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Scope is punishing women for wrongthink - Whole choir cancelled from London Marathon because of personal GC views of one person

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singthing · 24/04/2026 16:18

Choir dropped from London Marathon over founder’s ‘gender-critical views’
Charity cancels singers who raise runners’ spirits owing to Janet Murray’s opposition to gender ideology

A choir has been dropped from the London Marathon over a member’s gender-critical views.

The Singing Striders are frequently booked to stand on the sidelines and raise the spirits of runners, and the group had been invited to support the upcoming marathon by Scope, a leading disability charity.

However, the amateur ensemble was dropped because a single member had been critical of gender ideology.

This is the view that gender is defined by self-identification, rather than biological sex, meaning that those born male can become women.

Janet Murray, the choir founder, was informed that her opposition to this worldview went against Scope’s “commitment to diversity and inclusion”.

Charity bosses also told her “we are concerned about your views because we don’t agree with your views”.

As a writer and journalist, Murray has publicly expressed concerns about the inclusion of biological males in women’s sports and organisations such as Girlguiding.

It is understood that the decision to cancel the choir, which was to perform for no fee, came after Scope received two anonymous complaints about these opinions.

The charity has since defended its stance as it is “committed to the equality and inclusion of trans and non-binary disabled people”.

Janet Murray, the writer
Murray says it is ironic that Scope should bring politics into a space that was simply about supporting charity runners Credit: Belinda Jiao
Ms Murray told The Telegraph: “When cancel culture finds its way into something as joyful as a choir singing for marathon runners, it’s a sobering reminder of how insidious it can be.

“My choir exists to lift people up, helping them through the hardest moments as they raise money for charity. I’ve run the London Marathon myself, and I know how much that support means.”

The writer said that while she did have gender-critical views, they did not enter into her work with the choir, adding: “I leave politics at home when I’m with the choir – and so does everyone else.

“Ironically, it’s Scope that’s brought politics into a space that was simply about supporting charity runners – effectively silencing a choir in the process.”

The cancellation came despite the Singing Striders performing for Scope at past marathons without incident.

The London Marathon has several “cheer points” along the route to boost the morale of runners, and Scope has two dedicated spaces this year, at Tower Hill and Woolwich

The London Marathon will take place on Sunday
The London Marathon will take place on Sunday Credit: Karwai Tang/WireImage
The Singing Striders were set to raise a chorus at the mile-three cheer point in Woolwich, performing from 8.30am to 1pm, with minor expenses for travel covered by Scope.

The choir had practised for months ahead of the marathon, and members were understood to be surprised and disappointed by the decision, and hopeful that an organisation might come forward to offer them a space at the event on Sunday.

Critics of gender ideology have been subjected to cancellation since the issue of transgender identities emerged into public consciousness, with figures such as Graham Linehan, the Father Ted co-writer, being an early victim of censoriousness.

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In 2024, the debate shifted again when the Cass review cautioned against rushing children into life-changing gender transitions, particularly with the use of potentially harmful puberty blockers.

Scope has defended its decision to cancel the marathon choir, stating that the move “reflects where we stand as an organisation and our commitment to our colleagues, volunteers and supporters”.

John McLachlan, Scope’s chief executive, said: “Concerns were raised to us about the views of the founder and director of Singing Striders, a choir who were due to volunteer to perform for us at the London Marathon. After consideration, we took the decision to not have their choir perform on our behalf.

“We understand and respect the right for people to hold different views about inclusion. At Scope, we are committed to the equality and inclusion of trans and non-binary disabled people. We have trans and non-binary colleagues, volunteers and supporters.

“Scope is committed to equality and inclusion. Our EDI policy sets out our commitment to be an inclusive employer and inclusive charity.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/24/choir-dropped-london-marathon-founder-gender-critical-views/
https://archive.ph/LXP0N

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/24/choir-dropped-london-marathon-founder-gender-critical-views

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 25/04/2026 09:35

BusyAzureTraybake · 25/04/2026 09:17

We’ve had an all staff email about this with links to our employee assistance programme and other wellbeing resourses saying something along the lines of ‘this is may be difficult for colleagues, especially our trans and non binary colleagues’

There does seem to be an awful lot of deliberate riling up of the 'trans community' that goes on in these organisations. Almost as if some of the elite are using the trans community for their own ends.

Yes! There are many ways to manage this type of situation but the default is always "this is obviously terrible and of course trans & NB colleagues will be upset and probably throw massive strops which will upset and stress their line mangers/senior managers/the trustees so we need to placate them very quickly"

nicepotoftea · 25/04/2026 09:38

Dollymylove · 25/04/2026 06:26

Yes you're right. They dont own the streets of London. Are Scope actually sponsoring the London Marathon?

It seems to be a 'cheer point' for Scope. Other charities also have these cheer points. Maybe they provide sound equipment?

