.

John McGowan-Fazakerley, 32, was convicted of allowing the death of a child, child cruelty and sexual assault.

Varley was in the process of adopting baby Preston (also known as Elijah) with his partner McGowan-Fazakerley. Just four months after being placed with the couple, Preston was taken to Blackpool Victoria Hospital unconscious and in cardiac arrest. Sadly, Preston could not be saved.

Varley tried falsely claiming that Preston had accidentally drowned in a bath, but prosecutors were able to prove that his injuries were consistent with his airways being obstructed.

The evidence presented by the prosecution proved that in the final months of Preston’s life, he was routinely ill-treated, sexually abused and physically assaulted – suffering more than 40 separate injuries.

CPS statement continues at https://www.cps.gov.uk/north-west/news/former-teacher-guilty-sexually-abusing-and-murdering-baby-boy-he-wanted-adopt

More from a BBC report - also distressing:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyp77l79e9o

I thought there was a thread about this, but cant find one. But sorry if a duplicate.

I really only wanted to post out of respect for this poor baby and the horror of his short life.

RIP Flowers

Baby with curly light brown hair sitting in high chair. He has his finger in his mouth. He is wearing a baby grow with an elephant on it.

How adoptive parents' lies unravelled to reveal 'reign of terror'

Preston Davey died in hospital in July 2023 after months of sexual and physical abuse at the hands.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyp77l79e9o

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Arran2024 · Yesterday 14:43

logiccalls · Yesterday 14:29

Actually in the Preston case the photo was put on a site for gay men to choose. And there was a perfect, and eager, adopter who knew and loved him dearly: His own grandmother: She was already happily bringing up his sister, and they both were counting the days till he could join them.

But an unfortunate coincidence meant that grandmother's masectomy and then her follow-up cancer treatment coincided with his birth, and his first months. Her surgeons would not permit her to lift a baby, until she got her 'all clear' and recovered her strength.

She was almost at that point, when social workers swooped on the foster mother, refusing to allow her to keep Preston for just another couple of months, which was all the surgeon had asked, before baby could join his sister in care of his grandmother.

Grandmother and foster mother did not live far apart and were in close contact, which they had agreed to continue, so the break from one carer to the next would be a gentle transition for him.

He was not a deep sleeper, (pre-natal damage?) but apart from that, was not at all a 'problem' for the foster mother. Nor likely to be a problem for his own grandmother and sister.

Relatives often offer to take children and are refused. This can be for all sorts of reasons. Just because grandmother says she wanted to do and declares herself able is simply her perspective. Social services clearly had misgivings.

Obviously I don't know the ins and outs, but social services are duty bound to consider family members first and there will be reasons for rejecting the family member and going for adoption. They can't defend themselves by going public on their reasons, but I would imagine there were good reasons to say no.

Foster carers often report their charges to be easy - of course they are highly experienced and often not making the demands on children that parents will. My girls' foster mother was one of those super carers who had fostered several hundred children. She was able to do this partly by keeping a distance between herself and the children, feeding and looking after them, letting them play in her big garden. It was a lovely environment for children rescued from a horrible situation but she never eg took them out of the house. They didn't go to nursery, have to share with other children. Foster care is not always real life as most people know it.

logiccalls · Yesterday 14:56

followtheswallow · Yesterday 14:33

She wasn’t really perfect, was she? She was well into her sixties and suffering from cancer. My heart goes out to her, but I can quite see why it was felt adoption was in Preston’s best interests.

Having had cancer is so common, it cannot rule anyone out of caring for a child. Being over 60 is so common, it cannot rule anyone out of caring for a child.

Do you suggest that every grandmother must have their grandchild snatched away by the State? Everyone who has ever had cancer, too?

At sixty, she could potentially live another forty years. If a mother has died or for whatever reason cannot care for a baby, the mother's mother is the most natural one to love and care for him.

Preston's grandmother already cares, very well, for his sister. Preston's highly experienced foster mother had established a good relationship with his grandmother, and was extremely satisfied that within two months, he would be able to make a seamless transition from one home to another. They were nearby, and contact would continue. The surgeons wanted just a two month delay, before grandmother began lifting a one year old baby.

In what possible way could a pair of gay men, hostile to contact with grandmother or foster mother, and not living nearby, were 'superior' to his grandmother?

