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Phillipson criticised over women’s rights stance in sex and gender debate

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impossibletoday · 11/04/2026 21:29

Phillipson accused of putting career ahead of women’s rights in trans war

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/bb0dee47182826e1

Phillipson accused of putting career ahead of women’s rights in trans war

Baroness Falkner says women and equalities minister blocking single-sex spaces guidance for fear of ‘alienating activist MPs’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/bb0dee47182826e1

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Freysimo · 14/04/2026 09:15

Labour have now had over a year to implement the very clear ruling. They don't want to. Yet again my mind boggles at how a very small percentage of people (trans gender) have managed to get their ideology taken seriously and got so many on board with the madness. It's like The Emperor's New Clothes.

fromorbit · 14/04/2026 09:27

Important note.

Scottish Labour have openly broken with Westminster on this see their manifesto which commits to supporting biological sex multiple times in forthright language. Sarwar said in the press conference launch that he was supporting the result of the Supreme Court verdict. Thread here:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5516606-scottish-labour-manifesto-commits-to-single-sex-spaces

This makes Phillipson look ridiculous. Also bear in mind the Home Secretary is very firmly in the women exist camp. The biology is real group is too powerful for the TAs to get much of what they want.

I think Phillipson is trying to hedge and find a non existent middle way because Labour has a lot of TA fanatics who can't admit they were wrong. It is the same thing facing Wes Streeting who just published in Pink News saying how much he loved trans kids and got loads more hate.

A chunk of Labour want to be nice. That ship has sailed.

I suspect Philipson is waiting till after the May elections to drop the news. I think it might be some kind of absurd mishmash which will say biology is real, but also use mixed up language or something.

Scottish Labour Manifesto - Commits to Single Sex spaces | Mumsnet

While Bridget Philipson seems confused about the Supreme Court judgement Scottish Labour seem to have very different ideas. Anas Sarwar at the manifes...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5516606-scottish-labour-manifesto-commits-to-single-sex-spaces

DameProfessorIDareSay · 14/04/2026 09:39

Statement at 12.30 allegedly...

https://x.com/RosieDuffield1/status/2043969903460327711?s=20

"And lo, a local election miracle came to pass, and all of the imagined, self-imposed and fear-based excuses for the last year of delay dissolved like mist made of empty political spin to reveal a Statement in the House on the ERHC guidance Hallelujah"

Rosie Duffield MP (@RosieDuffield1) on X

And lo, a local election miracle came to pass, and all of the imagined, self-imposed and fear-based excuses for the last year of delay dissolved like mist made of empty political spin to reveal a Statement in the House on the ERHC guidance ✨️✨️✨️ Ha...

https://x.com/RosieDuffield1/status/2043969903460327711?s=20

DameProfessorIDareSay · 14/04/2026 09:39

Statement at 12.30 allegedly...

https://x.com/RosieDuffield1/status/2043969903460327711?s=20

"And lo, a local election miracle came to pass, and all of the imagined, self-imposed and fear-based excuses for the last year of delay dissolved like mist made of empty political spin to reveal a Statement in the House on the ERHC guidance Hallelujah"

Rosie Duffield MP (@RosieDuffield1) on X

And lo, a local election miracle came to pass, and all of the imagined, self-imposed and fear-based excuses for the last year of delay dissolved like mist made of empty political spin to reveal a Statement in the House on the ERHC guidance ✨️✨️✨️ Ha...

https://x.com/RosieDuffield1/status/2043969903460327711?s=20

borntobequiet · 14/04/2026 09:47

Ooh, I hope that doorsteps have been ringing with the voices of indignant women giving chastened Labour canvassers the what-for on account of the delayed guidance.

teawamutu · 14/04/2026 10:29

At 12.30, are we going to find out if Labour are more frit of the Greens or Reform?

DameProfessorIDareSay · 14/04/2026 10:53

Apparently it will be a written statement so I’m expecting another round of ‘this is very important to get right’ as they fail to read and digest 11 fucking pages 😡

lcakethereforeIam · 14/04/2026 10:59

There's no way Phillipson is sitting on this without Starmer being okay with the delay. He either agrees with what the real reason is (twaw mps, twaw unions, twaw themselves?) or he's too frit/spineless to disagree with her.

Iamnotalemming · 14/04/2026 12:40

Any update on the public statement? I can't find anything but may not be looking in the right places.

DameProfessorIDareSay · 14/04/2026 12:59

Iamnotalemming · 14/04/2026 12:40

Any update on the public statement? I can't find anything but may not be looking in the right places.

https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-statements/detail/2026-04-14/hcws1509

Iamnotalemming · 14/04/2026 14:20

Thank you @DameProfessorIDareSay
I have seen a press release from the EHRC since as well. MAS says "The UK government recently provided us with a narrow set of comments on the draft Code of Practice we submitted in September". So EHRC keen to clarify that BP has indeed beem sat on it for months, and they turned around her comments quickly.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 14/04/2026 14:44

So if I'm reading it right she's finally going to do it, in May after the elections, but she's going to do it. Right?

