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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

AidaP is scraping Mumsnet threads, and grading them

684 replies

BambooLampshade · 28/04/2026 21:15

Honestly, this man is obsessed. He has now created a program to scrape and grade Mumsnet threads from this board.

What is this?

Oh yes, I have downloaded most of mumsnet and we will be doing embeddings of the content to try to understand how does the rot and hate builds and spreads.

I never had so much hate and delusion on my hard drive before 😅

https://bsky.app/profile/aidap.bsky.social/post/3mkklbtpgbs2s

Aida (@aidap.bsky.social)

What is this? Oh yes, I have downloaded most of mumsnet and we will be doing embeddings of the content to try to understand how does the rot and hate builds and spreads. I never had so much hate and delusion on my hard drive before 😅

https://bsky.app/profile/aidap.bsky.social/post/3mkklbtpgbs2s

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HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 09:35

Heggettypeg · 28/04/2026 21:29

Is this actually legal, I wonder?

It's completely legal.

Questionable, perhaps, but not illegal.

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 09:36

murasaki · 28/04/2026 23:06

You'd think his IP address could be banned.

Trivially easy to bypass, I'm afraid.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 29/04/2026 09:37

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 09:35

It's completely legal.

Questionable, perhaps, but not illegal.

Says the man with a very questionable grasp on reality.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 29/04/2026 09:39

Boiledbeetle · 28/04/2026 23:24

Scrape this Aida:

https://www.mumsnet.com/i/terms-of-use

1. Intellectual property: restrictions on use, mining and scraping
a. This Website and its contents, including all intellectual property rights, are owned or licensed to Mumsnet, all rights reserved. Reproduction of all or any part of the Website in any form is prohibited. Those works are protected by copyright laws and treaties around the world.

b. ["Mumsnet"] and ["Gransnet"] are [UK registered] trade marks of Mumsnet. You are not permitted to use them without our approval, unless they are part of material you are using as permitted under this clause.

c. No part of the Website may be distributed, scraped or copied for any purpose without express approval and a licence to do so from us or our licensors. If you are interested in copying, licensing or using Mumsnet content for any purpose, then contact us at [email protected].

d. If you print off, copy, download, use, share or repost any part of our Website in breach of these terms, your right to use our Website will cease immediately and you must, at our option, return or destroy any copies of the materials you have made (except that you are permitted to print off a copy of these terms).

e. Use of automated systems and AI-related activities

(1) Prohibited uses
You shall not conduct, facilitate, authorise or permit any text or data mining, web scraping, or automated data extraction from the Website for the purpose of:
developing, training, fine-tuning or validating artificial intelligence or machine learning systems; or
creating datasets, models, or derivative databases that replicate or compete with the Website’s content.

This includes the use of any robot, bot, spider, scraper or other automated means to systematically access, collect, copy or reproduce substantial portions of the Website.

(2) Permitted indexing and referencing
Notwithstanding the above, standard search engine indexing and retrieval practices are permitted, including:
crawling for the purpose of indexing publicly accessible content;
displaying links to the Website;
showing limited excerpts or snippets of content; and
referencing or citing the Website as a source in search or AI-generated responses,

provided that such use:
does not reproduce substantial portions of content;
does not substitute for accessing the Website directly; and
complies with applicable industry standards (including robots.txt where implemented).

(3) No implied licence for training
For the avoidance of doubt, nothing in this clause grants permission to use the Website’s content for training or improving AI systems.

f. The provisions in this clause should be treated as an express reservation of our rights in this regard, including for the purposes of Article 4(3) of the Digital Copyright Directive ((EU) 2019/790).

g. This clause will not apply insofar as (but only to the extent that) we are unable to exclude or limit text or data mining or web scraping activity by contract under the laws which are applicable to us.

I attach this for those who suggest this scraping is completely legal.

BusyAzureTraybake · 29/04/2026 09:53

Beowulfa · 29/04/2026 08:46

To be fair, I had a hand-drawn table rating the ponies at my local riding stables on various criteria. When I was 11.

I once graded all the toilets on a trip round Europe. Am currently grading all the full English breakfasts within a 20 mile radius of home.

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 09:53

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 29/04/2026 09:37

Says the man with a very questionable grasp on reality.

I am a transwoman and a woman, not a man.

None of which changes the statement I made on this thread. You are attempting to derail with an ad hominem attack because, well, that's all you and your sort have, really.

Try to stay on topic, hmmm? There's a pet.

Helleofabore · 29/04/2026 09:53

i would like to think that GDPR would come into play here. This would be an illegal use of data.

BusyAzureTraybake · 29/04/2026 09:55

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HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 09:55

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 29/04/2026 09:39

I attach this for those who suggest this scraping is completely legal.

Those are simply MN's Ts and Cs.

I agree, AidaP shouldn't be doing it, but there's no actual law I'm aware of that makes scraping publicly available (not behind a login) information from a public website illegal.

MN, or any website for that matter, can write what they like in their policies; it doesn't mean it has any weight in law.

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 09:57

Helleofabore · 29/04/2026 09:53

i would like to think that GDPR would come into play here. This would be an illegal use of data.

