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Apparently there has only been one single complaint to English Councils about single sex spaces in 2025

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 03/06/2026 11:41

https://translucent.org.uk/trans-women-and-single-sex-spaces-2026-uk-council-foi-report/

I mean, I wrote about six just on my own so....

How many complaints were actually made I wonder? How have they gone missing?

I know for sure several of my complaints were never documented in official channels , just quietly killed. But I cannot of been the only complainant in England surely?

Hilarious Reddit thread link about this if you want https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1tvioe0/trans_women_and_singlesex_spaces_2026_uk_council/

Trans Women and Single-Sex Spaces: 2026 UK Council FOI Report

Trans Women and Single-Sex Spaces: 2026 UK Council FOI Report

Trans Women and Single-Sex Spaces: 2026 UK Council FOI Report : proving yet again there are no issues trans women using single sex spaces.

https://translucent.org.uk/trans-women-and-single-sex-spaces-2026-uk-council-foi-report/

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 04/06/2026 20:29

kwikfitt · 04/06/2026 19:20

I'm not pissed off, Im comparing you saying mum and baby groups (which are put on by the council, its where babies are weighed, where new parents come and talk) are not to be safe spaces so that men can get involved

To complaints about toilets

Only one of those affects women more and it isnt toilets 🤷‍♀️

Good god take a good look at yourself. Im
sorry that whatever happened to you, happened. I was just trying to survive parenting and I sure as hell never went to anything like what you’re talking about.

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kwikfitt · 04/06/2026 20:47

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 04/06/2026 20:29

Good god take a good look at yourself. Im
sorry that whatever happened to you, happened. I was just trying to survive parenting and I sure as hell never went to anything like what you’re talking about.

From protecting women to shaming them for disagreeing with you

🤷‍♀️

PercyPigsAreOverRated · 04/06/2026 21:34

kwikfitt · 04/06/2026 20:21

I mean both!

Spaces for mums to talk about motherhood have gone and now its inclusive for everyone

But to give a more extreme example in relation to some more extreme examples re toilets, I talked about the experience of birth

And tbh, at mum and baby/toddler groups, women talk about women's things - only they cant get too into depth due to the men being there, which is just something thats been lost for us

Thats a womens space that concerns me more really, than public toilets

I never saw either the baby weighing clinic or toddler groups as women's spaces in all honesty. Both of them were about the children. Either their health, or to get them out of the house. Of course I chatted to other parents, one of my closest friends is a mum I met at toddler group nearly 20 years ago.

But they weren't women's spaces.

The breastfeeding support group OTOH was.

bittertwisted · 04/06/2026 21:40

kwikfitt · 04/06/2026 20:21

I mean both!

Spaces for mums to talk about motherhood have gone and now its inclusive for everyone

But to give a more extreme example in relation to some more extreme examples re toilets, I talked about the experience of birth

And tbh, at mum and baby/toddler groups, women talk about women's things - only they cant get too into depth due to the men being there, which is just something thats been lost for us

Thats a womens space that concerns me more really, than public toilets

do you genuinely think men shouldn’t take their babies to get weighed??
this is absolutely ridiculous

bittertwisted · 04/06/2026 21:44

my youngest is 19
’clinic’ As it was called was never ever a woman only space, and never once did I think it was. You went to talk about your baby. What do you really think a man is going to do. Honestly? This really isn’t healthy

PriOn1 · 04/06/2026 21:49

Maybe the other 19,000 complaints accidentally fell behind a table and were never found again, like so many of the responses to the original Hampstead Ponds consultation?

Apologies for not reading the thread, but it’s almost bedtime….

LazyFoxy · 04/06/2026 22:01

It doesn't matter kwikfitt, if toilets don't worry or concern you. You are not the arbiter of which single sex spaces are more important; there is no sliding-scale to them. All single sex spaces that are designated for women are equally important.
You cannot consent for other women or give their rights away.
Privacy, dignity and safety.

