I'm really interested to see what response this thread will get

[WallaceinAnderland]

It's just been posted on Reddit and I'm interested to see the views of posters on that forum:

Hi everyone, an older XY woman here (I'm approaching 40). Back in February I heard a voice in my head, it was a little girl's voice and it promised happiness and 'real feeling'. Once I realised that it was my 'feeling voice' there was an explosion of emotion which came with symptoms of CPTSD (or masked autism?) eg light/music/taste sensitivity etc. I was also able to see people in an emotional light without the need for alcohol, which I now have no need for as I used it primarily to feel emotions. As part of the dialogue with this voice, I thought I had sorted out my identity as the voice readily said that I was 'a boy'. (The symptoms have settled down, now.)
Recently, after 3 months of therapy and prompted by my therapist asking after the gender of my 'inner parent', I asked my feeling voice what I meant by 'boy' and I said 'not mum'. I asked it what I looked like, and was shocked to find that I looked like a woman. I don't physically look like my mum, being an XY woman, but my emotional body is that of her gender. With the techniques from therapy, combined with a heady dose of my own, my emotions are now settled and I can eat and sleep and function again... so I'm preparing to meet the practical challenges of being an XY woman.
So, firstly, hey! I guess you're my folk, now :) The only stuff I know about trans people is what I learned during suppression, so I don't know much at all, really, and I have no trans friends or any friends I'm really close enough to to talk about trans stuff in detail, readily. Oh, also, I tend towards the term XY-woman. Is that okay?
Secondly, I have seen some posts about suppressed emotion on here pre-realisation and about emotional release. Given what happened to me, I would be very interested to hear about any similar instances of suppressed emotion and emotional release. Thanks for reading.

Most working class people don't have the money to pay their bills these days let alone for a therapist. And therapy via NHS is basically non-existent even for children via CAMHS (about a 5 year waiting list). What planet are you on?

@WallaceinAnderland , it might just be me, but… I think the op doesn’t sufficiently clarify that this IS NOT YOU!

I read it and assumed you were posting on both Reddit and here.

It took a second glance, when a PP pointed out you’re a regular, to realise you were quoting someone else.

If it’s a discussion about a post on Reddit, that’s very different from posting here for advice and support which is how I misread the post initially.

I had one at 43, since when has approaching 40 been “older”? I’m an ancient crone by that standard. Didn’t read the rest of it

Reddit users pull and discuss threads from here. What is the difference?

A planet where I am a middle aged working class woman who was recently was referred for talking therapy on the NHS and got an appointment within a month. My son is 15 so no longer demands all my time and my partner and I split the cooking/housework so I have some leisure time outside work if I wanted to spend that naval gazing (which I don't, but I could). We're certainly not well off but we have two incomes so we're not on the breadline. This is not atypical for a working class family at all. You're living in stereotype land if you think all working class women are clocking in 12 hour days at the factory then coming home to their 17 kids. Some working class middle aged women don't even have kids.

older XY woman here - no such thing 😕

I saw XY woman and I know there's no such thing so I gave up reading.

Well, given Reddit ditched any pro- women’s rights sub-Reddits, and delete or ban feminist posters of the wrong kind …

Yes, da fuq is an XY woman?

This. It sounds nuts

Not an attempt to derail, but the far more interesting thread is the one where a bunch of TIFs are complaining that TIMs just ignore them, mistreat them or use them as cannon fodder in the 'bathroom' wars. Turns out that misogyny attaches to sex, not gender. Who knew?

Yes. Astonishing that it’s still the men who dominate, isn’t it?

Back to the drawing board for Queer theory.

Sorry for the confusion, no it's not my post.

I agree with PP upthread. The guy is hearing voices & having a psychotic episode.

Seems a bit unkind to have a cross-forum discussion of the words of a seemingly rather vulnerable man, who is in therapy and therefore probably struggling with his mental health. I'd leave him be.

No, it’s the ramblings of a man who is trying - and failing badly - to embroil others into his fetish.

The post now has two responses, both of them gentle but skeptical. One explains why the term "XY women" isn't usually used. The other openly cautions about taking "inner voices" too seriously.

Don't think you're going to see the rush of unquestioning affirmation you were hoping for, OP.

I wasn't hoping for anything @Zoonosis I was interested to see if this was a general 'inner gender' feeling that other trans people would also experience and identify with and therefore affirm or whether they would signpost towards professional help. Or neither.

I thought that responses might be enlightening but if you say the algorithms will drop it down then maybe that's it and it won't get much response.

It's not batshit.

I completely agree that the vast majority of women, even those who are in therapy, are busy as fuck with careers or kids and wouldn't be sitting about talking to the voices in their heads.
There will be a few, but they are unfortunately mentally ill & hopefully receiving help.

'Cook stove' suggests you're not a woman in the UK. Maybe it's a eutopia of navel gazing females where you are, but i don't know a single woman around me who has time for this BS. Figuratively or literally.

I don't think it is usual to decide you are trans because an "inner voice" told you, and I think it would have been fairly easy for you to find that out, especially if you're spending a lot of time stalking transgender forums.

Well, you don't seem to be learning much from stalking a feminist forum.

I am indeed in the UK and I maintain it is a silly stereotype to say that women never naval gaze. And anyone who is actually "sitting around talking to the voices in their heads" is mentally ill, and that can afflict men or women of any class or age.

That's a bit of a snidey comment. What exactly do you think I should be learning that I'm not?

Nothing about his post or his responses has any sexual element.