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Scope is punishing women for wrongthink - Whole choir cancelled from London Marathon because of personal GC views of one person

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singthing · Yesterday 16:18

Choir dropped from London Marathon over founder’s ‘gender-critical views’
Charity cancels singers who raise runners’ spirits owing to Janet Murray’s opposition to gender ideology

A choir has been dropped from the London Marathon over a member’s gender-critical views.

The Singing Striders are frequently booked to stand on the sidelines and raise the spirits of runners, and the group had been invited to support the upcoming marathon by Scope, a leading disability charity.

However, the amateur ensemble was dropped because a single member had been critical of gender ideology.

This is the view that gender is defined by self-identification, rather than biological sex, meaning that those born male can become women.

Janet Murray, the choir founder, was informed that her opposition to this worldview went against Scope’s “commitment to diversity and inclusion”.

Charity bosses also told her “we are concerned about your views because we don’t agree with your views”.

As a writer and journalist, Murray has publicly expressed concerns about the inclusion of biological males in women’s sports and organisations such as Girlguiding.

It is understood that the decision to cancel the choir, which was to perform for no fee, came after Scope received two anonymous complaints about these opinions.

The charity has since defended its stance as it is “committed to the equality and inclusion of trans and non-binary disabled people”.

Janet Murray, the writer
Murray says it is ironic that Scope should bring politics into a space that was simply about supporting charity runners Credit: Belinda Jiao
Ms Murray told The Telegraph: “When cancel culture finds its way into something as joyful as a choir singing for marathon runners, it’s a sobering reminder of how insidious it can be.

“My choir exists to lift people up, helping them through the hardest moments as they raise money for charity. I’ve run the London Marathon myself, and I know how much that support means.”

The writer said that while she did have gender-critical views, they did not enter into her work with the choir, adding: “I leave politics at home when I’m with the choir – and so does everyone else.

“Ironically, it’s Scope that’s brought politics into a space that was simply about supporting charity runners – effectively silencing a choir in the process.”

The cancellation came despite the Singing Striders performing for Scope at past marathons without incident.

The London Marathon has several “cheer points” along the route to boost the morale of runners, and Scope has two dedicated spaces this year, at Tower Hill and Woolwich

The London Marathon will take place on Sunday
The London Marathon will take place on Sunday Credit: Karwai Tang/WireImage
The Singing Striders were set to raise a chorus at the mile-three cheer point in Woolwich, performing from 8.30am to 1pm, with minor expenses for travel covered by Scope.

The choir had practised for months ahead of the marathon, and members were understood to be surprised and disappointed by the decision, and hopeful that an organisation might come forward to offer them a space at the event on Sunday.

Critics of gender ideology have been subjected to cancellation since the issue of transgender identities emerged into public consciousness, with figures such as Graham Linehan, the Father Ted co-writer, being an early victim of censoriousness.

Graham Linehan on the trans debate and new Father Ted material
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In 2024, the debate shifted again when the Cass review cautioned against rushing children into life-changing gender transitions, particularly with the use of potentially harmful puberty blockers.

Scope has defended its decision to cancel the marathon choir, stating that the move “reflects where we stand as an organisation and our commitment to our colleagues, volunteers and supporters”.

John McLachlan, Scope’s chief executive, said: “Concerns were raised to us about the views of the founder and director of Singing Striders, a choir who were due to volunteer to perform for us at the London Marathon. After consideration, we took the decision to not have their choir perform on our behalf.

“We understand and respect the right for people to hold different views about inclusion. At Scope, we are committed to the equality and inclusion of trans and non-binary disabled people. We have trans and non-binary colleagues, volunteers and supporters.

“Scope is committed to equality and inclusion. Our EDI policy sets out our commitment to be an inclusive employer and inclusive charity.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/24/choir-dropped-london-marathon-founder-gender-critical-views/
https://archive.ph/LXP0N

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/24/choir-dropped-london-marathon-founder-gender-critical-views

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Dollymylove · Yesterday 20:46

Another one bites the dust. One more reason why I only support small local volunteer-led charities

AngleofRepose · Yesterday 21:11

Dollymylove · Yesterday 20:46

Another one bites the dust. One more reason why I only support small local volunteer-led charities

Me, too, as much as I can. In fact, I've gone over almost completely to animal charities now. A few of them are RSOH types, but they clearly know who's male and female in the animal kingdom, so as long as they manage their accounts properly and have regular inspections, I let them get on with it!