"We are getting it right, showing leadership by implementing the clarity the Supreme Court ruling delivers."

There's that bullshit leadership thing again. 🤬

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 14/04/2026 19:17

Well she's identifying as going to do it after May. Let's put it that way.

That's the current excuse, and at least they're retiring the staggering zombie of 'we're thinking about our careers and best interests all 11 pages of it very carefully'.

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/04/2026 08:07

It will be instructive to make a note of who votes against the updated guidance when it comes to pass later in the year.

DameProfessorIDareSay · 15/04/2026 09:05

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/04/2026 08:07

It will be instructive to make a note of who votes against the updated guidance when it comes to pass later in the year.

Edited

The guidance is simply laid before parliament for 40 days and then becomes statutory. There is no vote, though no doubt there will be pressure to hold one (even though it will not be binding) to enable some grandstanding by the usual mob.

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/04/2026 09:56

DameProfessorIDareSay · 15/04/2026 09:05

The guidance is simply laid before parliament for 40 days and then becomes statutory. There is no vote, though no doubt there will be pressure to hold one (even though it will not be binding) to enable some grandstanding by the usual mob.

Well, that's good news if it is the case.

SwirlyGates · 15/04/2026 10:43

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/04/2026 08:07

It will be instructive to make a note of who votes against the updated guidance when it comes to pass later in the year.

Edited

Too late for us to vote them out by then, though!

JanesLittleGirl · 15/04/2026 12:04

DameProfessorIDareSay · 15/04/2026 09:05

The guidance is simply laid before parliament for 40 days and then becomes statutory. There is no vote, though no doubt there will be pressure to hold one (even though it will not be binding) to enable some grandstanding by the usual mob.

That's not quite the case. The guidance is laid before both Houses for 40 days and is then approved unless there is a majority vote in favour of a motion of disapproval in either House.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 15/04/2026 12:18

JanesLittleGirl · 15/04/2026 12:04

That's not quite the case. The guidance is laid before both Houses for 40 days and is then approved unless there is a majority vote in favour of a motion of disapproval in either House.

Phillipson has approved the guidance & committed to laying it before parliament next month.

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/04/2026 12:37

JanesLittleGirl · 15/04/2026 12:04

That's not quite the case. The guidance is laid before both Houses for 40 days and is then approved unless there is a majority vote in favour of a motion of disapproval in either House.

That is what I suspected. Given Labour's large majority, we'd have to hope that enough Labour MPs see sense and don't vote to dismiss it. Should there be such a vote, then we do need to take an invenory of which MPs reject the guidance. Inevitably there will be Lib Dems, Greens and SNP MPs who would also vote to dismiss.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 15/04/2026 12:55

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/04/2026 12:37

That is what I suspected. Given Labour's large majority, we'd have to hope that enough Labour MPs see sense and don't vote to dismiss it. Should there be such a vote, then we do need to take an invenory of which MPs reject the guidance. Inevitably there will be Lib Dems, Greens and SNP MPs who would also vote to dismiss.

Edited

Don't assume that parliamentary time would automatically be given over to a debate & vote. I don't know if there has ever been a parliamentary vote on the guidance previously as it's normally just accepted by the Secretary of State & laid before parliament for 40 days.

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/04/2026 13:06

PrettyDamnCosmic · 15/04/2026 12:55

Don't assume that parliamentary time would automatically be given over to a debate & vote. I don't know if there has ever been a parliamentary vote on the guidance previously as it's normally just accepted by the Secretary of State & laid before parliament for 40 days.

What does " being laid before parliament" imply.....what is involved?

DameProfessorIDareSay · 15/04/2026 13:07

PrettyDamnCosmic · 15/04/2026 12:55

Don't assume that parliamentary time would automatically be given over to a debate & vote. I don't know if there has ever been a parliamentary vote on the guidance previously as it's normally just accepted by the Secretary of State & laid before parliament for 40 days.

Agreed, the wording in my previous post was poor.
There is no ‘automatic’ vote, it would need a member of the Lords or the Commons to propose a ‘resolution to disapprove’ and parliamentary time would need to be allocated for a debate and a vote. This would all need to happen within the 40 days.
I think it is unlikely parliamentary time would be given, but with this shower in charge who knows?

DameProfessorIDareSay · 15/04/2026 13:11

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/04/2026 13:06

What does " being laid before parliament" imply.....what is involved?

Edited

It’s basically the delivery of a hard copy (or multiple copies) of a document to a specific office at a specific time:

https://erskinemay.parliament.uk/section/5623/laying-before-parliament/

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/04/2026 13:17

DameProfessorIDareSay · 15/04/2026 13:11

It’s basically the delivery of a hard copy (or multiple copies) of a document to a specific office at a specific time:

https://erskinemay.parliament.uk/section/5623/laying-before-parliament/

So, no big speeches or Commons presentation.