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MarieDeGournay · 23/05/2026 11:41

Eejit.

The demonisation of trans people by politicians and large parts of the media is echoing the same homophobic rhetoric of the 1980s and 90s. We have made such progress since these dark days and we must not go backwards.

I hear that a lot here in Ireland, where any critique of gender ideology is immediately labelled as the same as homophobia, 'going back to the dark days' etc etc etc.

There's a clear difference between the past when lesbian and gay people were denied human rights, and were subjected to discrimination and even 'literal violence', and today's transpeople who already have the same human rights as everyone else and are not in the front line of 'literal violence'.

Unfortunately it works: people who haven't given much thought to the subject think: Phobia is bad. We must not be phobic. We stopped being phobic in 2015. Let's just be kind to those poor oppressed trans people..'
So not giving trans people everything they demand is 'demonisation' and going backwards to the dark days.

It's clever, I'll grant them that; it's putting into effect one of the strategies set out in the Denton's Document:

  • Piggybacking on other causes: Attach trans rights to broader equality, diversity, or anti-discrimination initiatives to normalise them.
  • Strategic framing: Use language that resonates positively (e.g., “equality,” “human rights”) and avoid terms that may provoke opposition.
Analysis of the Dentons Document: A How to Manual - Women Speak Tasmania the full document: iglyo_v3-1.pdf

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ChaToilLeam · 23/05/2026 11:42

She is a complete and utter obnoxious twit. I despair for Scotland.

fantam · 23/05/2026 11:47

Womens' rights are human rights too. That's what I say to any nutjob who starts moaning about trans rights. I usually flounce off in a huff after saying it, with a red face and my dander up, because I can't face any counter arguments anymore. I've heard all the bullshit by now.

lcakethereforeIam · 23/05/2026 12:12

Did Personpeeps get voted back in then?

teawamutu · 23/05/2026 12:21

lcakethereforeIam · 23/05/2026 12:12

Did Personpeeps get voted back in then?

I don't think anyone (in terms of us plebs) has ever actually voted her in, have they? She's a list MSP IIRC so just has to win favour with Green leadership.

nicepotoftea · 23/05/2026 12:41

Well done to Scottish Express for explaining the law correctly in the headline.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/05/2026 12:44

Great headline.
Suspect we're going to see more of this as the hard of thinking politicians are exposed for their fuckwittery about single sex spaces.

lcakethereforeIam · 23/05/2026 12:46

teawamutu · 23/05/2026 12:21

I don't think anyone (in terms of us plebs) has ever actually voted her in, have they? She's a list MSP IIRC so just has to win favour with Green leadership.

I just wrote 'voted' as shorthand. I thought she'd dropped down the list so was unlikely to win another term. However, there are so many Green MSPs or wannabees i might have misremembered and mixed her up with some other lunatic.

MintBird · 23/05/2026 13:11

Meanwhile Reform UK St Helens councillor, Emma Beck has been fined £180 for assault after beating a woman of 60.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8p4xgn0mvo

This board is obsessed with the Greens but turn a blind eye to the neo-Nazi, misogynist and violent thugs of the Reform.

Emma Beck, 47, who has blonde hair, is wearing a turquoise top under a grey blazer, smiles at the camera in a gymnasium. She has a turquoise and white Reform UK party rosette pinned to her lapel.

Reform St Helens councillor assaulted woman while working pub doors

The Labour Party has said it is "deeply concerned" by Reform's vetting procedures.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8p4xgn0mvo

Sskka · 23/05/2026 13:14

Can help noticing there are no posts about today’s Scottish Cup Final on this Maggie Chapman thread either.

Justme56 · 23/05/2026 13:14

Didn’t she put in a complaint against a gay man who would have been above her on the list so he couldn’t run. Definitely something like that.

MintBird · 23/05/2026 13:17

Justme56 · 23/05/2026 13:14

Didn’t she put in a complaint against a gay man who would have been above her on the list so he couldn’t run. Definitely something like that.

That's quite an allegation. I hope you have proof otherwise it would be grounds for libel.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/05/2026 13:27

Justme56 · 23/05/2026 13:21

Green candidate replaced by rival who complained about him https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glrxrnlywo

Are you suggesting the BBC aren’t a valid news source?

😂😂
I'm sure minty will rush back to apologise

lcakethereforeIam · 23/05/2026 13:37

If we've got to cram everything into this thread, RIP Judith Chalmers and the Red Arrows can apparently only put seven aircraft into the air because of engine troubles and lack of spares.

TheyAreLovelyLovelyPeople · 23/05/2026 13:38

Fair play that is a cracking headline.

Poor Maggie PersonPerson, what a teeth-gnasher. Moo ha ha.

TheyAreLovelyLovelyPeople · 23/05/2026 13:40

Oh yes can we cram in the addition of Badger Badger Badger to the BFI archives. Why are you terrible wimmim not talking about that, ey ey ey?

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 23/05/2026 13:41

We just about got to double-digits posts before a whataboutterer turned up.

SirChenjins · 23/05/2026 13:42

Chapman is a useful societal barometer - if a claim or viewpoint comes out of her mouth then it can be discredited and dismissed immediately and filed under 'shite'.

The fact the she's up in arms about this shows very clearly that it's a positive step forward for women.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 23/05/2026 13:42

TheyAreLovelyLovelyPeople · 23/05/2026 13:40

Oh yes can we cram in the addition of Badger Badger Badger to the BFI archives. Why are you terrible wimmim not talking about that, ey ey ey?

That music video is a true classic.

lcakethereforeIam · 23/05/2026 13:46

Justme56 · 23/05/2026 13:21

Green candidate replaced by rival who complained about him https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glrxrnlywo

Are you suggesting the BBC aren’t a valid news source?

I have say that's a nice(?) a bit of backstabbing, political shenaniganery as i've ever read about. I hope he joins the queue and sues.

borntobequiet · 23/05/2026 13:48

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 23/05/2026 13:42

That music video is a true classic.

And makes more sense than La Chapman (surely Le Chapman for consistency?)

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 23/05/2026 13:49

MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/05/2026 13:27

😂😂
I'm sure minty will rush back to apologise

Minty has probably gone back to bed. At the latest, it's 8.47am in the US, and it's Memorial Day weekend. Also, no school next week for most in the UK.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 23/05/2026 13:57

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 23/05/2026 13:52

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/25991018.leader-greens-lgbtq-wing-quits-maggie-chapman-complaint/

The cancellers are cancelled.

Get your bingo dabbers out for the Rainbow Greens ex-leader Emma Cuthbertson's resignation statement. It's also not his first rodeo flouncing out of a party: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18287336.transgender-snp-activist-fellow-ally-quit-party-toxic-gra-row/

Can I say "trans entryism"?

Edited

What a bloody playground mess of:

Nyah, nyah, you're a loser!
I know you are, but what am I?