WydeStrype · Yesterday 21:21

I'm so so shocked by this.

How can they even think of justifying their actions with 'trans and non binary colleagues 'etc whilst missing the much larger demographic of women they serve

AllSlugsAreBastards · Yesterday 21:57

I'm always astounded at how the feelings of Trans and NBs always seem to trump women's feelings. They remind me if small children who don't think that the adults around them are fully human or have real feelings which can be hurt.

This is very unprofessional of Scope and I suspect they didn't actually speak to any lawyers before doing this, at least I hope not!

AreYouSureAskedNaomi · Yesterday 22:02

This is a poor decision and, in terms of PR, a bad look for Scope

Dollymylove · Yesterday 22:09

Just two ANONYMOUS complaints!! Did they not even contemplate that someone might have just been trying to troll them?
Can't believe a well known national charity would kowtow to people who didn't even reveal their names?
They really havent made themselves look very good have they!!

AlexaStopAlexaNo · Yesterday 22:15

I bet their comms people are SWEATING…

AngleofRepose · Yesterday 22:31

How predictable:

'Scope chief executive John McLachlan, in a statement to the BBC, said: "We understand and respect the right for people to hold differing views about gender and inclusion.
"However, the way these views are communicated matters, especially when they alienate others.'

Translation: "Sure, you can hold a different view to what we know is right, but you can't talk about it, or, if you do talk about it, you have to say it in a nice, kind way that really means you agree with us."

This is all they've got now.

WydeStrype · Yesterday 22:32

Stonewall have been approached for comment....

Why not Sex Matters? Or WRN? Or Fairplay for Women?

Obviously Stonewall would scream 'Burn the Witch'

Pyjamatimenow · Yesterday 22:33

This is awful. Makes me so angry. There’s a link on Janet’s Facebook page to support her work

BusyAzureTraybake · Yesterday 22:34

AngleofRepose · Yesterday 22:31

How predictable:

'Scope chief executive John McLachlan, in a statement to the BBC, said: "We understand and respect the right for people to hold differing views about gender and inclusion.
"However, the way these views are communicated matters, especially when they alienate others.'

Translation: "Sure, you can hold a different view to what we know is right, but you can't talk about it, or, if you do talk about it, you have to say it in a nice, kind way that really means you agree with us."

This is all they've got now.

The Bananarama defence

AngleofRepose · Yesterday 22:34

WydeStrype · Yesterday 22:32

Stonewall have been approached for comment....

Why not Sex Matters? Or WRN? Or Fairplay for Women?

Obviously Stonewall would scream 'Burn the Witch'

Well, this will be interesting, given the screeching U-turn Kezia Dugdale has had to do on her recent comments about JKR!

I wait with bated breath (and popcorn). C'mon, Kezia, whatcha gonna say this time? (you might want to consult with your overlords first)

flapjackfairy · Yesterday 22:42

How can they stop them turning up.and singing if they want to.anyway. It's not like they could arrest them.

BusyAzureTraybake · Yesterday 22:42

AngleofRepose · Yesterday 22:31

How predictable:

'Scope chief executive John McLachlan, in a statement to the BBC, said: "We understand and respect the right for people to hold differing views about gender and inclusion.
"However, the way these views are communicated matters, especially when they alienate others.'

Translation: "Sure, you can hold a different view to what we know is right, but you can't talk about it, or, if you do talk about it, you have to say it in a nice, kind way that really means you agree with us."

This is all they've got now.

"However, the way these views are communicated matters, especially when they alienate others.

This weasely sentence seems to have been added between the CEO's Telegraph statement and the one given to the BBC. A little word from the Charity's lawyers perhaps?

onepostwonder · Yesterday 22:43

BusyAzureTraybake · Yesterday 22:34

The Bananarama defence

After seeing this phrase repeated numerous times, I just understood it. Lol. I don't agree with its application here, but it's good. Well done.

AngleofRepose · Yesterday 22:47

Our overseas visitor has arrived right on time to derail the thread. All hail the disrupting male!

Bertiebiscuit · Yesterday 22:47

I've been supporting Scope's charity shops for years, not any more now though. Disgraceful behaviour, as always "inclusion" means excluding actual women. Shocking.

Gwenna · Yesterday 22:49

singthing · Yesterday 16:18

Choir dropped from London Marathon over founder’s ‘gender-critical views’
Charity cancels singers who raise runners’ spirits owing to Janet Murray’s opposition to gender ideology

A choir has been dropped from the London Marathon over a member’s gender-critical views.

