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Scope is punishing women for wrongthink - Whole choir cancelled from London Marathon because of personal GC views of one person

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singthing · 24/04/2026 16:18

Choir dropped from London Marathon over founder’s ‘gender-critical views’
Charity cancels singers who raise runners’ spirits owing to Janet Murray’s opposition to gender ideology

A choir has been dropped from the London Marathon over a member’s gender-critical views.

The Singing Striders are frequently booked to stand on the sidelines and raise the spirits of runners, and the group had been invited to support the upcoming marathon by Scope, a leading disability charity.

However, the amateur ensemble was dropped because a single member had been critical of gender ideology.

This is the view that gender is defined by self-identification, rather than biological sex, meaning that those born male can become women.

Janet Murray, the choir founder, was informed that her opposition to this worldview went against Scope’s “commitment to diversity and inclusion”.

Charity bosses also told her “we are concerned about your views because we don’t agree with your views”.

As a writer and journalist, Murray has publicly expressed concerns about the inclusion of biological males in women’s sports and organisations such as Girlguiding.

It is understood that the decision to cancel the choir, which was to perform for no fee, came after Scope received two anonymous complaints about these opinions.

The charity has since defended its stance as it is “committed to the equality and inclusion of trans and non-binary disabled people”.

Janet Murray, the writer
Murray says it is ironic that Scope should bring politics into a space that was simply about supporting charity runners Credit: Belinda Jiao
Ms Murray told The Telegraph: “When cancel culture finds its way into something as joyful as a choir singing for marathon runners, it’s a sobering reminder of how insidious it can be.

“My choir exists to lift people up, helping them through the hardest moments as they raise money for charity. I’ve run the London Marathon myself, and I know how much that support means.”

The writer said that while she did have gender-critical views, they did not enter into her work with the choir, adding: “I leave politics at home when I’m with the choir – and so does everyone else.

“Ironically, it’s Scope that’s brought politics into a space that was simply about supporting charity runners – effectively silencing a choir in the process.”

The cancellation came despite the Singing Striders performing for Scope at past marathons without incident.

The London Marathon has several “cheer points” along the route to boost the morale of runners, and Scope has two dedicated spaces this year, at Tower Hill and Woolwich

The London Marathon will take place on Sunday
The London Marathon will take place on Sunday Credit: Karwai Tang/WireImage
The Singing Striders were set to raise a chorus at the mile-three cheer point in Woolwich, performing from 8.30am to 1pm, with minor expenses for travel covered by Scope.

The choir had practised for months ahead of the marathon, and members were understood to be surprised and disappointed by the decision, and hopeful that an organisation might come forward to offer them a space at the event on Sunday.

Critics of gender ideology have been subjected to cancellation since the issue of transgender identities emerged into public consciousness, with figures such as Graham Linehan, the Father Ted co-writer, being an early victim of censoriousness.

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In 2024, the debate shifted again when the Cass review cautioned against rushing children into life-changing gender transitions, particularly with the use of potentially harmful puberty blockers.

Scope has defended its decision to cancel the marathon choir, stating that the move “reflects where we stand as an organisation and our commitment to our colleagues, volunteers and supporters”.

John McLachlan, Scope’s chief executive, said: “Concerns were raised to us about the views of the founder and director of Singing Striders, a choir who were due to volunteer to perform for us at the London Marathon. After consideration, we took the decision to not have their choir perform on our behalf.

“We understand and respect the right for people to hold different views about inclusion. At Scope, we are committed to the equality and inclusion of trans and non-binary disabled people. We have trans and non-binary colleagues, volunteers and supporters.

“Scope is committed to equality and inclusion. Our EDI policy sets out our commitment to be an inclusive employer and inclusive charity.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/24/choir-dropped-london-marathon-founder-gender-critical-views/
https://archive.ph/LXP0N

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/24/choir-dropped-london-marathon-founder-gender-critical-views

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SCOPEismisogynistic · 25/04/2026 18:53

SabbatWheel · 25/04/2026 17:44

I’ve just filled this in and it didn’t require any contact details at all. I gave them a shortened version of my first name and a surname initial.

Let’s get them flooded!

The form actually asks for pronouns.

Away you go you ideologues, what does that have to do with a disability. Not sure gender dysphoria is a mental health condition or a disability though….. 🤯

AlexaStopAlexaNo · 25/04/2026 18:55

SCOPEismisogynistic · 25/04/2026 18:53

The form actually asks for pronouns.

Away you go you ideologues, what does that have to do with a disability. Not sure gender dysphoria is a mental health condition or a disability though….. 🤯

Absolutely/Not

SirChenjins · 25/04/2026 18:58

Completed.

Pronouns - I/me/mine.

Ariana12 · 25/04/2026 18:59

DworkinWasRight · 24/04/2026 20:00

Yes, it does. If Janet Murray decides to sue, then I think Scope’s lawyers will advise it to settle pretty quickly. It’s hard to see that they have a defence, given the CEO has publicly admitted that the reason for the cancellation was Janet’s gender-critical beliefs.

