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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

House of Commons this afternoon. Ministerial statement on new code of practice

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impossibletoday · 01/06/2026 18:37

From c 16.41

https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/6cf14ecc-c54b-4536-9f93-66c8e8f6334e

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https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/6cf14ecc-c54b-4536-9f93-66c8e8f6334e

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impossibletoday · 01/06/2026 18:40

Finished about 17.51

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impossibletoday · 01/06/2026 18:44

Mims Davis
Sarah Owens
Marie Goldman
Nadia Whittome
Stella Creasy
Christine Jardine
Leyland Moran
Alex Sopel
to name but a few

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impossibletoday · 01/06/2026 18:45

FWS...
'If you want to get really angry....'

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OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 01/06/2026 19:31

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AlexandraLeaving · 01/06/2026 19:39

bloody hell.

HipTightOnions · 01/06/2026 19:46

I only saw a bit of the statement which I interpreted as “The code of practice says (i) sex means sex, but also (ii) we should all be kind and turn a blind eye”.

Couldn’t bear to watch any more.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 01/06/2026 19:51

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IwantToRetire · 01/06/2026 19:59

This is the text (uncorrected?) for those who want to mull it over.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2026-06-01/debates/CE610C68-7093-454F-B897-AF008EE7E7A0/EqualityAct2010CodeOfPractice

And think Mims Davies made good points about delay but of course no real response.

IwantToRetire · 01/06/2026 20:00

Only a Labour Chair of WEC could make it not be about women but about poor, misused trans people!

Madam Deputy Speaker
I call the Chair of the Women and Equalities Committee.

Sarah Owen (Luton North) (Lab)
I really wish that there was a better beginning to Pride Month than what we are discussing. Although the code is marginally different from its draft, it is still a trans-exclusionary one at its core, and unfortunately not inclusive. Moves like this from the EHRC and the Government have seen the UK slip from third in 2019 to 22nd in the European rankings for LGBT+ people to live and feel safe. Does the Minister share my concern that the new code of practice will only further the UK’s now hostile environment for trans people and not calm it? How will she act to stop the erosion of LGBT+ rights in this country?

Keeptoiletssafe · 01/06/2026 21:39

‘In the majority of cases, we are talking about changing signs on existing facilities or updating them so they may be fully enclosed.’

Thereby reducing health and safety for anyone at their most vulnerable.

BigElderflower · 01/06/2026 22:10

The funny thing is - no Green MPs spoke.

One is off sick, two are hardline Muslims, but two - including the sainted Hannah - should have been available.

Trans Redditors are already saying they're sure they had really good reasons for not being there. But the rumblings have started 😆

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 01/06/2026 22:20

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toyl9876 · 01/06/2026 23:00

It seems like they are not expecting much to change compared to before the supreme court judgement. Lots of mentions of not expecting the public to challenge each other and to use common sense. People who weren’t challenged before will just continue, but someone obviously taking the piss can now be removed and challenged. That seems like an improvement

KnottyAuty · 01/06/2026 23:51

toyl9876 · 01/06/2026 23:00

It seems like they are not expecting much to change compared to before the supreme court judgement. Lots of mentions of not expecting the public to challenge each other and to use common sense. People who weren’t challenged before will just continue, but someone obviously taking the piss can now be removed and challenged. That seems like an improvement

I’ll listen tomorrow but if they don’t expect much to change i think they’re in for a shock. Women still won’t directly challenge men in the ladies but there will be a slew of complaints, tribunals and court claims…. And increasingly common out of court settlements… How much public money will they be prepared to sign off to pay all the claims before they have to go kicking and screaming with 4th spaces?

Pingponghavoc · 02/06/2026 00:20

HipTightOnions · 01/06/2026 19:46

I only saw a bit of the statement which I interpreted as “The code of practice says (i) sex means sex, but also (ii) we should all be kind and turn a blind eye”.

Couldn’t bear to watch any more.