The Singing Striders are frequently booked to stand on the sidelines and raise the spirits of runners, and the group had been invited to support the upcoming marathon by Scope, a leading disability charity.

However, the amateur ensemble was dropped because a single member had been critical of gender ideology.

This is the view that gender is defined by self-identification, rather than biological sex, meaning that those born male can become women.

Janet Murray, the choir founder, was informed that her opposition to this worldview went against Scope’s “commitment to diversity and inclusion”.

Charity bosses also told her “we are concerned about your views because we don’t agree with your views”.

As a writer and journalist, Murray has publicly expressed concerns about the inclusion of biological males in women’s sports and organisations such as Girlguiding.

It is understood that the decision to cancel the choir, which was to perform for no fee, came after Scope received two anonymous complaints about these opinions.

The charity has since defended its stance as it is “committed to the equality and inclusion of trans and non-binary disabled people”.

Janet Murray, the writer
Murray says it is ironic that Scope should bring politics into a space that was simply about supporting charity runners Credit: Belinda Jiao
Ms Murray told The Telegraph: “When cancel culture finds its way into something as joyful as a choir singing for marathon runners, it’s a sobering reminder of how insidious it can be.

“My choir exists to lift people up, helping them through the hardest moments as they raise money for charity. I’ve run the London Marathon myself, and I know how much that support means.”

The writer said that while she did have gender-critical views, they did not enter into her work with the choir, adding: “I leave politics at home when I’m with the choir – and so does everyone else.

“Ironically, it’s Scope that’s brought politics into a space that was simply about supporting charity runners – effectively silencing a choir in the process.”

The cancellation came despite the Singing Striders performing for Scope at past marathons without incident.

The London Marathon has several “cheer points” along the route to boost the morale of runners, and Scope has two dedicated spaces this year, at Tower Hill and Woolwich

The London Marathon will take place on Sunday
The London Marathon will take place on Sunday Credit: Karwai Tang/WireImage
The Singing Striders were set to raise a chorus at the mile-three cheer point in Woolwich, performing from 8.30am to 1pm, with minor expenses for travel covered by Scope.

The choir had practised for months ahead of the marathon, and members were understood to be surprised and disappointed by the decision, and hopeful that an organisation might come forward to offer them a space at the event on Sunday.

Critics of gender ideology have been subjected to cancellation since the issue of transgender identities emerged into public consciousness, with figures such as Graham Linehan, the Father Ted co-writer, being an early victim of censoriousness.

Graham Linehan on the trans debate and new Father Ted material
Read more
In 2024, the debate shifted again when the Cass review cautioned against rushing children into life-changing gender transitions, particularly with the use of potentially harmful puberty blockers.

Scope has defended its decision to cancel the marathon choir, stating that the move “reflects where we stand as an organisation and our commitment to our colleagues, volunteers and supporters”.

John McLachlan, Scope’s chief executive, said: “Concerns were raised to us about the views of the founder and director of Singing Striders, a choir who were due to volunteer to perform for us at the London Marathon. After consideration, we took the decision to not have their choir perform on our behalf.

“We understand and respect the right for people to hold different views about inclusion. At Scope, we are committed to the equality and inclusion of trans and non-binary disabled people. We have trans and non-binary colleagues, volunteers and supporters.

“Scope is committed to equality and inclusion. Our EDI policy sets out our commitment to be an inclusive employer and inclusive charity.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/24/choir-dropped-london-marathon-founder-gender-critical-views/
https://archive.ph/LXP0N

Utterly ridiculous of them to cancel her. The future won’t be kind to this mindless period in our history.

AngleofRepose · Yesterday 22:50

BusyAzureTraybake · Yesterday 22:42

"However, the way these views are communicated matters, especially when they alienate others.

This weasely sentence seems to have been added between the CEO's Telegraph statement and the one given to the BBC. A little word from the Charity's lawyers perhaps?

Except that that part of the ruling (from Forstater, I think) relates to bullying and harassment, not "alienating others." I'm not sure how you would prove to a court that someone had been trying to "alienate " you. I think they need better lawyers!

BusyAzureTraybake · Yesterday 22:55

AngleofRepose · Yesterday 22:50

Except that that part of the ruling (from Forstater, I think) relates to bullying and harassment, not "alienating others." I'm not sure how you would prove to a court that someone had been trying to "alienate " you. I think they need better lawyers!

Edited

Well quite. The CEO's action has alienated me.

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