If you truly believe that being sixty, or having had cancer, make a woman an incapable and unfit person to take care of her own beloved grandchildren, do you therefore believe she should have her little grand-daughter taken away from her, too, and adopted by strangers, ideally the 'superior caste' of gay men who have never lived with a child?

Jane379 · Yesterday 15:16

logiccalls · Yesterday 14:03

Years ago, state schools were regularly visited by the 'nit-nurse'. Knowing the entire school would have their hair examined meant there was no shame, disgrace or difficulty in accepting it. If the entire school knows everyone gets a (discreet) weight and physical MOT, at intervals, and that even home-schooled and privately schooled children must have the same checks, it would seem likely to be accepted fairly readily, apart from those parents, step parents etc. who are already abusing, or intend to abuse, children over whom they have power.

The full MOT method would mean that if some children have questionable results, such as unusual bruising, it would be possible to recall the child for a follow -up, without anyone knowing why. It could be hinted that there was an unusual pulse rate, or an unusual increase, or lack of increase, in height: It could be anything. Parents, children and school-friends would not be 'identified' or marked out, just for needing a repeat of a medical MOT.

I think this would be a good idea.

Jane379 · Yesterday 15:18

Grammarnut · Yesterday 14:20

Despite what we are told prison is not the holiday camp you describe. Both perpetrators of this crime will need to be in solitary confinement for their protection. And rape in male prisons is endemic.
I am not sorry for them for they abused a small, helpless child. Basically they persuaded Social Services to given a living sex toy. But I do not want them harmed because that harms others.

Exactly. People need to realise that rape and murder in male prisoners isn't something to cheer on, it shows the staff has lost control.

I don't feel any sympathy either. But I want prison staff to be safe. And some people could be wrongly imprisoned.

ConveyancingHelll · Yesterday 15:32

Imdunfer · Yesterday 13:28

Your assumption that baby = high demand shows a really simplified understanding of the realities of the adoption process

I was talking about Preston, not the adoption process in general.

My assumption that a healthy, perfect, angelic looking little boy with huge eyes, a big smile, adorable curly hair and no record of abuse who had shown no issues in months with a foster placement would not be short of potential adoptive parents is correct, though, isn't it?

I'll eat my hat if a gay couple were the only people who could be found for Preston.

You could literally be describing my son with that description.

And yet he waited two years before being adopted because a match could not be found until we came along.

Maybe they were queuing out the door to adopt him. But you don't know that. because there are lots of factors that may or may not have been at play that none of us know about. Almost all babies in the adoption system have significant uncertainty about their future needs because of their in utero. You have no idea and nor do I what uncertainties might have existed for Preston.

ConveyancingHelll · Yesterday 16:17

hihelenhi · Yesterday 13:05

No, it's not nonsense at all, I'm afraid in this case. Two points.

  • Status as adopted parents v foster carers. Under Regulation 25A of the Care Planning Regulations 2010, anyone who has a child placed with them for adoption is temporarily approved as what is known as a local authority foster carer until the final Adoption Order is granted in court, as per the below link. https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2010/959/regulation/25A. As we have established, although Preston had been placed, the final adoption order had not yet been granted.The couple were effectively on probation still with Preston still in the care of the local authority.
  • Safer Caring Rules At their stage in the adoption process, both JV and JMF were legally operating as foster carers under an interim care order. JV would therefore be bound by the exact same rules regarding nudity and bathing as any other foster parent. This includes no shared bathing, nudity etc and strict prohibition on naked photos.

Regardless, naked bathing of JV with Preston would not have been considered appropriate at this stage of the adoption process even though Preston had been placed with them, and in fact, as we know, absolutely did turn out to be a precursor to his sexual abuse by JV and ultimate murder. Both that and the naked photo-taking in fact would be safeguarding red flags at that point. As the jury found.

You're reading of the law is wrong.

Regulation 25A governs the arrangements for early permanence/foster to adopt routes. 25A allows LAs to identify a prospective adopter for a child who will probably need to be adopted, but for whom a placement order has not yet been granted. This is most often newborn babies. The prospective adoptive parents are foster parent before the child is placed for adoption and are adoptive parents after the placement order is made. The idea is that a child gets continuity of care.

The more usual and traditional route of adoption takes place under the Adoption and Children Act 2002, section 25 of which says:

"25Parental responsibility
(1)This section applies while—
(a)a child is placed for adoption under section 19 or an adoption agency is authorised to place a child for adoption under that section, or
(b)a placement order is in force in respect of a child.
(2)Parental responsibility for the child is given to the agency concerned.
(3)While the child is placed with prospective adopters, parental responsibility is given to them.
(4)The agency may determine that the parental responsibility of any parent or guardian, or of prospective adopters, is to be restricted to the extent specified in the determination."