I think beginning your trial tenure as CEO by losing a legal case and causing, quite unnecessarily, reputational damage to the organisation, does not bode well for a permanent appointment. But what do I know? Quite possibly the people responsible for making appointments are as crazy as he is.

I really hope Janet and her choir take it further and I'd happily chip in. One issue is whether they were providing services or "volunteering". She would need to get over a decision in the Supreme Court that the Equality Act doesn't apply to volunteers. It was a case involving a volunteer at a CAB who was claiming disability discrimination.

SCOPEismisogynistic · 25/04/2026 19:01

AlexaStopAlexaNo · 25/04/2026 18:55

Absolutely/Not

Its an open text box so I had a wee rant!

Lovelyview · 25/04/2026 19:07

SisterBliss · 25/04/2026 08:54

We’ve had an all staff email about this with links to our employee assistance programme and other wellbeing resourses saying something along the lines of ‘this is may be difficult for colleagues, especially our trans and non binary colleagues’

but not women obviously.

I’m going to flag this to HR on Monday. Also going to request some clarity on the statement about ‘how views are communicated’ and what ‘alienating others’ actually means.

Good luck! Does Scope have a position on disabled women's right to single sex care?

Daisypod · 25/04/2026 19:15

Just seen on Facebook that Scope have backed down and the choir can perform!

SirChenjins · 25/04/2026 19:17

Ariana12 · 25/04/2026 18:59

I really hope Janet and her choir take it further and I'd happily chip in. One issue is whether they were providing services or "volunteering". She would need to get over a decision in the Supreme Court that the Equality Act doesn't apply to volunteers. It was a case involving a volunteer at a CAB who was claiming disability discrimination.

If they are volunteers then as I said in my previous post, surely there's nothing to stop them going along to the marathon, finding a spot somewhere, and singing as a group anyway? Obviously they wouldn't be aligning themselves to Scope - but who would want to after their behaviour.

SirChenjins · 25/04/2026 19:18

Daisypod · 25/04/2026 19:15

Just seen on Facebook that Scope have backed down and the choir can perform!

Oh that's brilliant news! 👏

BusyAzureTraybake · 25/04/2026 19:25

UPDATE: Scope has reversed its decision and reinstated my choir Pleased to say Scope has now reinstated the invitation for my choir to perform at the London Marathon tomorrow. While this is a win, the distress and uncertainty caused by this situation has taken its toll. At present, only one fellow choir member has said they feel comfortable performing tomorrow. Understandably so. In a statement published on their website this evening, they’ve confirmed the choir is not political - and never was. They also acknowledge that my gender-critical beliefs, cited as the reason for dropping us, are lawful -and that those views are mine and separate from the choir as a whole. All of which we knew all along. However, they go on to describe gender-critical views as “highly polarising” and potentially “deeply upsetting and alienating” - language and ideological framing that echoes previous public commentary that presented my lawful, mainstream views as extreme. While this is a win, the distress and uncertainty caused by this situation has taken its toll. At present, only one fellow choir member has said they feel comfortable performing tomorrow. We are now considering our options.

https://x.com/jan_murray/status/2048102448607469894

Janet Murray (@jan_murray) on X

🚨 UPDATE: Scope has reversed its decision and reinstated my choir Pleased to say Scope has now reinstated the invitation for my choir to perform at the London Marathon tomorrow. While this is a win, the distress and uncertainty caused by this situ...

https://x.com/jan_murray/status/2048102448607469894

BusyAzureTraybake · 25/04/2026 19:27

John McLachlan, CEO of Scope said:
“On reflection, we would like to restore our invitation to the Choir to attend the marathon tomorrow and perform for runners if they choose to do so.

“We accept that the choir as a group does not promote a specific viewpoint and that the performance in itself doesn’t undermine our values.

“This decision has been made without prejudice and reflects our appreciation of the right of individuals to hold protected beliefs under the Equality Act 2010.
“Gender-critical views are highly polarising and we are sensitive to the fact that for some of our valued members, supporters and colleagues, gender-critical beliefs may be deeply upsetting and alienating.

“We are here to support anyone who has been affected and we will provide additional support through our supporter care team. We are looking forward to celebrating our runners and supporters at the London Marathon.”

https://www.scope.org.uk/news-and-stories/scope-s-statement-on-choir-performer-decision

London Marathon update | Disability charity Scope UK

An update on the London Marathon has been issued.

https://www.scope.org.uk/news-and-stories/scope-s-statement-on-choir-performer-decision

singthing · 25/04/2026 19:29

Tl;dr for the statement:

"our lawyers handed my arse to me on a plate."

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StillWeRise · 25/04/2026 19:30

no actual apology then

BusyAzureTraybake · 25/04/2026 19:32

singthing · 25/04/2026 19:29

Tl;dr for the statement:

"our lawyers handed my arse to me on a plate."

...and now I've managed to upset absolutely everyone".

Maybe Kezia Dugdale is advising him.