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/04/2026 09:43

Theeyeballsinthesky · 25/04/2026 09:35

Yes! There are many ways to manage this type of situation but the default is always "this is obviously terrible and of course trans & NB colleagues will be upset and probably throw massive strops which will upset and stress their line mangers/senior managers/the trustees so we need to placate them very quickly"

Of course. It's intentionally cueing anyone TQ that they are now expected to perform collapsing in an infantilised heap, and that everyone else - particularly any colleagues who thought women had needs, rights and feelings too - as to what they now are expected to say and do.

AngleofRepose · 25/04/2026 09:48

singthing · 25/04/2026 08:43

From the BBC article (my bold):

London marathon event director Hugh Brasher said he didn't know about Murray's specific case, but said "the London Marathon is incredibly protective of women's rights, and we do that through the elite event".
He added: "When it comes to the mass, we are as inclusive as we can be and therefore we try and get that mix right."
The London Marathon does not allow transwomen to compete in elite, championship and 'good for age' female races, in accordance with World Athletics guidelines introduced in 2023.
Transwomen are able to compete in the mass participation event and can self-select which sex category they want to compete under on the ballot.

So unless you are one of the ~3600 elite/championship/good for age women running, you can get fucked.
(In 2025 there were almost 25,000 women in the general category)

I suspect Brasher is yet another one of those men who deliberately didn't ask questions so he can now say he "didn't know". Sick of them.

I suspect Brasher is yet another one of those men who deliberately didn't ask questions so he can now say he "didn't know".

Yes, you're right. I've noticed that it's a thing they do, isn't it. Plausible deniability.

TWETMIRF · 25/04/2026 09:50

I'm sure the nasty, non compliant women in the choir were planning to sing 'If a person has a penis he's a man' and that's the issue. It can't be a ban for no reason, right?

#InclusionMeansExcludingWomen

flapjackfairy · 25/04/2026 09:57

I have just emailed to tell them why my direct debit is stopped and guess what I am blocked and the email.wont deliver .
anyone else? or is it a technical glich

flapjackfairy · 25/04/2026 09:59

screen shot attached. I think I had the right email address ?

Scope is punishing women for wrongthink - Whole choir cancelled from London Marathon because of personal GC views of one person
BusyAzureTraybake · 25/04/2026 10:04

flapjackfairy · 25/04/2026 09:59

screen shot attached. I think I had the right email address ?

I think you have an extra 's' in there.
It's: [email protected]

flapjackfairy · 25/04/2026 10:06

BusyAzureTraybake · 25/04/2026 10:04

I think you have an extra 's' in there.
It's: [email protected]

Ah thank-you. Will resend

BusyAzureTraybake · 25/04/2026 10:09

Nick Wallis:
It’s really weird to see a disability charity openly admit they are practising unlawful discrimination simply because… they want to be spiteful? Nice one
@scope. Keep thinking you’re the good guys.

https://x.com/nickwallis/status/2047929515821666503

Nick Wallis (@nickwallis) on X

It’s really weird to see a disability charity openly admit they are practising unlawful discrimination simply because… they want to be spiteful? Nice one @scope. Keep thinking you’re the good guys. https://t.co/rFgBun9Jqw

https://x.com/nickwallis/status/2047929515821666503

99bottlesofkombucha · 25/04/2026 10:11

AngleofRepose · 24/04/2026 22:50

Except that that part of the ruling (from Forstater, I think) relates to bullying and harassment, not "alienating others." I'm not sure how you would prove to a court that someone had been trying to "alienate " you. I think they need better lawyers!

Edited

It can be very hard for the lawyers to keep up with the ideologues…

99bottlesofkombucha · 25/04/2026 10:12

TWETMIRF · 25/04/2026 09:50

I'm sure the nasty, non compliant women in the choir were planning to sing 'If a person has a penis he's a man' and that's the issue. It can't be a ban for no reason, right?

#InclusionMeansExcludingWomen

Maybe they were planning to accompany themselves by playing the piano with their penises! Oh no that was a trans woman, on a stage celebrating their femininity.

EmpressaurusKitty · 25/04/2026 10:12

This is the link to the Scope complaints form. Ignore the pronouns question if you want, it’s optimal as are most of the contact details ones. I just gave my email.

customervoice.microsoft.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=mwSAniP3x02vC_dI_FgrliYUdJVwzFZCjgfYX89AxmtUNFpFQ1hVVlBFRlNXUDdFNEo5VklYVlQ5Vi4u

spannasaurus · 25/04/2026 10:16

One of the replies to Nick's post pointed to Scope's EDI page which lists the PCs ' for religion/belief it says

Religion or belief (including no region or belief). Any expression of religious or philosophical beliefs must be in line with Scope’s policies and values.

So do they think the EA only gives protection for beliefs if they align with the employers/service providers beliefs

StrongPoison · 25/04/2026 10:19

ArtShow · 24/04/2026 18:02

That's why I only donate to sex matters and the crowd funders I see on here

Yes, my giving has changed this way too, I also support Transgender Trend, Lumos (JKR) and Amar Foundation (Baroness N). I take the view that others are captured unless they demonstrate otherwise.

