Be Kind 2.0 and the "Persuasive TRA"

[BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth]

This is a spinoff from another thread so as not to derail the original.

I thought it would be helpful to have a separate thread to discuss, and document, a phenomenon I have been seeing more regularly recently: the Persuasive TRA.

It occurred to me, after a few posters noted that the recent U-turns by a couple of politicians, and the wheedling TRA responses to the EHRC guidance, were akin to an abuser changing tactics and also asking us to "help" them in the new single-sex regime, that the whole thing is starting to pan out exactly as an abusive relationship often does. When is the most dangerous time for a woman in an abusive relationship? Normally, when she is leaving.

Well, women are leaving the abusive relationship with non-reality that men forced upon us some 15 years ago, and I would argue that now might be our most dangerous/difficult moment.

This is what I posted on the other thread:

I'm starting to see a bit more of what I am calling (in my own head) "Persuasive TRA." Now that they have lost everything that they bullied women for, some activists seem to be changing tack. Women must now fix the situation that TRAs have found themselves in. It seems to pivot on a sort of Be Kind 2.0.

I think women who have been in the game long enough will see through it, but we should be watchful. Stonewall is pivoting, activists are pivoting, and they will be preying on women's socialized kindness: watch for the destination and be on your guard.

I have read several posters on different threads appealing to everyone (women) to help calm trans-identified people's (men's) fears about what this new reality will look like, what it will mean for them (the men) now that they can't just do whatever they want anymore. What about the men's toilets? Are they safe? Where will they go? (Who will fix this problem?)

Well, apparently it is a problem that women can fix, if they just take a moment to think about it. Trans-identified men will be unsafe in the men's, so women need to join the fight to give these men something of their own.

Notice the pivot? The pleading? If you just... If you weren't so.... It can be different if you just... Sound familiar? To any woman who is in, or has escaped from, an abusive relationship, this will be all too familiar.

This is Be Kind 2.0. It's very similar to the original, except that instead of being forced to enjoy our abuse, we are being asked to fix it. And the "Persuasive TRAs" seem to be mobilizing, from what I have seen.

It won't start in the middle (with the women); it will start at the top (infiltrating government, think tanks, charities, etc.) and the bottom (schools). But they will use women to get this moving. Why not? It worked so well last time. And I believe that organizations like Stonewall will be leading the charge: the campaign can be something like Safe Spaces for Trans+ : All of Us Together.

If anyone else has seen this in action, it might be useful to keep a record of it here.

I imagine this thread will eventually be taken over by activists, but, until then, I would be interested in your thoughts.

I think JKR's comment that "It's perfectly acceptable for a grown man in a bikini" says it all

More beautiful examples today on the “sex and gender discussions” thread.

Is that the 'but you're only talking about sex and gender issues, here...on the sex and gender board!!' arse?

Denton's playbook

As we start to see things shift, once it sinks in that the law and guidance about services actually supports single-sex spaces, women's rights to services and spaces of their own, and our right to say "no," I thought it would be useful to have this close at hand:

James Kirkup's Spectator article about Denton's playbook, from Dec 2019:

(with thanks to @Ereshkigalangcleg for reposting the article on another thread)

The document that reveals the remarkable tactics of trans lobbyists | The Spectator

Starting with the final paragraph from his article:

I’m going to conclude with an observation I’ve made here before, but which I think bears repeating in the context of that report and the things it might tell people about other aspects of the trans issue: no policy made in the shadows can survive in sunlight.

I know many of you will already be familiar with Denton's, but I don't recall ever having read this article before. And many of you will still be unaware of the deliberate tactics employed to get gender ideology embedded into our societies. It's an easy read and points out the tactics clearly.

There will be activists right now working behind the scenes, "in the shadows," to salvage something of what they have built, in order to shift to something new while we are busy restructuring society along lines of reality. This is why we watch Stonewall and their partners, why we need to keep an eye on Compass (links to Andy Burnham through Neal Lawson (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/06/22/whos-who-in-andy-burnhams-team/

(https://www.compassonline.org.uk/)
and why what has happened at Amnesty UK is so important.

Let's bear in mind that Denton's playbook could have been used for any number of desired goals, and it could be used again.

Yep @Waitwhat23

Some AI classics on other threads today. Wonder if AI is learning how to deliberately manipulate people.

And they always say they're not using AI. It's too hot, and there posts are soooo boring, round and round we go. It's actually starting to look like desperation on their part. GOOD. Let the desperation begin.

"their posts" - obviously. It's too hot. 😎

I know 🔥