Ireland - "Transgender childcare worker sacked for offering child 'a free kiss' as a prize"

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A nursery hired a man called Aleena Starshine (🙄) and 4 days into his employment he offered a child a kiss from him as a reward for winning a game. He was suspended for this and other safeguarding concerns, and then tried to claim gender discrimination. Thankfully, he lost.

https://businessplus.ie/news/transgender-childcare-worker-sacked/

Speaking as an Irish person ...

While this is true, I'm surprised at how little impact gender bollocks has actually made day to day in the country - with a few notable exceptions, including this one.

Culturally, the desire to not stand out, to think about the impact (and reaction) of the community has kept the lid on it for most people. So while our politicians are virtue signalling to space and our laws are a mess, the actual impact on the ground is nothing like as bad as you might think. A very different situation to the UK.

I was really surprised to find this story was Irish - and from a more rural part of the country.

It’s far more accepted there than in the UK, both in law and in practice.

Look at the Barbie Kardashian case for another example.

No it isn't.

Legally yes, but not in practice.

That last name has more red flags than a Commie rally in downtown Moscow.

The cute-sy Anime name should have seen his CV go straight in the bloody bin.

As another poster pointed out, there must be ‘a fellow traveller’ on the recruitment panel.

The BK case was like the Isla Bryson one - it made a lot of people aware of the reality behind the virtue signalling.

BK [orignally Gabriel Alejandro Gentile] was removed from the women's prison he was first placed in - tricky, because he has a GRC and is legally female, but everybody from the then Taoiseach down agreed that it was wrong for him to be in the women's prison, and the feeling that it 'just wasn't right' overrode BK's legal status.

He served his time and is out in society and still as dangerous and disturbed as ever.
He is a very damaged human being, arguably a danger to himself as well as to others, but apparently not enough to be deprived of his liberty on that basis.

The Aleena Starshine case and the accompanying photo could also be a wake-up call for neutrals, but as far as I can see it hasn't been reported other than in Business Plus.

The case of a trans-IDing man playing on a women's Gaelic football team a while ago produced this very telling photo. So telling that the subject, 'Giulia Valentino' asked for it not to be published in order to protect his ID or safety or something - yeah right!🙄, and the photo quickly disappeared. But not before some of us had saved it, and share it at every available opportunity..

The more the general public see photos like these, the more the sparkle will wear off the virtue signalling.

[Note that this is not making nasty comments about people's appearance for the sake of it, it is about men claiming to be women, maybe even claiming to pass, who don't look even remotely like women.
Are Aleena and Giulia etc. deluded enough to think they actually look like women, or are they just cynically hiding behind anti-discrimination laws and taking the p*ss?]

I'm from Ulster and, from my experience, Donegal has a strange tension between conservative and woke populations - possibly a wee bit more so than most Irish counties. And the woke seem very determined to drag the entire population into progressiveness, kicking and screaming, so I can imagine a school hiring board wanting to virtue signal by hiring this man.

I too would be very interested in who hired this guy. It appears he lasted 4 days in the role and was sacked due to parental complaints and other safeguarding failures.

He was obviously a complete liability. Astonishing that he got through an interview process.

At least it isn't a faux-Irish Gaelic name, wrongly spelt , like Alína Ní Rélt-tatnimh [sic] or something😝

Irish family names are ... I was going to say 'gendered', maybe that's all right cos it's to do with language?
So a woman is Ní or Nic i.e. female descendant or daughter of, whereas men are Ó or Mac, male descendant or son - like in Iceland where women have dottir at the end of their name.

This makes it attractive as a way to underline recently-acquired femaleness, but the resulting names sometimes look like Gaelic-adjacent guesswork🙄

and I don't care who is offended, there's no way a transwoman would be working in any facility where there are children ever, if I had any say in it. Too big a risk to take and while it might be a knee jerk reaction I don't care.

It's very tricky, not least because gender re-assignment is now a protected characteristic.

The issue is, of course, that for many men, if not most, identifying as transgender is because of a fetish.

The naivety of the government at the time not understanding that cross-dressing is a fetish. And yes, I know that it was billed almost as a disability. Certainly something that could not be helped. 'Gender dysphoria' covers a multitude of different motivations.

Plus, it's completely unverifiable.

And, as anyone on HR will tell you, yes of course you can discriminate, however illegal it is, there are millions of ways to do it.

But that just avoids the issue, sidesteps it. It doesn't address it.

Personally, I want it addressed. I want people in Parliament to acknowledge that yes, some of these men are fetishists. In the NHS, schools, the lot.

It's the bloody massive, great elephant in the room.

That, and that paraphilias cluster. So having one about women's clothes, doesn't mean don't have one about children. Quite the opposite, in fact, it's more likely.

I've noticed a few of the American trans immigrants have gone for adopting female Irish names and our 'patronymic' naming system. Extra validation points.

So it's an after school care provider? I wonder how many applicants they actually got. Can't be very attractive hours. Not that that's any excuse if the guy was obviously dodgy.

Half of the tran subreddit seems to be planning to move to Ireland, so that equilibrium may be upset soon 😬

The situation in Irish prison is also dire for women

@TheKeatingFive you are moving in circles where this is not the case I work in a sector in the south east where it is very common.