99bottlesofkombucha · 25/04/2026 10:21

spannasaurus · 25/04/2026 10:16

One of the replies to Nick's post pointed to Scope's EDI page which lists the PCs ' for religion/belief it says

Religion or belief (including no region or belief). Any expression of religious or philosophical beliefs must be in line with Scope’s policies and values.

So do they think the EA only gives protection for beliefs if they align with the employers/service providers beliefs

That’s … a little bit at odds with this statement then! And illegal of course…

Scope is punishing women for wrongthink - Whole choir cancelled from London Marathon because of personal GC views of one person
NotMyRealAccount · 25/04/2026 10:24

TWETMIRF · 25/04/2026 09:50

I'm sure the nasty, non compliant women in the choir were planning to sing 'If a person has a penis he's a man' and that's the issue. It can't be a ban for no reason, right?

#InclusionMeansExcludingWomen

As a marathon participant, I'm now contemplating getting across to the side of the road at the Scope support points and belting out a tuneless rendition of, "If a person has a penis he's a man." But the likelihood of being able to pick them out among the crowds is small.

singthing · 25/04/2026 10:27

BusyAzureTraybake · 25/04/2026 10:09

Nick Wallis:
It’s really weird to see a disability charity openly admit they are practising unlawful discrimination simply because… they want to be spiteful? Nice one
@scope. Keep thinking you’re the good guys.

https://x.com/nickwallis/status/2047929515821666503

This reply tweet made me laugh

"I wonder if they support people who say they are trans disabled."

Scope want to hang their petard, then may they also be hung by it.

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SCOPEismisogynistic · 25/04/2026 10:28

Name changed as email was linked to
my IRL name

Dear Scope,

FAO Interim CEO and Board

I am a disability advocate with significant experience in front line work as a carer for adults with autism in a residential setting and other employment, running a key department for a disabled Charity and now as a parent for a child with a significant disability.

Your stance taken today to exclude a choir because one person has sex realist views is shocking - when one considers the implication.

If a parent requests same sex care for their disabled child due to safeguarding concerns would Scope have more regard for the feelings of trans identified colleagues or non-binary people rather than the legal and legitimate rights of the child. Would I be excluded from services because I would object to a biological male who asserts a trans identity providing intimate care to my vulnerable child? I hold sex realistic views - do you not want my financial support or me as a service user.

Non binary is not a protected status in law. Gender recognition has status in some limited circumstances. Sex based rights and disabled rights are protected in law.

Your board and interim CEO would do well to consider the rights of women and children to single sex spaces and single sex care. Those experiencing gender dysphoria require support and care - but you are a charity focused on the rights of those with disabilities. Your priority is to your charitable aims and your service users.

I went on but fuck these misogynists. Taking women’s money and then pissing all over them.

MarieDeGournay · 25/04/2026 10:40

Very well said SCOPEismisogynistic!

I think there's an important role for detailed, well-argued complaints like yours, but also for more succinct emails about how Scope is insultingly - and arguably illegally - dismissive of women, and is losing support as a result, and has shown itself to be spiteful, small-minded and petty.

It probably wouldn't be a great look to sue a charity like Scope. We've looked under the bonnet, and know what's in there, but the general public probably just think it's one of those admirable organisations who help those poor disabled folk, bless..

Publicly dismantling their facade of 'inclusivity' might be a better option - Nick Wallis is doing a good job so far!

socialdilemmawhattodo · 25/04/2026 10:42

bonfireoftheverities · 25/04/2026 07:39

Normally I have a massive issue with drag - can't bear it. But that was a very personal story and very relevant to the charity and the support it has given that family. So seems OK in that context.

BusyAzureTraybake · 25/04/2026 10:53

socialdilemmawhattodo · 25/04/2026 10:42

Normally I have a massive issue with drag - can't bear it. But that was a very personal story and very relevant to the charity and the support it has given that family. So seems OK in that context.

I agree. Though I do look at drag now and just see 'womanface'.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 25/04/2026 10:54

SisterBliss · 25/04/2026 08:54

We’ve had an all staff email about this with links to our employee assistance programme and other wellbeing resourses saying something along the lines of ‘this is may be difficult for colleagues, especially our trans and non binary colleagues’

but not women obviously.

I’m going to flag this to HR on Monday. Also going to request some clarity on the statement about ‘how views are communicated’ and what ‘alienating others’ actually means.

Please do if you feel able to. The choir singers have given up a lot of their time to support Scope, this year and in the past and to cancel at such short notice is spiteful. Is the choir female only - sorry can't remember

Pyjamatimenow · 25/04/2026 10:56

BusyAzureTraybake · 25/04/2026 08:39

The article is on the Sport's page. Try this:

https://archive.ph/K0yCR

Thank you

AlexaStopAlexaNo · 25/04/2026 10:57

socialdilemmawhattodo · 25/04/2026 10:42

Normally I have a massive issue with drag - can't bear it. But that was a very personal story and very relevant to the charity and the support it has given that family. So seems OK in that context.

I agree, and charities often choose high profile or affluent runners for events like this, because of the sheer amounts they’re likely to raise.

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