Thats my interpretation of what the government want to happen.

Basically, they don't expect these men to comply and don't expect women to mention it.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/06/2026 00:27

Pingponghavoc · 02/06/2026 00:20

Thats my interpretation of what the government want to happen.

Basically, they don't expect these men to comply and don't expect women to mention it.

They’ve got another think coming, haven’t they.

BridasShieldWall · 02/06/2026 07:14

https://x.com/JournalismSEEN/status/2061644930234150992

Hope this link works but it’s a clip of Jonathan Hinder on Newsnignt last night. I listened live and couldn’t quite believe it. It’s worth a listen as he berates the Labour Party of ignoring working people and indulging middle class hobby horses. He is pushed by Victoria Derbyshire who demands an example and refers to what happens in parliament today as dozens of Labour MPs standing up in parliament saying that they didn’t like the law that prevents men having access to women’s changing rooms.

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Totally fascinating clip. The 👀 that @Jonathan_Hinder gives Derbyshire, as she actively works to get him to describe ‘trans rights’ as a ‘middle class hobby horse’ - which would be quite a gotcha - followed by her disconcerted silence when he just sa...

https://x.com/JournalismSEEN/status/2061644930234150992

ItsCoolForCats · 02/06/2026 07:25

BridasShieldWall · 02/06/2026 07:14

https://x.com/JournalismSEEN/status/2061644930234150992

Hope this link works but it’s a clip of Jonathan Hinder on Newsnignt last night. I listened live and couldn’t quite believe it. It’s worth a listen as he berates the Labour Party of ignoring working people and indulging middle class hobby horses. He is pushed by Victoria Derbyshire who demands an example and refers to what happens in parliament today as dozens of Labour MPs standing up in parliament saying that they didn’t like the law that prevents men having access to women’s changing rooms.

Thank you. Jonathan Hinder is great. He doesn't dance around the issue but calls it for what it is.

BridasShieldWall · 02/06/2026 07:38

ItsCoolForCats · 02/06/2026 07:25

Thank you. Jonathan Hinder is great. He doesn't dance around the issue but calls it for what it is.

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It’s the first time I’ve seen him but he was really good across the discussion on the impact of Mandelson. He is direct and it’s so refreshing and practical.

334bu · 02/06/2026 08:07

Thank you for this clip.

fromorbit · 02/06/2026 09:24

House of Lords on FWS in debate yesterday interesting contrast. Lib Dem peer leading the pro women side:
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Lords/2026-06-01/debates/7BAE213A-9D03-41A3-BF3D-1C762FD4BEBF/ForWomenScotlandLtdVScottishMinisters

PrettyDamnCosmic · 02/06/2026 09:35

BigElderflower · 01/06/2026 22:10

The funny thing is - no Green MPs spoke.

One is off sick, two are hardline Muslims, but two - including the sainted Hannah - should have been available.

Trans Redditors are already saying they're sure they had really good reasons for not being there. But the rumblings have started 😆

The funny thing is - no Green MPs spoke.
One is off sick, two are hardline Muslims, but two - including the sainted Hannah - should have been available.

Carla Denyer is off sick which leaves Ellie Chowns, Sian Berry, Adrian Ramsay & of course Hannah Spencer. I wasn't aware that any of these MPs was a Muslim let alone a hardline Muslim.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 02/06/2026 09:36

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BigElderflower · 02/06/2026 09:55

PrettyDamnCosmic · 02/06/2026 09:35

The funny thing is - no Green MPs spoke.
One is off sick, two are hardline Muslims, but two - including the sainted Hannah - should have been available.

Carla Denyer is off sick which leaves Ellie Chowns, Sian Berry, Adrian Ramsay & of course Hannah Spencer. I wasn't aware that any of these MPs was a Muslim let alone a hardline Muslim.

I guess I was getting mixed up with the leadership.

But in that case, it's even curiouser that no Green MP spoke!

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