An MP, in the Westminster Women and Equalities Committee, yesterday read a letter from a trans-identifying male constituent, who works as a lorry driver, stating that he is planning to move to Ireland because he dislikes the law being enforced in the UK.

I keep seeing US and UK men stating they want to move here and I'm unhappy that we're viewed as a more lax legal environment for these men to live in because women's rights are not (and never have been) a priority for Irish governments.

In all fairness I live in exactly the parts of Dublin where you'd think it would be most rife ...

Well this the fear.

I can only imagine what a bunch of English, trans identifying men moving here would do for the cause 😵‍💫

Ireland was the test case for Self ID by stealth.
The government and transactivist like to showcase it as a success case.
But, while it hasn't had cases such as the Darlington nurses yet, it is only a matter of time before it does.
All Unions, all public bodies, all NGO's, all political parties with the exception of Aontu, are fully signed up to support Self ID.
There will be no support for any unfortunate woman who finds herself in a similar situation to the Darlington nurses.
Unlike the UK, the Equality Act doesn't have sex as a protected characteristic. Self ID allows a person to change their sex anyway so even that protection wouldn't have protected women.
Leaving aside Barbie Kardashian, there are other ways it is impacting Irish society.
Last week, Ben Scallon asked the Minister for Children, formerly the Minister for Education, about the book What's the T. The book was one on a list by the state broadcaster RTE aimed at children as young as 15. The book is fairly graphic with instructions on how to prepare anus for sex. Foley denied all knowledge of the book though it has since emerged that she had been informed several times as Minister for Education. RTE have now quietly removed the book from it's recommended reading.
https://x.com/i/status/2062172119773982823

Jenny Maguire , formerly Craig, is the former president of Trinity College Students Union. Jenny was also closely involved with Catherine Connolly in her Presidential campaign. Jenny also has a regular column in a National Newspaper where Jenny pontificates about topics such as abortion rights. Jenny also regularly features as a panelist on current affairs programmes and talk shows. Gender critical women are persona non grata.
As President of TCDSU Jenny changed all female toilets to gender neutral. Jenny was photographed as President of TCSU in front of a sign saying F*ck TERF's. Jenny also attended the Let women speak event where Jenny drowned out the women speaking at the event, including a woman who was speaking about the death of her sister in the Tuam mother and baby home.
Jenny is a darling of the Irish media

Helen Joyce, Irish author of a best selling book has never been interviewed on Irish TV. She was eventually recently featured for the first time ever in a National paper after a reader highlighted how unusual it was for a bestselling Irish author to be ignored in this way.

Last week in the Leaving Certificate there was a question in one of the papers asking about pregnant people.
The Busy Bodies book which is a guide for children about puberty removed references to women and girls on the page teaching about periods replacing it with the word people.
Some years ago the same book added a section telling children that eve to y child has a gender identity.
Recently, a newly built secondary school was in the news for it's gender neutral toilets. It later emerged that the original design shown to parents had separate toilets which was quietly changed to gender neutral as the building progressed. There is no evidence that an impact assessment was done.
So while many women may not see a direct impact that doesn't mean it isn't there. It's just happening under the radar as it becomes ingrained in Irish society.

By employing this obviously creepy man to start with?

I'm not denying any of that.

My point is more that culturally, it doesn't appear to have taken hold in the same way. In that men are not trying their luck in women's spaces to the same extent. Obviously there are exceptions, but in a general sense. I also think it's interesting that some of the more high profile 'transwomen' in Ireland are not Irish.

Now that may change. Or we might get lucky and the more general backlash might have an impact just when we need it to.

It just struck me in the midst of a conversation about the UK where someone made the point that you can clarify the legals, but if culturally it has taken hold and men feel empowered (as it has in the nhs for example) that's much harder to address. And it struck me that it was the opposite way round here. Obviously legally we are a shitshow so it would be much harder to root out here if it did take hold to the same degree.

Thanks for this info. You can just write "he" instead of repeating "Jenny" all the time when referring to Maguire.

The other difference in Ireland is that there has never been an indigenous gender service like The Tavistock. Anyone wanting to medically transition has had to leave the country to do so. That may have curbed the numbers of people taking more drastic action, so there's more of an 'off ramp' for those who reconsider.

The article explains that he tried to go for a 'discrimination' claim.

So yes, employers need to be careful.

But anyone openly advertising their fetish on social media should be excluded from working with children.

He could have hidden it, yes, but he didn't.

Do we know that? It's unlocked now, but was it unlocked when he was applying and being interviewed? Teachers are generally advised to be locked at all times, and many adjust their surnames or use a pseudonym so they can't even be searched by pupils. I suspect after school clubs are an altogether less professional setup.

I'd say no, the system did not work. Somebody thought he was suitable to work in a nursery.
Somebody did not get a red flag on sight.
(That manager is not safe for children and needs to go.)
He was allowed to do 4 days harm to children.
It did not work in a similar way to how "individual cubicles" or "unisex" do not work.
We don't allow harm to happen first before stopping it.
We don't allow the safeguarding boundary to be moved.