DialSquare · 25/04/2026 19:34

Fucking cowards

SirChenjins · 25/04/2026 19:37

I can almost hear the sound of teeth gritting...

No apology - did anyone expect that from these fools at Scope - but they obviously realised they were facing a legal battle they'd lose. Excellent news.

I've been affected by this as a result of their initial behaviour and will email them now for support . This will be fun.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/04/2026 19:37

Gender-critical views are highly polarising and we are sensitive to the fact that for some of our valued members, supporters and colleagues, gender-critical beliefs may be deeply upsetting and alienating.

Oh fuck off mate.

Transactivist political views are highly polarising but you're not even going to mention that any members, supporters or colleagues, valued or not, may find them deeply upsetting and alienating, particularly the disabled women and girls who do not want to be faced with intimate care from a man who wishes them to pretend he's a woman for his personal gratification. And all she'll have in that situation is the hope that he isn't in the mood the one in the Scots prison was on the day his 'careful risk assessment' turned out to be worthless.

The blame on people who want rights and equality for women and sex based realism for having 'polarising' views, the bias is obvious. This is now a transactivist charity, they need to be absolutely honest with their service users about what this means - BOTH for the men with genders and for women and girls who are service users.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 25/04/2026 19:39

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/04/2026 18:47

Quelle surprise, mention and evidence on nitter that Scope has an ex Stonewall exec. It's the story of the big charities, same pool of people, they just all periodically swap seats and are absolutely unable to handle any actual diversity.

The Charity Commission need to get their act together.

Edited

No surprise there.
Interesting that for a Chief Exec he's completely ignorant of the law, evidently disinterested in free speech and seemingly doubling down in his follow up comments. Surely not fit to lead an organisation if he brings it into disrepute so speedily?

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/04/2026 19:40

I wonder in fact about what advice exactly disabled women and girls are getting from them about their right to a same sex hcp or carer.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 25/04/2026 19:42

MrsOvertonsWindow · 25/04/2026 19:39

No surprise there.
Interesting that for a Chief Exec he's completely ignorant of the law, evidently disinterested in free speech and seemingly doubling down in his follow up comments. Surely not fit to lead an organisation if he brings it into disrepute so speedily?

Hasn't their chief exec been there 38 years in various roles? I doubt he has any thoughts outside the scope bubble and with a trustee who has been and still might be chair of a civil service lgbtq plus network, it's clear that the board are unlikely to suggest to him he's in the wrong

we'll find the lawyers but it's the most pathetic mealy mouthed 'oh ffs I guess we have to let you perform' ever

ScrollingLeaves · 25/04/2026 19:45

DialSquare · 24/04/2026 16:48

Well, they won’t be wanting any donations from anyone who agrees with Janet then will they. Idiots.

Quite.

the move “reflects where we stand as an organisation and our commitment to our colleagues, volunteers and supporters”.

My move, to take donations to charities elsewhere, and to purchase from charities elsewhere, will reflect where I stand as a person and my commitment to the safeguarding of children's minds and bodies; the safeguarding and dignity of women, including disabled women, in sports, prisons, hospitals, changing rooms, jobs etc. And where I stand in regard to enforced non-think; and coercive control form trans activists.

AlexaStopAlexaNo · 25/04/2026 19:59

I hope everyone who has rescinded their donations DO NOT reinstate them. Scope have been made to do this, they haven’t chosen to.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 25/04/2026 20:18

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/04/2026 19:37

Gender-critical views are highly polarising and we are sensitive to the fact that for some of our valued members, supporters and colleagues, gender-critical beliefs may be deeply upsetting and alienating.

Oh fuck off mate.

Transactivist political views are highly polarising but you're not even going to mention that any members, supporters or colleagues, valued or not, may find them deeply upsetting and alienating, particularly the disabled women and girls who do not want to be faced with intimate care from a man who wishes them to pretend he's a woman for his personal gratification. And all she'll have in that situation is the hope that he isn't in the mood the one in the Scots prison was on the day his 'careful risk assessment' turned out to be worthless.

The blame on people who want rights and equality for women and sex based realism for having 'polarising' views, the bias is obvious. This is now a transactivist charity, they need to be absolutely honest with their service users about what this means - BOTH for the men with genders and for women and girls who are service users.

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Just what I've said at home to my cats: fuck off mate. What a prick. Who is their legal firm advising? Would laugh if it was NC or CE.

soupycustard · 25/04/2026 20:26

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/04/2026 19:40

I wonder in fact about what advice exactly disabled women and girls are getting from them about their right to a same sex hcp or carer.

Am no longer on X but there was a very impressive young woman with a disability who used to tweet about the need to feel confident in same sex intimate care. So many people are so ageist as well as ableist that there's often an assumption that 'carer' means a carer for the elderly, and so it was incredibly powerful to have a young woman trying to maintain her independence as well as her dignity. Wish I could remember her twitterX name.

KnottyAuty · 25/04/2026 20:26

I emailed earlier - has anyone sent a follow up since this reversal? Im very tempted to send them another blast - extremist views?!? I’ll given some extremism… I will never go near this charity again