In other words - from the moment a child is placed with adoptive parents, those adoptive parents hold parental responsibility, shared with the local authority before the adoption order is made. Adoptive parents are not foster carers or subject to the same rules as foster carers in that scenario.

ConveyancingHelll · Yesterday 16:28

logiccalls · Yesterday 14:29

Actually in the Preston case the photo was put on a site for gay men to choose. And there was a perfect, and eager, adopter who knew and loved him dearly: His own grandmother: She was already happily bringing up his sister, and they both were counting the days till he could join them.

But an unfortunate coincidence meant that grandmother's masectomy and then her follow-up cancer treatment coincided with his birth, and his first months. Her surgeons would not permit her to lift a baby, until she got her 'all clear' and recovered her strength.

She was almost at that point, when social workers swooped on the foster mother, refusing to allow her to keep Preston for just another couple of months, which was all the surgeon had asked, before baby could join his sister in care of his grandmother.

Grandmother and foster mother did not live far apart and were in close contact, which they had agreed to continue, so the break from one carer to the next would be a gentle transition for him.

He was not a deep sleeper, (pre-natal damage?) but apart from that, was not at all a 'problem' for the foster mother. Nor likely to be a problem for his own grandmother and sister.

Actually in the Preston case the photo was put on a site for gay men to choose.
'Put on a site for gay men to choose' is wrong though, isn't it. The site in question is a site called Linkmaker. It is not a site specifically for gay men. Most prospective adopters are given access to Linkmaker to view the actual profiles of children that are family finding.

Arran2024 · Yesterday 16:32

ConveyancingHelll · Yesterday 16:17

You're reading of the law is wrong.

Regulation 25A governs the arrangements for early permanence/foster to adopt routes. 25A allows LAs to identify a prospective adopter for a child who will probably need to be adopted, but for whom a placement order has not yet been granted. This is most often newborn babies. The prospective adoptive parents are foster parent before the child is placed for adoption and are adoptive parents after the placement order is made. The idea is that a child gets continuity of care.

The more usual and traditional route of adoption takes place under the Adoption and Children Act 2002, section 25 of which says:

"25Parental responsibility
(1)This section applies while—
(a)a child is placed for adoption under section 19 or an adoption agency is authorised to place a child for adoption under that section, or
(b)a placement order is in force in respect of a child.
(2)Parental responsibility for the child is given to the agency concerned.
(3)While the child is placed with prospective adopters, parental responsibility is given to them.
(4)The agency may determine that the parental responsibility of any parent or guardian, or of prospective adopters, is to be restricted to the extent specified in the determination."

In other words - from the moment a child is placed with adoptive parents, those adoptive parents hold parental responsibility, shared with the local authority before the adoption order is made. Adoptive parents are not foster carers or subject to the same rules as foster carers in that scenario.

"Restricted" is important here. There are rules around what you can and can't do after placement. You can't decide to home school for example. You probably can't go abroad.

Arran2024 · Yesterday 16:35

ThePieceHall · Yesterday 14:24

It very clearly says that from that brief snapshot that a key part of the IRO job is to act as a first point of contact for children and advocate for their interests. IROs are most commonly very senior and experienced social workers. Just because it doesn’t specifically say in this very limited description that they don’t visit the homes of children, does not mean it doesn’t happen. There are statutory guidelines on how often children who are looked after, as Preston was, should be visited.

They do not have responsibility for checking on children in their placement. My friend is a social worker - i just spoke to her. Turns out her husband is an independent reviewing officer and it's an office job. He doesn't visit children.

ConveyancingHelll · Yesterday 16:41

Arran2024 · Yesterday 16:32

"Restricted" is important here. There are rules around what you can and can't do after placement. You can't decide to home school for example. You probably can't go abroad.

You can go abroad, but you need permission of the local authority. Likewise, you can't apply for a passport yourself. But the key thing is that the poster claiming that adopters who are pre-adoption order are bound by the same rules as foster parents was totally wrong.

ConveyancingHelll · Yesterday 16:42

logiccalls · Yesterday 14:56

Having had cancer is so common, it cannot rule anyone out of caring for a child. Being over 60 is so common, it cannot rule anyone out of caring for a child.