Would it though? I'm not so sure.

When we make posts on an open, public forum - such as we're doing now - there's a tacit acceptance that information is public; I'm not sure GDPR - or any regulation - can be brought in here.

My biggest question about AidaP's scraping is why. I mean, what is the point?

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 29/04/2026 09:57

I am a transwoman and a woman, not a man

Eh? Forgive my ignorance, but if you're a transwoman, you're a man.

BIWI · 29/04/2026 09:58

No @HazelLemur.

You are a man.

At best, you are a transwoman. But you are not a woman.

(I know this has been said a million times already, but it has to be repeated until you finally understand that you will never be able to change your sex, no matter how much surgery you have or drugs you take.)

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 09:59

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 29/04/2026 09:57

I am a transwoman and a woman, not a man

Eh? Forgive my ignorance, but if you're a transwoman, you're a man.

That's quite alright; your ignorance is forgivable. But try to stay on the topic of the thread as I have done in previous posts, hmmm?
If you want to mindlessly attack me, please do so in another thread or in my DMs.
Thanks 😊

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 29/04/2026 10:01

This reply has been deleted

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 29/04/2026 10:03

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 09:59

That's quite alright; your ignorance is forgivable. But try to stay on the topic of the thread as I have done in previous posts, hmmm?
If you want to mindlessly attack me, please do so in another thread or in my DMs.
Thanks 😊

Stating a fact isn't regarded as a "mindless attack", mate.
HTH

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 10:04

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 09:57

Would it though? I'm not so sure.

When we make posts on an open, public forum - such as we're doing now - there's a tacit acceptance that information is public; I'm not sure GDPR - or any regulation - can be brought in here.

My biggest question about AidaP's scraping is why. I mean, what is the point?

Further to this, I've just taken an - admittedly quick - glance over GDPR and I can't see anything that could be reliably used to cause scrapers to Cease and Desist.

Again, though, the question is why he's/she's/they're engaged in this scraping. Is this some sort of TERF league-table being built? Seems like an awful lot of work for not very much result to me.

BusyAzureTraybake · 29/04/2026 10:04

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 09:59

That's quite alright; your ignorance is forgivable. But try to stay on the topic of the thread as I have done in previous posts, hmmm?
If you want to mindlessly attack me, please do so in another thread or in my DMs.
Thanks 😊

Typical bloke. Trying to control the conversation

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 29/04/2026 10:06

Again, though, the question is why he's/she's/they're engaged in this scraping

Oh dear @HazelLemur you sound very confused.

oldtiredcyclist · 29/04/2026 10:08

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 09:53

I am a transwoman and a woman, not a man.

None of which changes the statement I made on this thread. You are attempting to derail with an ad hominem attack because, well, that's all you and your sort have, really.

Try to stay on topic, hmmm? There's a pet.

I am afraid that you are wrong, very wrong. You are male and will always be male, you are not a woman.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 29/04/2026 10:08

Further to this, I've just taken an - admittedly quick - glance over GDPR and I can't see anything that could be reliably used to cause scrapers to Cease and Desist

Possibly someone with superior knowledge will be able to.

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 10:09

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 29/04/2026 10:06

Again, though, the question is why he's/she's/they're engaged in this scraping

Oh dear @HazelLemur you sound very confused.

Not in the least.

I don't know this AidaP and no idea how they identify. Which you know, obviously.

Do you have any opinions on the actual topic being discussed, perhaps in relation to the several points I've made, or are you content to just continue trying to derail the topic in attacking me?

If so, as I've already said, please do feel free to engage in your attacks over DMs; I welcome your frank views.

Thank you.

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 10:12

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 29/04/2026 10:08

Further to this, I've just taken an - admittedly quick - glance over GDPR and I can't see anything that could be reliably used to cause scrapers to Cease and Desist

Possibly someone with superior knowledge will be able to.

A fascinating insight. Given your self-presumed superiority, could you please find the section of GDPR legislation that covers internet scraping from public websites? Thank you 😊

BiologicalRobot · 29/04/2026 10:13

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 09:59

That's quite alright; your ignorance is forgivable. But try to stay on the topic of the thread as I have done in previous posts, hmmm?
If you want to mindlessly attack me, please do so in another thread or in my DMs.
Thanks 😊

Why the fuck would we want to discuss you being a man and not a woman in DMs?? That's a very "man" thing to suggest. And also a sure fire way to get a poster banned. We see you.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 29/04/2026 10:14

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 10:09

Not in the least.

I don't know this AidaP and no idea how they identify. Which you know, obviously.

Do you have any opinions on the actual topic being discussed, perhaps in relation to the several points I've made, or are you content to just continue trying to derail the topic in attacking me?

If so, as I've already said, please do feel free to engage in your attacks over DMs; I welcome your frank views.

Thank you.

Edited

Why would anyone DM you?
We can chat on here.
I've got nothing private to say to you.

BiologicalRobot · 29/04/2026 10:16

If so, as I've already said, please do feel free to engage in your attacks over DMs; I welcome your frank views.
Thank you.

This person is seeking ways to ban posters. DO NOT DM. It is a "special " tactic of theirs (general).

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