And of course TW can use the mens' spaces because they are men.
And will almost certainly be fine

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 04/06/2026 22:06

kwikfitt · 04/06/2026 20:47

From protecting women to shaming them for disagreeing with you

🤷‍♀️

Christ on a bike.

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Keeptoiletssafe · 04/06/2026 22:11

I don’t know how many people fall ill and rush to enter a baby clinic but I do know ill people rush to the toilet. There are so many things that go on in the toilet space and provision needs to be kept as a single sex environment as much as possible, for health and safety. Again, it’s such a vulnerable space it’s got its own section in the Sexual Offences Act.

The two spaces are not comparable.

There were two recent absolutely horrendous cases of male nursery workers abusing babies. It wasn’t in a baby clinic.

kwikfitt · 04/06/2026 22:18

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 04/06/2026 22:06

Christ on a bike.

Oh dear

They were called mum and baby groups when I was young, and they were for new mums and their babies/young children

Not all women breastfeed i'm afraid, but all people who give birth are women

Now mum and baby groups are 'inclusive' for men to join.

Similar to mumsnet - where I have to speak to men who spend their time on a website originally aimed at women - but has now been made more 'inclusive'

I dont think a transwoman using the cubicle next to me in the tesco impacts me at all - men in places where women should be able to relax, does impact me.

I'll leave it there as i dont need men 💐 telling me how i should feel about toilets, when theyre only too happy to join mumsnet and join new mothers at groups which used to be just for women.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 05/06/2026 09:15

kwikfitt · 04/06/2026 22:18

Oh dear

They were called mum and baby groups when I was young, and they were for new mums and their babies/young children

Not all women breastfeed i'm afraid, but all people who give birth are women

Now mum and baby groups are 'inclusive' for men to join.

Similar to mumsnet - where I have to speak to men who spend their time on a website originally aimed at women - but has now been made more 'inclusive'

I dont think a transwoman using the cubicle next to me in the tesco impacts me at all - men in places where women should be able to relax, does impact me.

I'll leave it there as i dont need men 💐 telling me how i should feel about toilets, when theyre only too happy to join mumsnet and join new mothers at groups which used to be just for women.

Edited

You don't see the direct and obvious double think in this sentence? Like completely?

"I dont think a transwoman using the cubicle next to me in the tesco impacts me at all - men in places where women should be able to relax, does impact me."

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Gotobedbyday · 05/06/2026 11:30

"I dont think a transwoman using the cubicle next to me in the tesco impacts me at all

And the two young girls assaulted by Katie Dolatowski?

Gotobedbyday · 05/06/2026 12:11

Baby clinics where I am weren’t about chat, they were basically a walk in clinic with the HV to have your baby checked and raise concerns. Anyone responsible for a baby could take their baby along - including fathers, grandparents, foster carers. Once you had spoken with the HV and had your baby weighed you left. Sometimes there was a wait, sometimes not.

However it would be proportional and legitimate to have mother and baby groups where only women could attend. Women in many immigrant communities may not be able to attend mixed sex groups and not understand how to access help, and women often experience domestic abuse for the first time in pregnancy. Mother and baby groups run by HV are a public health intervention and must be run in a way that is most effective. For similar reasons I know HV and social work run teen mothers groups and young dads groups.

slug · 05/06/2026 12:16

Oh dear. What is it about the end of exams that brings out the baby edgelords so confident in their “logic” and so incapable of realising just how ignorant and lacking in life experience they are. Still, the attempts at shaming women are nothing if not unintentionally hilarious.

DH was a SAHD and can sympathise with the weird liminal space fathers can inhabit. He would comment that when he took DD to playgrounds he would get one of 2 reactions. Either excessive approval for managing basic parenting tasks or “pervert”. At the rare toddler and parent group he attended he would find himself, because his profession is medical adjacent, being included in some conversations that made him uncomfortable. He made a LOT of tea in those meetings just to avoid it. In the end he discovered that a lot of pubs have play equipment in their gardens. That, apparently, is where many of the fathers hang out.

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