Do you suggest that every grandmother must have their grandchild snatched away by the State? Everyone who has ever had cancer, too?

At sixty, she could potentially live another forty years. If a mother has died or for whatever reason cannot care for a baby, the mother's mother is the most natural one to love and care for him.

Preston's grandmother already cares, very well, for his sister. Preston's highly experienced foster mother had established a good relationship with his grandmother, and was extremely satisfied that within two months, he would be able to make a seamless transition from one home to another. They were nearby, and contact would continue. The surgeons wanted just a two month delay, before grandmother began lifting a one year old baby.

In what possible way could a pair of gay men, hostile to contact with grandmother or foster mother, and not living nearby, were 'superior' to his grandmother?

If you truly believe that being sixty, or having had cancer, make a woman an incapable and unfit person to take care of her own beloved grandchildren, do you therefore believe she should have her little grand-daughter taken away from her, too, and adopted by strangers, ideally the 'superior caste' of gay men who have never lived with a child?

It's been pointed out to you before that there was never a point where this was a choice between a grandmother and two gay men.

That's not how the adoption system works. If you're going to pronounce on something with certainty please get your facts right.

Jane379 · Yesterday 16:44

ConveyancingHelll · Yesterday 16:28

Actually in the Preston case the photo was put on a site for gay men to choose.
'Put on a site for gay men to choose' is wrong though, isn't it. The site in question is a site called Linkmaker. It is not a site specifically for gay men. Most prospective adopters are given access to Linkmaker to view the actual profiles of children that are family finding.

Yes, which article said it was a site only for gay men? I didn't think there were sites like that though it's possible there are.

ThePieceHall · Yesterday 16:45

Arran2024 · Yesterday 16:35

They do not have responsibility for checking on children in their placement. My friend is a social worker - i just spoke to her. Turns out her husband is an independent reviewing officer and it's an office job. He doesn't visit children.

Well mine, certainly did. Maybe it varies from authority?

mrsbowes · Yesterday 16:52

logiccalls · Yesterday 14:56

Having had cancer is so common, it cannot rule anyone out of caring for a child. Being over 60 is so common, it cannot rule anyone out of caring for a child.

Do you suggest that every grandmother must have their grandchild snatched away by the State? Everyone who has ever had cancer, too?

At sixty, she could potentially live another forty years. If a mother has died or for whatever reason cannot care for a baby, the mother's mother is the most natural one to love and care for him.

Preston's grandmother already cares, very well, for his sister. Preston's highly experienced foster mother had established a good relationship with his grandmother, and was extremely satisfied that within two months, he would be able to make a seamless transition from one home to another. They were nearby, and contact would continue. The surgeons wanted just a two month delay, before grandmother began lifting a one year old baby.

In what possible way could a pair of gay men, hostile to contact with grandmother or foster mother, and not living nearby, were 'superior' to his grandmother?

If you truly believe that being sixty, or having had cancer, make a woman an incapable and unfit person to take care of her own beloved grandchildren, do you therefore believe she should have her little grand-daughter taken away from her, too, and adopted by strangers, ideally the 'superior caste' of gay men who have never lived with a child?

For one thing, a couple in their 30s one of whom has a successful track record with adolescents as a teacher, could be seen as a much better option to manage a teenage boy who may have very challenging behaviour than an elderly single woman who has previously really struggled to raise a teenager.

The social workers would have been considering the long term.
The idea that they thought gay men were a cool choice sounds ridiculous to me.

hihelenhi · Yesterday 17:01

ConveyancingHelll · Yesterday 16:17

You're reading of the law is wrong.

Regulation 25A governs the arrangements for early permanence/foster to adopt routes. 25A allows LAs to identify a prospective adopter for a child who will probably need to be adopted, but for whom a placement order has not yet been granted. This is most often newborn babies. The prospective adoptive parents are foster parent before the child is placed for adoption and are adoptive parents after the placement order is made. The idea is that a child gets continuity of care.

The more usual and traditional route of adoption takes place under the Adoption and Children Act 2002, section 25 of which says:

"25Parental responsibility
(1)This section applies while—
(a)a child is placed for adoption under section 19 or an adoption agency is authorised to place a child for adoption under that section, or
(b)a placement order is in force in respect of a child.
(2)Parental responsibility for the child is given to the agency concerned.
(3)While the child is placed with prospective adopters, parental responsibility is given to them.
(4)The agency may determine that the parental responsibility of any parent or guardian, or of prospective adopters, is to be restricted to the extent specified in the determination."

