Fallon Fox being promoted at work Pride event

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My workplace is promoting a series of evening events for Pride. They are heavily focused towards sport this year. Aside from the fact that all the name checked athletes are male (trans identified or gay men) this includes describing Fallon Foxas pinioneering)
Im going to stick my head above the parapit as VAWG is unacceptable so please can someone help me with the links to the boasts around his beating women.
Many thanks

I personally hate the whole concept of boxing; but I accept that a lot of people enjoy participating and watching it. However, it's precisely because it has such potential to cause great physical damage that this is mitigated by strictly matching contestants fairly.

Can you imagine what your managers' reaction would be to a proposed fight between Anthony Joshua and Amir Khan? Just two blokes who are pro boxers, eh, so what's the harm? Except people would be rightly horrified at the obvious gross unfairness of it.... and I'm sure Anthony would never countenance accepting the bout, as what would it actually prove about his own abilities and sportsmanship? What would he actually have 'won'?

So why is it that people are cheerleading horrendously unfair matches in this way? And added to the obvious unfairness, you have to add in the gaslighting and coercion - as in normal boxing, you would never get a heavyweight trying to claim that he was a lightweight, albeit just a lightweight who happens to have a suspiciously large body.

If Fox wants to be a professional boxer, that's absolutely fine; but if Fox has any sense of sporting honour whatsoever, only fair bouts with people of an equivalent weight AND equivalent physical makeup (i.e. also male) would ever be remotely considered.

I agree. But work is uber captured so logic won't work.
Links to the interview about breaking a woman's bones might just make them think

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3941365-Fallon-Fox

Archive of his tweet to JKR. In which he talks about breaking women's skulls:

https://archive.fo/PohHR

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all the name checked athletes are male

That in itself is fucking shocking, OP!

Who the hell is organising this? A bloke, I assume.

Is this useful?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/16/bbc-apologises-interviewing-transgender-athlete-who-boasted/

No the most lovely thoughtful girl in the world who is an ally to everyone....or at least to everyone who shouts the loudest.

I know she's retired now, but couldn't they have gone with somebody like Nicola Adams? An actual female medal-winner and also a lesbian?

Or is just being a woman, as opposed to going on a stunning and brave personal journey to 'becoming' a woman, just too boring to be of any interest?

I see.

Someone who desperately needs a dose of feminism.

Perhaps sharing Tamikka Brents' words might be more appealing, although it sounds like this woman is labouring under a huge cloak of self-hating misogyny.

During Fox's fight against Tamikka Brents on September 13, 2014, Brents suffered a concussion, an orbital bone fracture, and seven staples to the head in the 1st round. After her loss, Brents took to social media to convey her thoughts on the experience of fighting Fox: "I've fought a lot of women and have never felt the strength that I felt in a fight as I did that night. I can't answer whether it's because she was born a man or not because I'm not a doctor. I can only say, I've never felt so overpowered ever in my life and I am an abnormally strong female in my own right", she stated. "Her grip was different, I could usually move around in the clinch against other females but couldn't move at all in Fox's clinch."

Or any of the women involved in rugby or football. Both hugely inclusive with very visible lesbian relationships

This is certainly true of rugby - a married couple, Claudia and Cliodhna Moloney-MacDonald, played in the Ireland v Wales women's 6 Nations match.
On opposite sides - Claudia for Wales and Cliodhna for Ireland!

OP, I'm really sorry you're having to put up with that kind of atmosphere in your place of work.
My suggestion for what it's worth is if you're going to say anything, try to keep it short and punchy, like 'Did you do any background on that Fallon Fox boasting about breaking women's skulls? not very appropriate!'
or 'Couldn't you find any lesbian sportswomen to include in the inclusivity?'

Just to de-rail a bit: never mind never mind the specifics of Fallon Fox or whoever, I thought that most companies - and especially public corporations - were trying to avoid siding with political movements any more. Why on earth is your company still involved in Pride? Aren't they scared of the bad publicity?(someone is bound to keep receipts)
Example link

This is about Stonewall rather than Pride in general - so even more of a de-rail. A siding, or a passing loop, maybe😄

I posted on another thread
'Educate, motivate, and inspire lawmakers' - Stonewall's New 'Proud Employers' scheme and strategy | Mumsnet
two links to reports from 2023 & 2024 about big organisations cutting ties with Stonewall, and two of the reasons give were very practical and non-ideological ones:
concerns about the legal validity of its recommendations, and
whether the scheme provides value for money.

So OP's organisation may be behind the curve on this kind of Pride promotion at work. Very 2020😏

The TQ+ is still instinctively felt as the only important letters in Pride anymore. As if, magically, anyone who is LGB no longer needs recognition or support.

A pride work presentation was 15 slides long and I counted 12 as focusing exclusively on trans.

Fallon Fox?
Wow, I thought I'd never hear that scumbag's name again.
Almost nostalgic for the sharp end of the trans culture war that he was an ignominious player in
I say "almost".
Fox, Hubbard, Thomas, Bridges, Khelif, that specimen on the US girls schools volleyball team that pretty much collapsed their league.

He's been described as a pioneering LBTQ+ athlete

Perhaps loudly ask her to include Martina Navratilova...

Nothing pioneering about being a woman beater. Been done for thousands of years.
But being cheered by liberals for doing it, that is pioneering.

The recommendations in that report are sensible. In N Ireland most employers have what we call a "Flags and Emblems' policy which instructs employees not to wear, or display, at work anything that would be politically or religiously divisive. I think the policy has been less stringently applied in NHS and civil service in recent years when it comes to Pride and Trans because they are seen as 'good' political signalling. But I firmly believe that no political signalling should be allowed in a workplace.

Women’s sport has been so much less homophobic than men’s. So many fantastic lesbian sportswomen. Why not highlight them? Women have shown the way on this!

I've just messaged the girl who organised it and said that Fallon Fox was controversial with a few gentle details.
She's said thank you and that she should have done more research

The documentary may still be shown but its not compulsory

Well done, OP.

A Fallon Fox documentary?

A documentary about pioneers of the LBTQ+ community but they name checked him.

Well done OP - I had to push back a few years ago when my work had invited Kellie Maloney to speak as a Pride representative. Maloney had famously blamed his history of domestic violence on his gender confusion.

I was so worried about raising the issue but the feedback was genuinely positive and they even told me they'd fed back their disappointment with the lack of vetting to the booking company. I think so often its a lack of research and, apart from the dyed in the wool activists, most people are just trying to "be kind" but haven't really thought about it.

Kellie fucking Maloney. Jesus.