In other words - from the moment a child is placed with adoptive parents, those adoptive parents hold parental responsibility, shared with the local authority before the adoption order is made. Adoptive parents are not foster carers or subject to the same rules as foster carers in that scenario.

It isn't at all, and your constant bad faith posting on this is getting incredibly tiresome.

Yes, we know your main aim here is to attempt to prove that I and others who have very good reason to care about safeguarding and basic child protection are wrong, "lunatic fringe" and all the other childish insults you have chosen to throw at us, and believe the wishes of adopting adults take precedence over child safety needs, which you seem to have assumed we know nothing about either, including silly claims about things we are supposed to have said on other threads.

You vastly underestimate both my and others' experience and knowledge, btw. I and other adults know you're wrong, people who work in child protection and child abuse research know you're wrong, I'd be pretty certain further inquiries into Preston's murder would show you're wrong, most foster carers I know (and there are several, including my own family) know you're wrong. I'm not going to continue arguing with you. There really is little point in engaging with your posts. They are not remotely constructive.

As I said, safeguarding is everyone's responsibility. You don't want it to be yours and want to continue to castigate people who prioitise it in favour of adult wishes? It's really up to you. But I find it unnecessary and unhelpful.

followtheswallow · Yesterday 17:01

People differing in their view isn’t posting in bad faith.

hihelenhi · Yesterday 17:03

followtheswallow · Yesterday 17:01

People differing in their view isn’t posting in bad faith.

That's nice, dear.

fartotheleftside · Yesterday 17:11

they actually didn't upload a picture of Preston to the site, just his story. His foster mum was aware that he was a very cute baby and wanted people to be drawn to his story rather than his looks.

hihelenhi · Yesterday 17:14

fartotheleftside · Yesterday 17:11

they actually didn't upload a picture of Preston to the site, just his story. His foster mum was aware that he was a very cute baby and wanted people to be drawn to his story rather than his looks.

Ah, interesting. Where did you see that?

MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 17:18

I just posted on another thread (photo under review) a screenshot of the agency’s website which placed Preston -Adoption Now - where they mention working with an LGBTQ+ organisation; this needs some investigation in case bad actors are using this route to access children under the guise of inclusivity and acceptance.

mrsbowes · Yesterday 17:22

MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 17:18

I just posted on another thread (photo under review) a screenshot of the agency’s website which placed Preston -Adoption Now - where they mention working with an LGBTQ+ organisation; this needs some investigation in case bad actors are using this route to access children under the guise of inclusivity and acceptance.

Anyone can go to any adoption agency and face exactly the same process as everyone else.

fartotheleftside · Yesterday 17:25

In both cases of adopted babies being murdered by their gay male parents, the main perpetrator has been a stay at home dad.

In adoption they require one person to be at home full-time for the first year.

They also don't encourage you to introduce them to wider family, friends etc for a while.

So many mums only get through maternity leave through seeing family, friends, and making new mum connections, through antenatal classes and baby groups.

It seems like an incredibly isolating thing to ask people to do when usually people use this time to build a new parenting network.

I wonder if men, as a result of male socialisation (they're not exactly primed to be self-sacrificing and have higher levels of aggression) sometimes cope with this scenario quite badly.

Arran2024 · Yesterday 17:28

fartotheleftside · Yesterday 17:25

In both cases of adopted babies being murdered by their gay male parents, the main perpetrator has been a stay at home dad.

In adoption they require one person to be at home full-time for the first year.

They also don't encourage you to introduce them to wider family, friends etc for a while.

So many mums only get through maternity leave through seeing family, friends, and making new mum connections, through antenatal classes and baby groups.

It seems like an incredibly isolating thing to ask people to do when usually people use this time to build a new parenting network.

I wonder if men, as a result of male socialisation (they're not exactly primed to be self-sacrificing and have higher levels of aggression) sometimes cope with this scenario quite badly.

I wonder if we will see similar cases with surrogacy. While one man is the biological father, the other isn't. And they have very little oversight.

Arran2024 · Yesterday 17:29

fartotheleftside · Yesterday 17:11

they actually didn't upload a picture of Preston to the site, just his story. His foster mum was aware that he was a very cute baby and wanted people to be drawn to his story rather than his looks.

I have googled and cannot find any info on the family finding process or what they put on link maker. Do you have a link?

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